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DeLay Pledges Contempt Charge for Terri Judge
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| 3/18/05
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Posted on 03/18/2005 4:32:07 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
Historically in the US the filibuster has been a conservative political influence it increase the power of the smaller, less densely populated and rural states to resist changes favored by larger, more densely populated, and more urban states, Which is to say, roughly, it increases the power of voters in Red states at the expense of Blue states. Right now, the use of filibusters on judicial appointments is a weapon that is only used to block conservative nominees. If we get a Democrat in the White House, that would likely continue to be the case. Given that Republicans are never going to use that weapon, why shouldn't they abolish it?
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posted on
03/19/2005 7:55:38 AM PST
by
supercat
("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
To: TAdams8591
That's what it all comes down to. ME. Instead of looking at Terri's case, and considering it on it's own individual merits and it's unique circumstances, in as unbiased manner as humanly possible, you place it on par with your personal situation and project into it your own fears.And you only want to look at this situation through the lens of Terri's situation. It's bigger than that. I'm willing to consider how this might affect the entire country. You won't.
To: Shortstop7
"This woman will die. You want to relate her death to a silly filibuster in SC? Political pandering? Unbelievable...."
I understand why this is a lot of peoples first - and even their second - reaction to this situtation. But IMO we need to think ahead here - and think carefully - before we decide that Congress, overriding the courts, should be deciding on a case-by-case basis that (for example) someone's parents know their wishes better than their husband or wife.
For example, consider what could happen if the Democrats were back in power:
Your spouse is minimally conscious after an accident, and you want them to remain on life support because you know them better than anyone else, and you know that is what they would want.
Your in-laws sue to have your spouse disconnected from support, stating that they know better than anyone else what their child would want.
The courts a find in your favor.
Do you want a bunch of pro-euthanasia death-with--dignity liberal Democrats in congress second-guessing the court's decision?
Cause thats what you are setting yourself up for here.
1,003
posted on
03/19/2005 8:13:14 AM PST
by
M. Dodge Thomas
(More of the same, only with more zeros on the end.)
To: Dog Gone
Wrong. I can well see how the precedent established in Terri's case will effect vulnerable people in circumstances similar to Terri's, a fact you choose to ignore.
1,004
posted on
03/19/2005 8:16:09 AM PST
by
TAdams8591
(The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
To: Dog Gone
And you only want to look at this situation through the lens of Terri's situation. It's bigger than that. I'm willing to consider how this might affect the entire country. You won't. Suppose I have an invalid ward I want to get rid of. Please explain the problem with the following plan:
- Forbid any efforts by the ward's relatives or anyone who likes the ward to make any photos, videos, movies, or audio recordings.
- Move with the ward to Pinellas County, Florida.
- Have a few well-chosen "doctors" examine the ward, possibly after injecting a nice quantity of morphine first.
- Hire a lawyer who can make sure a a "suitable" judge gets appointed.
- Have the doctors declare the ward is PVS.
- "Remember" some statements the ward made about not wanting to live this way. Have a siling and an in-law also "remember" such statements.
Is there any reason that plan shouldn't work?
1,005
posted on
03/19/2005 8:18:08 AM PST
by
supercat
("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
To: muawiyah
"In India it is a common belief that when you go to the hospital you are going to die."There is a saying amongst lawyers "a medical licence is a license to kill."
To: Les_Miserables
People lie in court every day. Sworn testimony is only a little better than unsworn testimony. I don't know who is lying in this case. Someone is.
To: harpo11
The judge, Greer, has --- on various occasions when the law requires a guardian to act with prejudice toward life --- instead acted to end life, and so, he is not qualified to act as her guardian.
In the absence of a written statement by her, a "will," expressing her wish that "she would not want to live like that," you are wonderfully right on target.
The law in Florida, should have required a jury to review the "lone statement" by her husband.
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posted on
03/19/2005 8:22:13 AM PST
by
First_Salute
(May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
To: Dog Gone
People lie in court every day.When I tell people I'm a court reporter, they ask me what I do; I tell them I swear people in and watch them lie.
Sworn testimony is only a little better than unsworn testimony.
