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Frist Threatens Jail for Terri Judge(Shiavo Feeding)
Newsmax ^ | 3/19/05

Posted on 03/19/2005 8:00:19 AM PST by beyond the sea

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To: Knitting A Conundrum
What's next, putting down Alzheimer's and Parkinson's patients?

This is the reason that the powers that be are pushing so hard to put her to death.

This case has the potential to greatly advance the cause of euthanasia.

If they succeed they will have established a precedent for

1.Denying care and hastening the death of a person who is conscience and not in a total vegetative state without any written proof of consent from that person.

2.They will have done so based totally on the word and authority of some other person and entity who may not have the best interest of the person being denied life sustaining care.

3. They will have denied the rights of those family members [ even parents] who love and want to care for the individual.

4. In a subtle way the subject of cost has been introduced into the equation.

Yes if they succeed they will have taken a great leap toward not only euthanasia but euthanasia without the permission of the one on who the sentence is passed.

In other words the rich,famous, and powerful can have long term care but those lesser beings, well, it costs so much and it's really better for everyone including them, isn't it?

It can only get worse and get so very quickly.

321 posted on 03/19/2005 2:18:13 PM PST by mississippi red-neck
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To: mississippi red-neck

Which is why we have to fight.


322 posted on 03/19/2005 2:22:34 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: freedomdefender
Try reading at least a basic primer on american constitutional law before spouting off so indignantly (and ignorantly) You'd cause yourself less embarrassment

If you only knew I embarrassed I feel for you. But I suppose that's the impasse we've reached. I think you're a dumbass, and you think no better of me, so we're done. Nice talking to you.

323 posted on 03/19/2005 2:36:39 PM PST by Melas
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To: Tall_Texan
Judge Greer is ignoring the right to life guaranteed in the preamble of our Consitutuion...

You're confusing the Constitution with the Declaration of Independence.

324 posted on 03/19/2005 2:46:36 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Robe

It might be between a husband and wife if it were not for abuse charges by Terris family, that no MRI has been done to determine the actual extent of damage and rehab possibilities, and the insurance money thing. BTW, please DO write down your wishes--it's the only smart way to go.


325 posted on 03/19/2005 2:46:48 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: expatpat

The Supreme Court had already ruled on Brown V. B.of Education.


326 posted on 03/19/2005 3:07:09 PM PST by dwilli
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To: Bigh4u2

Well, in that case, it was a brilliant point. The one who appoints himself as a guardian and says go ahead and starve my ward to death is hardly a "guardian."


327 posted on 03/19/2005 4:59:15 PM PST by Enterprise (President George W. Bush - the leading insurgent detergent.)
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To: beyond the sea
I am angry about this... anyone who isn't is heartless.

You consider two times to be often? I am creeped out that you are "stalking" my posts and making generalizations about them. Who ARE you and why are you studying MY posts?
328 posted on 03/19/2005 6:47:50 PM PST by spiralsue (Medieval treatment of Terri Schiavo continues, right NOW!)
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To: beyond the sea
WHAT IS YOUR POINT????????????

WHAT ANGRY TANTRUM????????????

Why do you think *I* (little spiralsue) can't post because I'm angry? You're posting away. Why can't I? I thought this was a FORUM for posting. Where in the rules does it say I have to be happy about something or not post? And where does it say you get to tell to "get hold of my emotions"? Mother, is that you? Father? You are nothing to me and I will not check my emotions. If I cannot be emotional and upset and angry over this, when would it be appropriate, oh KNOWER OF ALL?

I've got an idea, you leave me the he*l alone and I will leave you alone. YOU are the one wasting time.

AND AGAIN, QUIT STALKING MY POSTS... What the ______ are you trying to prove and WHY????????????

Kumbayamylordkumbaya... happy shiny people everywhere... love is all you need...

... is that helping you?
329 posted on 03/19/2005 6:55:05 PM PST by spiralsue (Medieval treatment of Terri Schiavo continues, right NOW!)
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To: beyond the sea

No I didn't sit on a thorn. I ran across one on Free Republic today.


330 posted on 03/19/2005 6:59:56 PM PST by spiralsue (Medieval treatment of Terri Schiavo continues, right NOW!)
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To: beyond the sea

But I am an eight-year-old.


331 posted on 03/19/2005 7:01:16 PM PST by spiralsue (Medieval treatment of Terri Schiavo continues, right NOW!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I did that - read your post and chanted to myself irony irony irony but nothing happened. It's not political.


