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Death in the air
The New York Post ^ | March 20, 2005 | By MURRAY WEISS and CYNTHIA R. FAGEN

Posted on 03/20/2005 5:20:30 AM PST by KeyLargo

New York Post

DEATH IN THE AIR

By MURRAY WEISS and CYNTHIA R. FAGEN

A Brooklyn man who went berserk aboard a JFK-bound airliner died Friday night after being handcuffed and held down by seven athletes who had come to the aid of the flight crew.

William Lee, 48, got out of hand aboard American Airlines Flight 4 from Los Angeles after flight attendants told him he couldn't have any more booze, airline spokesman Tim Smith told The Post.

Lee, who had told the Boeing 767 cabin crew he was despondent over a breakup with his girlfriend, was declared dead at Jamaica Hospital shortly after Flight 4 requested a priority landing at JFK at 8:33 p.m., federal authorities said.

Lee, a frequent flier who worked in the clothing industry, was seated in row 35.

"He'd had a couple of beers and a vodka during the five-hour flight, which is not an issue," said American Airlines spokesman Tim Smith.

Then in the last hour of the flight, "He stood up and demanded a beer. They said to sit down and they would be there shortly. That's when he flew off the handle. That was the fuse," Smith said.

"He got very belligerent and pretty excited and was pretty abusive. He said, 'This isn't right. You should be serving me.' "

Lee "pushed an attendant out of the way" and "was in a rage in an effort to get past her," Smith said.

"Seven male passengers saw this. I think she felt threatened by him."

Transportation Safety Administration spokeswoman Ann Davis said Lee was trying to force his way to the cockpit.

The seven passengers, believed to be members of an international rugby team, held Lee down, and he was restrained with plastic cuffs.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airline; airrage; alcohol; demonrum; etoh; johnbarleycorn; passenger; tsa
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Well, there go Mr Lee's frequent flyer miles.

"Transportation Safety Administration spokeswoman Ann Davis said Lee was trying to force his way to the cockpit."

Mr. Lee's sister said, "I can't believe how uncaring the airline is." --------------------------------- Rugby fans take their game seriously.

A man had a ticket for the Rugby World Cup Final but was seated in the upper, nosebleed seats. As the match begins, he notices an empty seat down near the pitch on the midfield line. Taking a chance, he makes his way down to the empty seat and asks the man next to it if anyone is sitting there.

"No", says the seated man," That seat is empty." "This is incredible," says the other man. "Who in their right mind would have a seat like this for the World Cup Final, the biggest sporting event in the world, and not use it?"

The seated man says "Well, actually, the seat belongs to me. I was supposed to come with my wife, but she passed away. This is the first Rugby Final we haven't been to together since we got married in 1987". "Oh ... I'm sorry to hear that. That's terrible. But couldn't you find someone else - a friend or relative, or even a neighbour to take the seat?".

The seated man shakes his head. "No. They're all at the funeral."

1 posted on 03/20/2005 5:20:32 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Rule #1: Know when there's a Rugby Team on your flight.


2 posted on 03/20/2005 5:24:57 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: KeyLargo
The seven passengers, believed to be members of an international rugby team....

Very bad luck for Mr. Lee.

3 posted on 03/20/2005 5:27:36 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: KeyLargo
I had a berserk incident happen on a flight from London to Dulles. Same type of thing - We (Four of us) had to restrain a passenger who had punched a Flight Attendant. The flight, a 747-400, had no restraints and, as far as I could tell and from what the Captain and the FBI told me, no means of controlling the situation. They required four of us to get the guy down and tied up.

It is ultimately still up to the Passengers unless the pilot is armed IMO.

4 posted on 03/20/2005 5:30:30 AM PST by drt1
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To: leadpenny

Rule #2: There are limits on alchohol served to passengers. Bring your own six-pack.


5 posted on 03/20/2005 5:30:40 AM PST by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: leadpenny
I had an experience with a Rugby player in a ER who went beserk. It took 18 hard cops to hold that guy down. They must be strong as oxen. He actually broke thru leather restraints, I have never seen that in 40 years. But when he settled, he was the sweetest kid.
6 posted on 03/20/2005 5:33:04 AM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: KeyLargo

There should be some basic common sense survival tips given to people. One of the obvious ones would be, don't have a melt down on a airplane.


7 posted on 03/20/2005 5:33:35 AM PST by dog breath
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To: theDentist

Mr Lee says from the afterlife:
Rule#1: Don't be a lil beotch like me, payback IS a beotch when the passengers get fed up! !! ! ! !