Actually, unsworn testimony is not as INFURIATING as sworn testimony, because your head doesn't blow off when you know they're lying under oath. :-)
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posted on
03/19/2005 8:24:29 AM PST
by
Howlin
(Hey, Toad, post this one!)
To: Howlin
Made worse, when it is the police detectives who are telling lies.
My hat is off to those on patrol, while, on the other hand, I would like very much to arrest some detectives.
1,010
posted on
03/19/2005 8:27:30 AM PST
by
First_Salute
(May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
To: The Red Zone
No, it is a must follow because I have litigated them. Generally it is when someone is terminal and alert and they make a decision to stop treatment an let the cancer take its courts. The mother or father tries to step in over the objections of the husband or wife who is the named surrogate.
They are emotional gut wrenching cases but those are cases where intent is well documented, one even used a video in addition to the papers but the mother still would not let her son go. She did not trust her daughter in law.
As my experience indicates, they can TRY and dispute it but it is very hard to overcome.
To: First_Salute
First_Salute, it's so good to see your post and your fine screen name. It's been a long time. Thank you for your insight.
Perhaps We the People should demand that Terry be given the same rights that defendants are given. Who will stand for Terry? I'm sure many will.
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posted on
03/19/2005 8:28:21 AM PST
by
harpo11
(Congress We Need More Steroid in the War on Terror. Let Baseball worry about Baseball.)
To: Servant of the 9
Yes, you are lonely, inside. But hiding it as you can will gain you time from having to deal with your emotions. How sad... If for so long your father asked you that... how often, I wonder, did you make him feel he would be worthless if he was 'not working.' Terrible for you do deal with, I guess.
Most relationships in this world are up and down, but to hear over and over from someone you care for, 'sure. when you're no longer 'working' I'll get rid of you.' I'm sure you did not use those words - but those are what he probably heard in his heart.
Sad, lonely, and scared, I believe you to be.
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posted on
03/19/2005 8:30:50 AM PST
by
freecopper01
(Chocolate...Where's the Chocolate???)
To: Les_Miserables
my bad it was late and I had a brain phart. sorry.
To: First_Salute
The law in Florida, should have required a jury to review the "lone statement" by her husband.According the to the Court of Appeals there was more than just her husband:
We note that the guardianship court's original order expressly relied upon and found credible the testimony of witnesses other than Mr. Schiavo or the Schindlers. We recognize that Mrs. Schiavo's earlier oral statements were important evidence when deciding whether she would choose in February 2000 to withdraw life-prolonging procedures. See § 765.401(3), Fla. Stat. (2000); In re Guardianship of Browning, 568 So. 2d 4, 16. Nevertheless, the trial judge, acting as her proxy, also properly considered evidence of Mrs. Schiavo's values, personality, and her own decision-making process.
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posted on
03/19/2005 8:34:59 AM PST
by
ThinkPlease
(Fortune Favors the Bold!)
To: JFK_Lib
No I didn't just now read it because I'm at work.
And I didn't say that God doesn't bless us when we do good things. I just said that there isn't anything we can do to EARN those things. Doing "good" is a byproduct of having salvation, and having God in our lives and hearts, which is a gift that we cannot earn.
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posted on
03/19/2005 8:35:36 AM PST
by
melbell
(A Freudian slip is when you mean one thing, and say your mother)
To: cajungirl
And why would you call it smarmy? It was a well written, clear, to-the-point, trying-to-understand, and trying-to-have-compassion note to someone whom I believe is in pain. Hmm. Must have stepped on your last frayed nerve of the day.
Though your words are great on visuals I don't know if you actually put them down as well as you could, though. I think you may have a problem expressing your true emotions. You might have on that in your communications.
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posted on
03/19/2005 8:37:41 AM PST
by
freecopper01
(Chocolate...Where's the Chocolate???)
To: supercat
That plan would probably work, although I wasn't aware that lawyers in Florida could choose which judge would hear the case.
To: Howlin
We almost never prosecute anyone for perjury in this country.
We should.
There's every incentive to lie in the courtroom and only the vaguest threat of a penalty.
To: freecopper01
How sad... If for so long your father asked you that... how often, I wonder, did you make him feel he would be worthless if he was 'not working.' Since he never stopped, I doubt it.
SO9
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