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12ga shotgun vs. 2 boats of Pirates
The Highroad ^ | March 11, 2005 | Rodney J. Nowlin, USN Retire

Posted on 03/20/2005 4:22:16 AM PST by SLB

"We are safe in port of Aden. It‚s been 3 days repairing the damage. 30 bullets holes in deck, cabin house, dodger, and alas, newly varnished mast. Our bow shows evidence of a satisfying crunch. Our new paint job was not meant to be. Dinghy on deck was seriously wounded but in stable condition, much repatched. No wine was hurt.

This is the „official‰ report filed with the Yemen Coast Guard, Yemen Navy, Aden Port Control, US Coalition 5th Fleet, US Embassy and State Department? but not Carol‚s mother. Unfortunately, the poor guy that shoots has to write up the paper work. The one that rams does not engender any paper-work, except sand paper work.

March 11, 2005, written by Rodney J. Nowlin, USN Retired Pirate Attack off Yemen Coast

On Tuesday, March 8, 2005 at position 13 Degrees 28 North / 49 Degrees 07 East, in the infamous Pirate Alley of the Gulf of Aden, two sailing yachts, Madhi and Gandalf, were moving SW 30 miles off the coast of Yemen proceeding to the port of Aden from Salalah, Oman.

At about 0900 local, two outboard powered fiberglass longboats, about 20 feet long, each containing 3 men, passed off our sterns moving south at about 25 knots into the open Gulf between Yemen and Somalia. An hour later they returned, one coming quite close and looking us over carefully. The second boat passed off our bows but quite a ways away. These boats were obviously not engaged in a normal activity like fishing. At that time we were south of Al Mukalla, Yemen. The area around Al Mukalla is well documented as being a piracy, drug & people smuggling problem area and we maintained a careful watch for anything out of the ordinary.

At about 1600 we observed two different boats approaching us head on from the west with the glare of the sunset in our eyes. These were 25-30 feet long, had inboard diesel engines and higher freeboard. We immediately motored closer together. As soon as they saw us close ranks they started coming very fast directly at us. There were 4 men in each boat. They separated at about 200 yards with one boat coming down Madhi‚s port side, shouting and firing into the cockpit. The other boat, firing automatic weapons came at Gandalf. There were no warning shots. Carol on Gandalf began sending Maydays on every frequency.

The first boat swung around behind Mahdi‚s stern to come up and board us. At that point, I , Rod Nowlin aboard Mahdi and armed with a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with 00 buckshot, started shooting into their boat. I forced them to keep their heads down so they could not shoot at us. I am not sure I hit anyone at that point. I could see the driver of the boat crouched down behind the steering console. After firing three shots at them, their engine started to smoke and I swung around to try to shoot at the second boat ahead. At that point I saw Jay Barry on Gandalf ram the second boat amidships almost cutting it in two and turning it almost completely over. I turned back around to shoot at the boat still behind Mahdi. That was when they turned away from Mahdi and headed toward the stern of Gandalf. Gandalf was beside us about 100 feet away. The bow of the pirate boat came right up against Gandalf‚s stern and two men stood up on the bow with guns to board Gandalf. That was a serious and probably fateful error on their part. I shot both of them. That boat then veered away and I shot the driver, although I am not sure of the outcome because they were farther away and I didn‚t knock him down like the other two trying to board Gandalf.

Mahdi & Gandalf kept going at full speed to put as much distance between the pirates and us as possible. As soon as we were out of rifle range, we looked back and both attack boats were drifting and seemed to be disabled.

A merchant ship nearby finally answered our Mayday and diverted course to position itself between the floundering pirates and the fleeing yachts. They said they would contact the authorities‚ by Sat phone and then sailed alongside us for 4 hours after dark to make sure we would be all right. Best speed was made to the Port of Aden 180 miles away.

If Jay on Gandalf had not had the presence of mind to veer over into one boat and ram it, the outcome of this attack would have been totally different. All the guys needed to do was stand off a ways and shoot us to pieces with automatic weapons. We were extremely lucky. We broadcast Mayday calls on VHF 16 and all HF radio frequencies, including two HF frequencies that were supplied by the US Coast Guard near Oman only a few days before. Frequencies which the Coalition Forces Warships in this area were supposed to be monitoring. There was no response. The pirates were well organized and well armed. There were at least 4 boats involved. They had set up a picket line out from the Yemen coast probably covering 75 miles out, so if you transited the area during the day they would not miss seeing you. The two attack boats appeared to have come from the south before positioning themselves ahead of us in the sunset.

There has been speculation in the past that this ongoing piracy problem off Yemen‚s coast was being carried out by Somali pirates. Given the number, the types of boats involved, and the direction the supposed spotter boats were coming from, this does not appear to be the case. The men in the attack boats looked both African and Arab.

There was no evidence that this was a people smuggling operation. There were no men, women or children cowering in the boats. These were not fishing boats with nets or overhead sun protection. They appeared to be purpose-built boats, 25-30 feet long, with wooden splines or poles fashioned above the gunwales to which a plastic tarp or shield was hung chest high for the men to hide behind after shooting. The problem is getting worse and the pirate attacks are getting deadly. One could only expect that the Yemen Government will take more direct action At very least, allow yachts to group in Salalah, Oman and at some point along the NW Yemen coast request an escort until Aden or the Straits.

Rodney J. Nowlin, USN Retire March 11, 2005


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To: squirt-gun

eh heh heh.. have you ever tried to shoot accurately from a bobbing platform at an asynchronously bobbing target at any sertious distance?


