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Man Kills Baby Boy, Self During Chase
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| 18 Mar 05
| AP
Posted on 03/19/2005 2:13:19 AM PST by stm
PIKEVILLE, Ky. A man abducted his 9-month-old son from the mother's home, then shot and killed the baby and himself as police closed in, authorities said.
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To: P8riot
The original article posted says nothing about a known drinking problem or threats against any of them.
All it talked about was a child support dispute. That doesn't automatically mean violence.
Maybe you read that information on another thread. I see that something else has been posted here, but I haven't read it. I left the thread after I posted to you.
IF it is true that he had threatened them, then I agree that a teenage babysitter isn't the best choice.
But I can't fault the mother simply because she had a babysitter. Heck the guy had a gun. He broke down the door.
Even if mom had been home this guy could still have taken the baby. He probably would have killed her to get the baby.
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posted on
03/19/2005 5:05:19 AM PST
by
texasflower
("America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one." President George W. Bush 01/20/05)
To: Aussie Dasher
That sort of thing is becoming quite the norm in Florida, I gather
The News reported 6 sharks were swimming off the coast of Florida near a resort area. I thought, "Florida - they're in the News a lot lately. Hmmmmm?"
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posted on
03/19/2005 5:05:38 AM PST
by
Bear_Slayer
(If you're gonna be a Knight act like a Knight.)
To: Dante3
He asked the girl whether she had called police; she told him no
"No" . . .?
I would have first called the police and then likely shot him when he came through the door.
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posted on
03/19/2005 5:08:34 AM PST
by
Bear_Slayer
(If you're gonna be a Knight act like a Knight.)
To: stm
"For Terri, it was SSDD for the rest of her existence." Unless I replying to God Almighty, you cannot know this and it not for us to decide this.
If we are to err, we should always err on the side of life.
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posted on
03/19/2005 5:10:02 AM PST
by
realpatriot
(Some spelling errors may have been intentionally included)
To: Bear_Slayer
Sharks off Florida beaches are a daily occurance, this is nothing new. Where I live, sharks patrol 200 - 300 yards offshore every single day. They are everywhere. But only very rarely do they come in closer than that because there is plenty of food out where they are.
Where people get in trouble is doing stupid things like chumming the beach after dark while shark fishing. That has been banned now put people still do it in more remote stretches of beach.
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posted on
03/19/2005 5:11:27 AM PST
by
stm
To: HankReardon
Check out stm's member page.
"LIFE (!), liberty and the relentless pursuit of happiness" (unless you are unable to defend yourself, and are innocent of any crimes)
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posted on
03/19/2005 5:18:21 AM PST
by
realpatriot
(Some spelling errors may have been intentionally included)
To: realpatriot
In 1979 my father suffered a stroke on the heart lung machine during his second heart bypass operation. It was a terrible thing to happen but it did, sh*t happens. It was his time. He wound up in the same state that Terri is now. He spent the next 4 months as a veritable zombie, unable to feed himself, unable to void by himself, unable to do anything for himself but basically stare into space. It sucked.
My Mom realized the futility of this and asked for his feeding tube to be removed. He slipped away peacefully about 2 weeks later. I have lived through this fu**king nightmare personally. Anyone that thinks that Terri is magically going to get better and one day just wake up and get out of bed is a fool. She is not, and all her physicians agree. Terri will be much better off in a week or two when she too slips away. And so will her family. It was tough as hell on us but eventually you come to grips with the fact that it was the right thing to do.
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posted on
03/19/2005 5:20:05 AM PST
by
stm
To: P8riot
If your husband, or the baby's dad is around you can get out alone leaving the baby with dad. She was apparantly raising the child alone and needed a babysitter to get out alone to shop.
I always tried not to take kids out with me, shopping was much faster & easier. I don't see that she did ANYTHING wrong as far as that goes.
Whatever the nature of the relationship between this woman & the married dad, she was apparently right to deny him access; he was a nutcase. Child support would still be the child's right & dad obligation.
To: realpatriot
Read #27 and maybe you won't be so quick to f'ing judge
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posted on
03/19/2005 5:21:44 AM PST
by
stm
To: stm
I'm not doubting you, but I'm confused why this was News worthy.
Man bites shark?
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posted on
03/19/2005 5:40:12 AM PST
by
Bear_Slayer
(If you're gonna be a Knight act like a Knight.)
To: stm
Go ahead, master, draw me a picture. And while you are at it include others that you deem unworthy of life.
To: HankReardon
And just where in any of my posts did I say she was unworthy, "master"?
Maybe if you had lived through a similar circumstance you would have a different perspective. If you have not you then you are just intellectualizing.
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posted on
03/19/2005 5:51:50 AM PST
by
stm
To: stm
I have worked ICU's. I have SEEN miracles. I used to believe strongly in favor of "mercy killing" (One hell of an oxymoron if there even was one.)
Events I can only describe as the hand of GOD have taken away a very dark veil from my eyes.
Much as I hate to hear of the loss of your father, how do you know he passed peacefully? How do we presume to know what someone is thinking/felling especially while in such a state.
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posted on
03/19/2005 5:53:53 AM PST
by
realpatriot
(Some spelling errors may have been intentionally included)
To: realpatriot
If it had not been 15 years I might agree with you, but after this much time I think the chances are slim to none.
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posted on
03/19/2005 6:00:37 AM PST
by
stm
To: RonPaulLives; skinkinthegrass
Probably the worst story ever to come from Kentucky and be posted on Freerepublic. My hometown, no less.
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posted on
03/19/2005 6:06:46 AM PST
by
LanPB01
To: Aussie Dasher
In Florida, it's state sanctioned. ..actually, its nation-wide...by, The Democratic Party, the party really committed to (early, late-term, "inconvenient/elderly/disabled people" post-term) abortion people.
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posted on
03/19/2005 6:29:19 AM PST
by
skinkinthegrass
(Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
To: stm
I like the response if I am risking being wrong I'd choose to err on the side of life. The woman's family is willing to take care of her, let them.
It seemed you were suggesting her future was unworthy of life. If you weren't, you weren't, seemed that way to me.
All even the partially impaired, dependant and those who are an inconvienance to others should be very afraid at this time in our history. They are at risk of being disposed of.
To: stm
Murder is murder, no matter who the murderer or the victim.
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posted on
03/19/2005 9:16:04 PM PST
by
Aussie Dasher
(Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
To: Aussie Dasher
That's only your opinion, I don't see it that way
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posted on
03/20/2005 3:01:51 AM PST
by
stm
To: stm
An opinion is only an opinion but all opinions are either right or wrong.
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