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$3.3 million in suspect cash is seized
St. Louis Post-Dispatch ^ | March 16, 2005 | Paul Hampel

Posted on 03/17/2005 5:45:12 PM PST by Graybeard58

A Pontoon Beach police officer acting on a hunch searched a tractor-trailer at a truck stop and discovered almost $3.3 million in suspected drug money, one of the largest cash seizures in the area's history.

The money, confiscated Friday, was mostly in $20 bills and took a team of 10 officers almost 12 hours to count, said Pontoon Beach Police Chief Charles Luehmann.

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"We catch people with anywhere from $5,000 or $6,000 all the way up to a half million usually," said St. Louis police spokesman Sgt. Sam Dotson. Almost "$3.3 million, I'd say that's a huge find for Pontoon Beach."

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If the driver can't provide proof he obtained the money legally, federal law requires that it be divided between Pontoon Beach police and federal agencies.

(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: aclulist; armedrobbers; assetforfeiture; donutwatch; ganbangerswithabadge; govwatch; libertarians; wodlist
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This is a very bad law.
1 posted on 03/17/2005 5:45:14 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58
This is a very bad law.

Did you lose some money ?

2 posted on 03/17/2005 5:46:37 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Bahbah

Is this near you? Do you think we should try claiming it?


3 posted on 03/17/2005 5:47:24 PM PST by hoosiermama (Party affiliation merits stating only if unique not common place.... R = unique. D=common place)
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To: af_vet_1981
Did you lose some money ?

No.

4 posted on 03/17/2005 5:47:50 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: af_vet_1981

How do you prove that the cash you have in your wallet was "earned legally"?
I may be able to prove that I have earned money legally, but I can't prove the cash in my pocket is that cash.


5 posted on 03/17/2005 5:50:13 PM PST by joshhiggins (I can make up statistics as well as the next guy.)
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To: joshhiggins
How do you prove that the cash you have in your wallet was "earned legally"? I may be able to prove that I have earned money legally, but I can't prove the cash in my pocket is that cash.

How do you prove that you just posted that comment ?

6 posted on 03/17/2005 5:51:57 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Graybeard58
If these forfeiture laws aren't the very definition of tyranny, I don't know what is.
7 posted on 03/17/2005 5:52:21 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: af_vet_1981

Mostly $20s ? WOnder if it's funny money.....Suppose it'll lead them to the local printing press? Yes, officer...I made that money!


8 posted on 03/17/2005 5:54:42 PM PST by hoosiermama (Party affiliation merits stating only if unique not common place.... R = unique. D=common place)
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To: hoosiermama
I'm simply amazed at how many drug dealers are conservatives.

Or is it vice versa ?
9 posted on 03/17/2005 5:55:33 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Graybeard58
Forget due process - this rabidly unconstitutional "law" seems more like a letter of marque and reprisal, turning the police from peace officers to de facto privateers.

(For those unfamiliar with the concept, a privateer is nothing but a pirate with the backing of a government.)

10 posted on 03/17/2005 5:55:37 PM PST by FierceDraka (The Democratic Party - Aiding and Abetting The Enemies of America Since 1968)
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Mostly $20s ? WOnder if it's funny money.

If you mean counterfeit, no. They never would have released the driver.

11 posted on 03/17/2005 5:56:51 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

Very bad.


12 posted on 03/17/2005 6:00:17 PM PST by Flyer (* https://dahtcom.nameservices.net *)
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To: af_vet_1981
I'm simply amazed at how many drug dealers are conservatives.

I am not a drug dealer nor a user but I am conservative.

I don't carry large amounts of cash either. They are talking about seizing amounts as low as $5,000 or $6,000. You are presumed guilty and must prove your innocence. f you accept that as being ok then I am calling your conservatism into question.

13 posted on 03/17/2005 6:01:07 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
"If these forfeiture laws aren't the very definition of tyranny, I don't know what is."

Please elaborate. I think the forfeiture of drug money to be used by agencies is a good thing. It lowers our tax burden and takes the money out of the hands of murderers and thieves. This part of the WOD I have no problem with.
14 posted on 03/17/2005 6:02:15 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

The only time I'm with the ACLU is on these forfeiture laws. But with that gang of leftists, it's at the bottom of their priorities.....after REALLY burning crosses.


15 posted on 03/17/2005 6:03:52 PM PST by Loud Mime (Liberals want good things to happen - - - to the right people)
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To: Graybeard58

"I want to make it clear that the money is no longer here, in case anyone gets
any ideas," Luehmann said.

Uhhh...are they afraid they couldn't protect the stash?


17 posted on 03/17/2005 6:06:03 PM PST by wizr (Freedom ain't free.)
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To: Graybeard58

What makes you think once you prove it is legit you get it back?? There are hundreds of horror stories that have been documented which prove you don't always get it all back. Readers Digest had a long article on this subject. This is a nightmare.


18 posted on 03/17/2005 6:06:10 PM PST by international american (Tagline now fireproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: LightCrusader

Did you read the part where they seize as little as $5,000? I have that much money and if I decide to carry MY money I shouldn't have to prove my innocence.


19 posted on 03/17/2005 6:06:22 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58
We are in Florida, where these seizures are common.

The mid level people from whom the drug money is taken always want a receipt, so they won't be killed for losing the money.

In addition, in order to get it back, all they have to do is show some semblance of documentation that the money was theirs. No one ever claims it.

BTW, most seizures are not random. They come from tips from competing drug dealers.
20 posted on 03/17/2005 6:06:30 PM PST by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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