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Should Democrats run Hillary Clinton for president in 2008? Yes.
Daily Herald ^ | 3/17/05 | Bogdan Kipling

Posted on 03/17/2005 7:13:55 AM PST by anniegetyourgun

"She came, she saw, she conquered."

That's how The Times of India summed up Hillary Clinton's late February visit to the world's second most populous country.

"She prays, she listens, she learns," chimed in Newsday, a Long Island daily.

"If Hillary runs, Hillary wins," said Canada's Halifax Herald in August 1999 about her likely bid for the White House. Her 2000 Senate campaign in New York, the Nova Scotia paper said, was a steppingstone to the presidency.

Energetic, concise language is the striking common denominator in media comments about Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., and her political ambitions. Because she herself is clear and decisive, she is the hottest Democrat in the land. From the nation's television screens to T-shirts, her face is everywhere.

The former first lady had to jump a hurdle or two before she could emerge as a mature, savvy political leader. She had to ease out from public memory the many investigators of White House scandals and her humiliations as the wife of a serial adulterer.

She succeeded spectacularly, and Democrats would be mad not to nominate her in 2008. Here's why:

She can make Americans believe she knows why she wants to be president.

She is focused, disciplined, determined and, yes, flexible. In the Senate, she has positioned herself close to the political center on social issues -- including family values -- and has gained credibility in defense issues.

She has a natural political base among black, Hispanic and labor voters. She is a diligent senator for her New York constituents and is justifiably confident of re-election in 2006.

She is a fantastic fund-raiser, holds a lot of Democratic IOUs and, most important, she is a woman. You would have to be politically tone deaf not to hear American women saying, "It's our turn."

Put that in the context of actual voting patterns, and Hillary's presidential launching pad looks formidable by any measure.

Women already outnumber men in presidential ballots, and Hillary can ginger up a gender vote in 2008.

This could be crucial if Republicans nominate a man. They have a credible woman in Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to match Hillary, but they also have several impressive men.

The opposite is true for Democrats. They have Hillary and she already towers over all other Democratic presidential wannabes. Yes, she outpolled them right up to eve of last year's Democratic convention.

Here it's worth recalling that women voters first outnumbered men in 1984, the year Walter Mondale put Geraldine Ferraro on the presidential ticket.

Ferraro was the first, yet her candidacy was hardly electrifying. But it coincided with profound social shifts. She campaigned for the second-highest office as women's educational achievements and participation rate in the labor force at all levels started making their mark in politics.

The trend continues, however unevenly. For example, 22 million single women didn't bother to vote 16 years later when George W. Bush failed to excite them and Al Gore, though he did better, still bored them to death.

Last year Democrats did even worse and with good reason. Four weeks before the ballot, 21 percent of potential voters answered "don't know" when asked whether they approved or disapproved of Sen. John Kerry, their party's nominee. Six months before the election I Googled the names Kerry and Hamlet -- and got 22,400 hits.

Unlike Kerry, Hillary doesn't ask: To be or not to be? She knows who she is -- and so do voters. She is the Democrats' best chance and they'd be fools to blow it.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; democrats; hillary; hillary2008; presidentialrun; saveamerica; stophillary
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1 posted on 03/17/2005 7:13:56 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

"She knows who she is..."


So do we. That's why she will lose.


2 posted on 03/17/2005 7:17:19 AM PST by SMARTY
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To: anniegetyourgun

I know who she is. She is a sorry SOS and if she would become president we would be doomed.


3 posted on 03/17/2005 7:18:21 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Howlin; Miss Marple; cyncooper; camle; Mo1; GretchenM; BigWaveBetty; Billie; JohnHuang2; ken5050; ..
"She is the Democrats' best chance and they'd be fools to blow it."

Actually, she's their ONLY chance, they are fools, and I pray they blow it.

