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Destroying the trees on the Gettysburg Battlefield (vanity)
Old Lady ^ | March 18, 2005 | Old Lady

Posted on 03/18/2005 10:44:28 AM PST by Old Phone Man

If you care about the Gettysburg battlefield, drive out to Devil's Den and look at the beautiful old trees. You won't find many because the park service just cut most of them down.

Some of these trees were over a hundred years old. Some were "witness trees" when the Civil War veterans came back to dedicate their monuments.

The trees provided a place of shady contemplation in the hot summer sun for thousands of visitors. Many of us who care about the battlefield are sickened by their loss.

The park service plans to make the landscape look like 1863 so rangers can point to a hill and say "they came from there" without annoying trees getting in the way.

Would we allow the park service to go into the Gettysburg National Cemetery and destroy all the trees planted after Lincoln gave his Gettysburg Address? No, we wouldn't, and we shouldn't allow them to do that to the park.

When Congress established the Gettysburg National Park in the 1800's, they did not intend the park to be a war college, frozen in time so we could all study battle tactics. That was NEVER the purpose of the park.

Civil War veterans came back over decades to dedicate their monuments and to attend reunions, and they NEVER asked that whole forests be destroyed to make the landscape look like 1863.

The park has a deeper purpose--a place to honor the dead and reflect on war, a place of peace, healing and contemplation. That is why we have the monuments, the Peace Light Memorial, and why the veterans came for reunions.

The people behind the current plan to cut down thousands of trees don't understand this or don't care.

Later this year, the park service plans to cut down a large area of woods behind Devil's Den, which will be a terrible tragedy. Please find out about the park service's plans, complain to your representative in Congress or become active in other constructive ways before our woods are devastated.

I have plenty of photos but don't have a website to post them from onto Free Republic.


TOPICS: US: Pennsylvania; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: abuse; battlefields; civilwar; gettysburg; govt; nps
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To: contemplator

Yeah, it would be a really good story of redemption too, since after his campaign of movement around Jackson and Raymond and during the siege, Grant went on a real bender out of boredom, so much so that his staff officers brought his wife down from Galena, Illinois to dry him out in time to accept Vickburg's surrender. Of course, Grant fully recovered and went on to greater things. It's too bad that no one has ever made a movie dedicated solely to him and his friend Sherman. It would be a good one.


81 posted on 03/18/2005 1:01:13 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Scotswife
Devil's Den is a favortie place of ours to take the kids so they can let out some energy climbing the boulders. It would be more difficult -as a visitor - to do this on a hot day without any shade.

So take them to a kiddy park next time. The Devil's Den area should relect the way it looked at the time. It was not created as a kid's playground. Perhaps you want them to add swing sets and monkey bars, but I don't.

82 posted on 03/18/2005 1:02:13 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Marszalek's book on Sherman would make a good movie. Not much action, but a fascinating character study.


83 posted on 03/18/2005 1:02:46 PM PST by flying Elvis
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To: johnb838

Never seen Cold Mountain, wouldn't know.
I have heard that they considered rerouting the Mississippi.
That would have been a heck of a project.


84 posted on 03/18/2005 1:03:13 PM PST by Graycliff ("Life is just one darn thing after another; LOVE is just two darn things after each other.")
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To: Old Phone Man

The region grows good trees. It is the natural state. Pennsylvania--Penn's Woods.


85 posted on 03/18/2005 1:04:25 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: Graycliff

Actually, the did try to rerout the Mississippi. You can see the remnants of the canal just off I-20 on the Louisiana side of the river.


86 posted on 03/18/2005 1:04:29 PM PST by flying Elvis
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To: uncitizen
As long as they're not cutting down the "clump of trees", i'm ok with restoring the battlefield to it's 1863 status.

There are some areas of the battlefield that was open ground in 1863 that are now dense forests. It's impossible to imagine what went on there as it stands today. I'm all for cutting down excess trees where they have overgrown battlefields. Did Pickett's charge occur in a forest or across an open field?

