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Muslims demand papal apology for crusades
World Net Daily ^ | 3/19/2005

Posted on 03/19/2005 4:02:25 AM PST by Pipeline

Muslims demand papal apology for crusades Highest Sunni authority sends official request to Vatican

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: March 19, 2005 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

The world's highest Sunni Muslim authority has demanded an official apology from the pope for the medieval Christian crusades.

Sheikh Fawzi Zafzaf, president of the Interfaith Dialogue Committee of Al-Azhar University in Cairo, said his panel sent the request to the Vatican in February, the Morocco Times reported.

The demand arose from Pope John Paul II's apologies to the Jewish people and his visits to Syria and Egypt a few years ago, Zafzaf said.

Al-Azhar is only asking for a similar treatment, he stated.

The Morocco paper said the Vatican's ambassador to Egypt has declined to comment, saying Al-Azhar's request is being considered by the Holy See.

While many Christians have expressed remorse for the crusades, some scholars insist the common characterization of zealous imperialists attacking peaceful Muslims is wrong.

Thomas F. Madden, author of "A Concise History of the Crusades," contends the Crusades "were in every way a defensive war."

"They were the West's belated response to the Muslim conquest of fully two-thirds of the Christian world," he wrote in a National Review column. "While the Arabs were busy in the seventh through the tenth centuries winning an opulent and sophisticated empire, Europe was defending itself against outside invaders and then digging out from the mess they left behind. Only in the eleventh century were Europeans able to take much notice of the East. "

Madden said the event that led to the crusades was the Turkish conquest of most of Christian Asia Minor, modern Turkey.

"The Christian emperor in Constantinople, faced with the loss of half of his empire, appealed for help to the rude but energetic Europeans. He got it. More than he wanted, in fact," wrote Madden, associate professor and chair of the Department of History at Saint Louis University.

Over the past several years, pronouncements from Al-Azhar have sparked controversy.

In 2003, Al-Azhar's grand sheikh, Muhammad Sayyid Tantawi, stated suicide bombers are considered "martyrs" under Islamic law.

In December 2002, the Islamic Ruling Committee in Al-Azhar declared the acquisition of nuclear weapons to be a religious obligation for Islamic states.

A member of panel, Sheikh Ala A-Shanawi, said, "The Islamic nation has to recognize the enemy, and to prepare itself accordingly."

Answering a question he received, A-Shanawi wrote, "Allah's messenger [Muhammad] would have prepared himself with all the resources possible in order to deal with the enemy. Therefore, if the Islamic nation is not equipped with the desired weaponry needed, it will be forced to suffer the consequences, and will be blamed for negligence."

The sheikh continued, "All Islamic nations are required to seize nuclear weaponry, giving the nation the utmost respect. We see how far behind our nation is as a result of not being prepared as well as it should be, while the enemy has equipped itself with the best weaponry there is, which it will use to harm and destroy Muslims."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: aintgonnahappen; antichristian; apology; bigotry; christians; crusades; hypocrisy; islam; israel; isreal; muslims; religion
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To: twntaipan

And the crusader Saint John the Baptist in downtown Beirut.


81 posted on 03/19/2005 9:05:44 AM PST by Patrick_k
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To: Pipeline

The Crusaders had it right.


82 posted on 03/19/2005 9:05:58 AM PST by hgro
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To: All

Israeli Olympic athletes, Leon Klinghoffer's family, Naval personnel on the USS Cole, thousands of family members left behind, bereft in the wake of 9/11 and countless others before and since, shout with one voice -

SCREW YOU and THE CAMELS YOU RIDE!

We might apologise after every single vestige of your foul pseudo-religion is wiped out from this earth - but why don't you just hold your breath until then?!

A.A.C.


83 posted on 03/19/2005 9:09:21 AM PST by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: Pipeline

"While many Christians have expressed remorse for the crusades..."

We have no remorse, we are still living here in the Middle East, still hanging on to our faith after eight centuries.

The Patriarch of the Eastern Orthodox Church (Antiochan) declared publicly in 1985 that this land is a christian land and whoever lives on it is our guest.


84 posted on 03/19/2005 9:11:53 AM PST by Patrick_k
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; DKNY; Doctor Raoul; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

85 posted on 03/19/2005 9:23:13 AM PST by nutmeg (democRATs = The Party of NO)
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To: cyborg

My only remorse over the Crusades is their insufficient thoroughness.


86 posted on 03/19/2005 9:26:27 AM PST by Petronski (If 'Judge' Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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To: Petronski

Agreed!


87 posted on 03/19/2005 9:27:56 AM PST by cyborg (Sudanese refugee,"Mr.Schiavo I disagree with your opinion about not feeling pain when you starve.")
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To: Pipeline

How about a Muslim apology for 911?


88 posted on 03/19/2005 9:31:08 AM PST by Barnacle (Being the biggest target, the Catholic Church attracts a plethora of poor marksmen.)
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To: Pipeline
Muslims demand papal apology for crusades

Try askin' the next one - he'll probably be one of you anyway...

89 posted on 03/19/2005 9:39:33 AM PST by solitas (So what if I support a platform that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.3.7)
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To: twntaipan

why stop with that ? return the temple mount to its rightful owners and rid it of those 2 abominations and return all the holy sites to the Hindus that were turned into mosques


90 posted on 03/19/2005 9:42:39 AM PST by avile
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To: Pipeline

This guy has very Western thinking...


91 posted on 03/19/2005 9:42:51 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Pipeline

How about an apology for the CURRENT Muslem crusade first? What? NO? Rot in hell you murderer.


92 posted on 03/19/2005 9:42:54 AM PST by Danae (Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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To: paudio

Jerusalem is eternally Jewish


93 posted on 03/19/2005 9:44:46 AM PST by avile
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To: JesseHousman
Some believe that the anti-christ is alive today.

We live in interesting times.

94 posted on 03/19/2005 9:46:01 AM PST by airborne (Dear Lord, please be with my family in Iraq. Keep them close to You and safely in Your arms.)
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To: Pipeline

And when they are at it.... WHY NOT MONETARY COMPENSATION ??


95 posted on 03/19/2005 9:46:08 AM PST by traumer
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To: WideGlide

Oh yes!


96 posted on 03/19/2005 9:47:12 AM PST by verity (The Liberal Media and the ACLU are America's Enemies)
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To: The Red Zone

Sooner or later, civilized society is going to have to deal with Islam. It is a violent cult and pseudo-religion. Muslims cannot be trusted. They have proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt. We should strive to elect leaders who will deal with these people as any threat should be dealt with.


97 posted on 03/19/2005 9:50:21 AM PST by SALChamps03
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

Not this Christian, neither. No apologies forthcoming.


98 posted on 03/19/2005 9:58:28 AM PST by bboop
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To: hillary's_fat_a**
Can Reparations be far behind?
We ought to give them reparations in the form of nukes over Mecca and Medina. Turn the frigging places into glow in the dark craters. After that, we'll say, "Gee, we are soooo sorry for turning the Kaaba and Mohammed's tomb into a radioactive slag heaps."
99 posted on 03/19/2005 9:59:52 AM PST by attiladhun2
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To: Pipeline

Eat s#*t and die you sons of pig F*$king dogs! The crusades, although sadly bungled by greedy noblemen at the time were a response to the muslim invasions and conquest of what were then predominately christian lands. Their policy of convert or die and closing off of the holy land, desecration of christian sites were the impetus for mounting armies against their worthless asses.


100 posted on 03/19/2005 10:03:16 AM PST by RJS1950 (The rats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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