82 posted on 03/20/2005 8:44:02 AM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: E.Allen
The 12ga range can be extended dramatically by using a rifled choke (or barrel) and 12ga saboted slugs. You'll easily hold a 4"-6" group at 100yds, and should be able to hit something the size of a boat at 200-300 yds with practice.

That assumes a stable platform. On a boat that's bobbing up and down and side-to-side, accurate range is much reduced. Which means that shotgun vs AK is a more even match

84 posted on 03/20/2005 8:47:26 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (This space for rent)
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To: Tijeras_Slim; Travis McGee; Eaker; humblegunner; TheMom

Humblegunner says that's a common everyday event when eeeeek's the designated driver on the trip home from deer camp ! Travis is of course dead on as to accuracy from a boat in open ocean . When a knowledgeable shooter remembers how much breath control effects accuracy .....they understand the rolling and rocking of the vessel or vehicle

We used to train to shoot from moving vehicles with our sidearms while driving. The key was to lock the handgun up across yer chest and shoot and watch your hits vs any form of aiming using the sights as the vehicle movements and bumps etc and the other vehicle agressing moving made any "MOA" accuracy moot.....

Tough situation for those with training and sea legs . Lucky hits are the only option for the rest of us landlubbers......

But then that new geostablized eeeek'athopian exothermic electric hocky puck like rail gun that eeeeek's been building at deer camp may be the answer.......one can only hope ! Course he's limited to old D cell batteries , duct tape and beer cans for construction material (See Red Green with a drawl) so a viable prototype is still deer camps away from completion........


85 posted on 03/20/2005 8:48:37 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Travis McGee

dude, that's what brass-catchers are for... but you knew that :)


86 posted on 03/20/2005 8:51:46 AM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Agree....when I was in Italy I could keep my Mod 29 Smiths and a .38 Super 1911A1 (El Presidente) at the house but my "other" travel guns had to stay at the armory at the base and could only be used at the base firing ranges. The 45GAP and the new 50GI will fit that nich well if their polidiots don't bury it under a terrorism safety act.

Stay safe !


87 posted on 03/20/2005 8:53:34 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: libstripper
Good morning.

Accurate shooting from a moving boat is difficult. Accurate shooting from a moving boat at another moving boat is even harder.

First person shooter games are good training devices but nothing beats the real thing, does it. You've got to love Yachtsmen. Michael Frazier
88 posted on 03/20/2005 8:53:59 AM PST by brazzaville (No surrender,no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Tom Bombadil; Bear_Slayer
The true strength of the 12 guage pump is it's ability to select munitions to match the situation.

Keep a 7 round side saddle on the reciever and another on the butt stock.

0 - 7 yards 4 to 7 shot is devestating, perfect for boarders.

7 - 20 yards, buck shot is your friend

20 - 100+, rifled slugs or saboted slugs are deadly accurate and leave enormous holes.

Then you also have the less lethal options of bean bags, etc. (No fun there)

Buck is a good all round choice to leave in the magazine, but with a mix of slugs and buck on the side saddles you can make sure no misses the party.


89 posted on 03/20/2005 8:54:56 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Travis McGee

That's why you keep 5 rounds of slug in holder on buttstock. Three rounds three inch two rounds three inch magnum.
Hellish big hole and far more damaging than buckshot downrange. Not that accurate at distance but when they hear the sound of that howitzer round hitting their boat you have their attention.


90 posted on 03/20/2005 8:57:12 AM PST by chuckwalla (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: TC Rider

Side saddle and 15 round sling.


91 posted on 03/20/2005 9:03:13 AM PST by chuckwalla (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: lady lawyer
What'd you shoot'em with?

A freakin' twelve-gauge, what'd ya think?
I think I love you, lady lawyer.

You could totally drink whole milk if you wanted.
92 posted on 03/20/2005 9:04:02 AM PST by HerrKobes
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To: Bear_Slayer

My thoughts on accuracy (sabots - rifled barrel)

When you are on a moving boat, 00 buckshot is a much better option than a single projectile.


93 posted on 03/20/2005 9:06:05 AM PST by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: spodefly

That marine magnum is a great off the shelf rig. I replaced the black furniture with the rescue orange colored stock and Surefire forend in the same rescue orange color from brownell's to use as a "camp safety gun". Also added a 2"x 8" strip of glow in the dark tape on each side of the stock and a sidesaddle spare ammo carrier.

When camping in dangrous game country, fishing , 4 wheeling, camping or even hunting we have two of em left lying about loaded with slugs for Yogi's, Yahoos and Yeti's etc etc.....


94 posted on 03/20/2005 9:07:16 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: TexasCowboy

The fishing there is great when using satchel charges !


95 posted on 03/20/2005 9:19:08 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Travis McGee

Can I borrow yer AR on my next cruise....?;o)

Splash !......LOL !

Good points as usual Travis !


96 posted on 03/20/2005 9:25:50 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: SLB

Private boating obviously needs some torpedoes and fire control systems.


97 posted on 03/20/2005 9:27:27 AM PST by bvw
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To: t_skoz

Opinions on a gun porn pirate thread ?!?!?.........:o)


98 posted on 03/20/2005 9:28:15 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: lady lawyer

Tina, want some HAM?!?


99 posted on 03/20/2005 9:34:36 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: King Prout
asynchronously bobbing target....I dated her !

If yer gonna make me google 3 dollar words I'll never get through this thread......:o)

100 posted on 03/20/2005 9:37:24 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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