4 posted on 03/17/2005 7:18:57 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
I can imagine the mass resignations, AWOLs, total lack of new recruits in all branches of the armed forces, and so forth in the unlikely event that The Shrill somehow became CIC.
5 posted on 03/17/2005 7:23:18 AM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Look we cannot write this piece of crap off
The women vote could be all she bloody well needs - a lot of women will vote for her based on her sex sad but ugly truth


6 posted on 03/17/2005 7:24:36 AM PST by DM1
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To: anniegetyourgun
My thinking is that she will have to run two races this far out. She has to run for two years against an unnamed candidate and she will surely win that one, but doubts will creep in as well as Hillary weariness. The second race will come when there is a true challenger and then it gets interesting. If Rove is still running things at all, she is toast. He will play her and her merry band of lesbians for fools and she will lose.
7 posted on 03/17/2005 7:26:57 AM PST by Thebaddog (Dawgs off the coffee table.)
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To: SMARTY

Mrs. Rodham is tremendously popular with the Dem base. She is tremendously unpopular with the Repub base. Although she is a woman I know numerous women of all political stripes who just can't stand her. It is as much a personal animus as a political one.
By the way, has anyone seen the cancelled checks for the payola that the Rodham boys pledged to give back to those pardon supplicants?


8 posted on 03/17/2005 7:28:56 AM PST by Inwoodian
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To: Thebaddog

I wish I had your optimism.....


9 posted on 03/17/2005 7:30:30 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
Absolutely!

Let her run.

I almost get the impression here that FR fears her. I don't. She'll lose.
10 posted on 03/17/2005 7:31:36 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Inwoodian

If you look at DU, the DUmmies largely hate her. They want a fiery left winger to motivate their "base". It never occurred to those fools that their "base" consists of lots of blacks and hispanics who don't care at all about fudgepacker rights.


11 posted on 03/17/2005 7:35:29 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: nmh

> She'll lose.

Just like she lost the NY senate seat in 2000? Do not underestimate that woman.


12 posted on 03/17/2005 7:38:16 AM PST by gonewt
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To: anniegetyourgun

"She knows who she is -- and so do voters."

Bloggers Release Statement on Hillary '08
by Diana in Wisconsin

(2005-03-17)-- The so-called 'blogosphere' today released an official statement on the potential 2008 presidential candidacy of Sen. Hillary Clinton. The complete statement reads as follows:

'Please...Oh, Please...Oh, Please. Heh.'

DEVELOPING...


13 posted on 03/17/2005 7:44:39 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: gonewt

NY is a very blue state.


14 posted on 03/17/2005 7:44:40 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: nmh

You can count me among the ones who are afraid of her.

And we all better be.
Somehow I get that sinking feeling when I think of her running.
Hope I am wrong.
God bless the USA and GWB.


15 posted on 03/17/2005 7:54:20 AM PST by Muscadine
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To: anniegetyourgun

"If Hillary runs, Hillary wins," said Canada's Halifax Herald in August 1999 about her likely bid for the White House." This from our 'Oh soooooo wise" friends up north.
Fix your own messes first eh? Then we can talk.


16 posted on 03/17/2005 7:55:20 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (In dealing with liberals remember When you wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty and he loves it.)
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To: nmh

Yeah...well she was supposed to lose in NY too. Now her poll numbers are there are great despite having done little to nothing for New York. So many stupid people out there...and they forget. If we continue the trend in the ME, how many people are going to think we need a strong man in the WH? I'm afraid they'll think its time to relax, have some fun, go back to the good ol Clinton days.


17 posted on 03/17/2005 8:02:53 AM PST by Aria
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To: anniegetyourgun
Here it's worth recalling that women voters first outnumbered men in 1984, the year Walter Mondale put Geraldine Ferraro on the presidential ticket.

Ummm .. Isn't that the year that President Reagan won 49 States???

18 posted on 03/17/2005 8:06:25 AM PST by Mo1 (Question to the Media/Press ... Why are you hiding the Eason Jordan tapes ????)
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To: anniegetyourgun

I wonder what these paragons of urinalism said about the Bush-Kerry race. I'd research it, but I just don't care...


19 posted on 03/17/2005 8:08:51 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired...)
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To: anniegetyourgun
Hillary Clinton's Former Campaign Finance Director Indicted

January 7, 2005

excerpt:

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's former finance director has been indicted on charges of filing fictitious reports that misstated contributions for a Hollywood fund-raising gala for the senator, the Justice Department said Friday.

~snip~

20 posted on 03/17/2005 8:23:01 AM PST by cyncooper
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