87 posted on 03/18/2005 1:07:11 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: flying Elvis

And coming to you in 2006 at NPS CW battlefields,courtesy
of Congressman Jesse Jackson,Jr.-displays on slavery as
the sole cause of the war. Quote-"for too many years the CW battlefields have had a Southern slant,I.E.,high water mark of the Confederacy at Gettysburg".


88 posted on 03/18/2005 1:07:43 PM PST by hillyes
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To: flying Elvis

Yeah, it's too bad that G&G turned out as the bloated tribute to the Lost Cause that it did. By trimming out most of the neo-Confederate trappings and focusing upon the close working relationship between Lee and Jackson, it would have been a much better movie. G&G really did bury any future prospect of a real good Civil War film focused upon military and inter-soldier themes, such as "Glory".


89 posted on 03/18/2005 1:08:11 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: flying Elvis
I'll make it a point to stop and see next time. Every time we've been through there it's been in the evening. We stay at the Battlefield Inn, We hit the casino's a night then go to the war Museum in the morning.
Beautiful country.
We love it.
90 posted on 03/18/2005 1:10:40 PM PST by Graycliff ("Life is just one darn thing after another; LOVE is just two darn things after each other.")
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To: Old Phone Man
I've documented the rape of Gettysburg daily, and I despise what I see... In fact, I'm sick over it!

The only rape of Gettysburg was letting it get overgrown and untended. It should be restored and preserved. It should not have forests where there were open fields just as it should not have baseball diamonds, soccer fields, or condominiums laid out over it.

91 posted on 03/18/2005 1:11:14 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Old Phone Man

If you want a natural park, not a military memorial, go somewhere else. There are plenty of natural parks to choose from -- but there is only one Gettysburg which should be as it was.


92 posted on 03/18/2005 1:14:35 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Some call G & G the "Virginia Monologues." lol


93 posted on 03/18/2005 1:16:09 PM PST by flying Elvis
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To: flying Elvis
I think a monorail running along the battlelines would be nice, that way we could have airconditioning and not disturb the happy trees and smiling deer.

I've sold monorails to Brockway, Audbinville, and North Haverbrooke, and by gum, it put them on the map! Well, sir, there's nothing on earth Like a genuine, Bona fide, Electrified, Six-car Monorail! What'd I say?

94 posted on 03/18/2005 1:21:03 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Old Phone Man

I would be interested in getting an overall sense of other Civil War/History enthusiasts take on this. I know there are a lot of them on FR, Does anyone have a ping list?


95 posted on 03/18/2005 1:21:13 PM PST by contemplator
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To: contemplator
I would be interested in getting an overall sense of other Civil War/History enthusiasts take on this.

They are all for restoring the park.

Heck, if someone can channel the dead veteran's thoughts, I can channel the Civil War/History enthusiasts thoughts as well.

96 posted on 03/18/2005 1:24:18 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: contemplator

Just say something bad about the causes of the war, Lee, and Grant, and they will inundate the thread. Of course, it will be hijacked into something completely irrelevant to the current discussion. lol


97 posted on 03/18/2005 1:24:58 PM PST by flying Elvis
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To: flying Elvis

As the trees are cut they could introduce small goats to both keep the grass down and nip off any tree/shrub shoots as they come up. This would reduce or eliminate the cost of keeping the trees and shrubs from reclaiming their place


98 posted on 03/18/2005 1:26:03 PM PST by JG52blackman
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To: FreedomCalls

Agreed. The trees were really getting out of hand and needed to be thinned back substantially. I drove by Little Round Top and the Wheat Field the other day, and was amazed at how much you can see after the trees were removed. It gave me a much different sense about how the battle developed in that area and what the soldiers perceived as they fought a huge see-saw fight back and forth over that acreage.


99 posted on 03/18/2005 1:28:13 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: JG52blackman

Nah, that makes too much sense for the government to do. lol. Seriously though, that's probably the best way to do it so long as the goats do not lay any soil bare.


100 posted on 03/18/2005 1:32:06 PM PST by flying Elvis
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