332 posted on 03/19/2005 7:02:47 PM PST by spiralsue (Medieval treatment of Terri Schiavo continues, right NOW!)
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To: RoseofTexas

Yes, prayer is necessary. But so is ACTION. I won't give up. God gave us mouths and fingers and arms and the ability to communicate, reason and deliberate. I have used my God-given abilities to write and call every authority I can about this... In addition to many almost continuous prayers for months now.

Thank GOD Senator Santorum and Congressman DeLay feel there is something more than prayer that can be done.


333 posted on 03/19/2005 7:06:51 PM PST by spiralsue (Medieval treatment of Terri Schiavo continues, right NOW!)
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To: freeangel
It might be between a husband and wife if it were not for abuse charges by Terris family, that no MRI has been done to determine the actual extent of damage and rehab possibilities, and the insurance money thing. BTW, please DO write down your wishes--it's the only smart way to go

What ever... it's still not within the purview of the US Congress.. It amazes me that the same people here that adhere to a Conservative less government want it to intervene into a situation that is a private manner. BTW.. you have signed onto the "Activist Group" that is creating "facts" that have not been substantiated

334 posted on 03/19/2005 8:49:48 PM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: doc30
Frist - get to work on federal issues and but out of this case. There won't be another republican sent to congress from Florida if you keep feeding this circus.

Maybe you can get slaveholder's rights restored to Florida too. Why should only a husband have power over his wife's life ? Can't have the feds telling a state who they can kill or hold in bondage ...

335 posted on 03/19/2005 8:52:45 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Robe
If the police in over 15years have seen fit to charge the husband I think you are gsaping at straws.. give it up, this is NOT IN THE PERVIEW OF THE US CONGRESS\
336 posted on 03/19/2005 8:58:37 PM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Felos, Greer, etc. are using this case for their own political agendas....someone like Frist and Co. need to get this judge for contempt of Congress...and not just talk about it. Terri's welfare is the least of the concerns of those Fla. jerks!!


337 posted on 03/19/2005 9:02:24 PM PST by whadizit (an)
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To: DarthTinkerbell

Where is the Justice Dept. in all this? It seems like the U.S. Atty Gen. would be consulted/used somehow.


338 posted on 03/19/2005 9:08:27 PM PST by whadizit (an)
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To: Robe

""creating "facts" that have not been substantaited"

The only fact that has not been substantiated is abuse . Hmmm--More of a reason for Michael to want his lovel wife dead--dead (wo)men tell no tales.


339 posted on 03/20/2005 5:25:35 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: spiralsue
The last I wrote to you was an attempt to let you know that I looked at your posts here at FR in order to see from where your anger comes, and then I complimented you.

I wrote in post 276 -- "Well, you're a good person, because you have the decency to apologize when you goof. I've read a number of your posts. You have a very good heart. Please don't get too down over this. ------- Let's all say prayers for Terri, and hope things change for her very soon."

Then I get this angry and disjointed stuff from you.

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You wrote: WHAT IS YOUR POINT??????????? WHAT ANGRY TANTRUM???????????? Why do you think *I* (little spiralsue) can't post because I'm angry? You're posting away. Why can't I? I thought this was a FORUM for posting. Where in the rules does it say I have to be happy about something or not post? And where does it say you get to tell to "get hold of my emotions"? Mother, is that you? Father? You are nothing to me and I will not check my emotions. If I cannot be emotional and upset and angry over this, when would it be appropriate, oh KNOWER OF ALL? ----- I've got an idea, you leave me the he*l alone and I will leave you alone. YOU are the one wasting time.------- AND AGAIN, QUIT STALKING MY POSTS... What the ______ are you trying to prove and WHY????????????------ Kumbayamylordkumbaya... happy shiny people everywhere... love is all you need...

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wherein you ask me no less than eight questions, and then say "leave me the he*l alone". Quite contradictory.

If you don't want anyone to read your posts, don't write them. That is what that search feature is for on this website.

It sure makes sense that you are a person who says she hates cats. You don't like it when someone or something sees through you or will not go along with your petulant commands.

I completely agreed and agree with you about Terri and her well-being, but all you wish to do is fight and use to many "??????'s". I've seen enough of your posts to see that you have what is known as "a short fuse". You fight with people at the drop of a hat. You immediately disagree whenever you have the opportunity, seldom trying to find common ground.

As I said in the earlier post, you seem to have a very good heart, but you're not very good at showing it. You have been extremely disagreeable and are constantly ready to pick a fight.

The only thing that matters on this thread is the care of Terri, so I would wish that you would keep your temper to yourself, direct it to the people who side with the husband and the judge, or take it to another thread.

Have a nice Sunday.

340 posted on 03/20/2005 6:41:51 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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