8 posted on 03/20/2005 5:36:08 AM PST by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: KeyLargo
"he was despondent over a breakup with his girlfriend"

Further in the story, it states that his wife claimed he was not a big drinker. Perhaps Mrs. Lee was unaware of other things too.

9 posted on 03/20/2005 5:38:52 AM PST by verity (The Liberal Media and the ACLU are America's Enemies)
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Lee, who had told the Boeing 767 cabin crew he was despondent over a breakup with his girlfriend

"He was never a big drinker," Lee's wife, Meena, told The Post about her church going husband. "He was never violent. That's the reason I don't believe it."

His stunned family said no one from the airline has contacted them

Alrighty then.. Let's see, it mentions a bust up with his girlfriend, yet it quotes a wife... He's not a drinker.. yet he's bellowing for more booze... Usually quite as a church mouse...

I'm stuned, stuned I tell ya'

10 posted on 03/20/2005 5:44:00 AM PST by csvset
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To: KeyLargo
After reading the story I had to go back to the first sentence and reread, to make sure I understood it correctly: A Brooklyn man who went berserk aboard a JFK-bound airliner died Friday night after being handcuffed and held down by seven athletes who had come to the aid of the flight crew.

The comments here are really off-the-mark and perversely casual, IMHO. Nothing that this guy did raise to the level to warrant that he be, in essence, suffocated by a gang of athletes.

This was not a shoe-bomber, this was a drunk. Somebody (the athletes, the airline) is going to pay dearly for this.

11 posted on 03/20/2005 5:46:19 AM PST by WL-law
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To: drt1
I had a berserk incident happen on a flight from London to Dulles. Same type of thing - We (Four of us) had to restrain a passenger who had punched a Flight Attendant. The flight, a 747-400, had no restraints

This is why whenever I fly I keep a roll of duct tape in my carry on. Useful for fixing luggage that breaks, taping things in the hotel or rental car that need a little repair and it makes a GREAT restraint or gag when needed.
12 posted on 03/20/2005 5:48:19 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: cajungirl

Why Haldol should be available in a dart gun dispenser for ER use on Saturday night.


13 posted on 03/20/2005 5:49:43 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: KeyLargo

Sounds amazingly similar to a recent CSI episode.


14 posted on 03/20/2005 5:50:16 AM PST by realpatriot (Some spelling errors may have been intentionally included)
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To: WL-law

Ah let me guess, a personal injury lawyer?


15 posted on 03/20/2005 5:51:02 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: dog breath

The walls and ceiling outside the cabin could be studded with tasers, ready to be triggered from within the cabin.


16 posted on 03/20/2005 5:52:30 AM PST by Tax Government (Boycott and defeat the Legacy Media. Become a monthly contributor to FR.)
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To: Kozak
Yeah, it was ASTONISHING to me that there was absolutely nothing for the crew to control the situation on an airliner of approx 280 passengers and about 10 crew on a seven hour flight. I had to use the demonstration seat belts to tie the guy up. I got no answers to any of the questions about this from anyone.

BTW, I had pointed this guy out to a Flight Attendant BEFORE we left because he was very evidently acting in a weird manner. They took no action!

17 posted on 03/20/2005 5:56:21 AM PST by drt1
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To: Kozak; WL-law
Ah let me guess, a personal injury lawyer?

Isn't it pathetic? They are a curse on this country.

If I sat on a jury judging this case, there would be not one penny awarded, and I'd ask the judge to sanction the filthy greedy lawyer pirate for wasting everybody's time.

-ccm

18 posted on 03/20/2005 5:56:35 AM PST by ccmay (Question Diversity)
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To: WL-law
An out-of-control drunk threatening to break in to a cockpit is potentially just as deadly as a terrorist with a boxcutter. At 25,000 feet up, safety of the flight takes priority over determining just exactly what the minimum force to restrain a beserk drunk should be.

Nonetheless, as a compromise, I suggest the airline allow Mr. Lee's frequent flier miles to be transferred to his heirs rather than forfeited.

19 posted on 03/20/2005 5:59:17 AM PST by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: Kozak

"Ah let me guess, a personal injury lawyer?"



More probably an American. Being deprived of the most Unalienable of Rights without due process shouldn't require a lawyer's mentality (please excuse the oxymoron)to ascertain that some rugby players do not a jury make.

The autopsy should prove interesting. For the player's sake one must hope exonerating facts will be forthcoming.

Hint: sell that airline stock short.


20 posted on 03/20/2005 6:00:51 AM PST by GladesGuru
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