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Boeing CEO choice will impact company's reputation, stability
Wichita Business Journal via MSNBC ^ | 7:00 p.m. ET March 13, 2005 | Ken Vandruff

Posted on 03/15/2005 6:18:27 PM PST by Paleo Conservative

No matter who is chosen, Tiahrt says, the new CEO will have to work hard to win over opponents like Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who continues to criticize Boeing's offer to sell KC-767 refueling tankers to the Air Force.

"He seems to be very prejudiced toward Boeing and intent on seeing that they are punished for some unknown reason," Tiahrt says.

Farmer says Stonecipher's resignation will put Boeing under increased scrutiny.

"It's a matter of damage control and continuing to be serious about it," Farmer says.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: Illinois; US: Missouri; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: boeing; mccain; stonecipher
"He seems to be very prejudiced toward Boeing and intent on seeing that they are punished for some unknown reason," Tiahrt says.

Well wasn't McCain flying a Douglas A-4 Skyhawk when he was shot down over Vietnam? Douglas was bought by McDonnel to form McDonnell-Douglas. Then in 1997 Boeing bought McDonnell-Douglas.

1 posted on 03/15/2005 6:18:27 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

So McCain would rather have our tankers built by Airbus in France, whose government would love to see us fall? He is so unpatriotic!


2 posted on 03/15/2005 6:22:48 PM PST by wk4bush2004
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To: Paleo Conservative
...Boeing's offer to sell KC-767 refueling tankers...

As I recall, it was a lease that was offered, at a price nearing twice the normal purchase price.

3 posted on 03/15/2005 6:25:03 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: wk4bush2004

McCain is a bozo. The Boeing airtanker is already fully developed and ready for sale. The Airbus one hasn't even been designed yet. Whaaaat a goober.


4 posted on 03/15/2005 6:25:28 PM PST by Righty_McRight
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To: DuncanWaring

The Air Force would never buy from Airbus. Boeing's products are far superior.

Unless (I hope not) that some politicians might try to find a way to mend relations with the EU by allowing Airbus to win the contract. That would be dispicable.


5 posted on 03/15/2005 6:30:16 PM PST by wk4bush2004
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To: DuncanWaring
As I recall, it was a lease that was offered, at a price nearing twice the normal purchase price.

The normal purchase price of what? A civilian 767 or a tanker? Supposedly the idea was that the USAF could get the planes quicker, and that all the deveolopment cost would be borne by Boeing.

6 posted on 03/15/2005 6:30:42 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (I Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Righty_McRight; wk4bush2004
McCain is a bozo. The Boeing airtanker is already fully developed and ready for sale. The Airbus one hasn't even been designed yet. Whaaaat a goober.

And Boeing's tails don't have a tendency to fall off during flight either.

7 posted on 03/15/2005 6:31:56 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (I Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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Not to mention that Airbus planes do not allow the pilot to override the computer in an emergency. That's dangerous. I refuse to fly on an Airbus.


8 posted on 03/15/2005 6:33:06 PM PST by wk4bush2004
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To: DuncanWaring
As I recall, it was a lease that was offered, at a price nearing twice the normal purchase price.

If I were par of the USAF brass I would GLADLY pay twice the price for Boeings than buy airbus pieces of sh!t made in france.

9 posted on 03/15/2005 6:33:52 PM PST by Paul_Denton (The UN is UN-American! Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN!)
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And Boeing's tails don't have a tendency to fall off during flight either

beat me to it. That WOULD add a new thrill to the refueling procedures.

10 posted on 03/15/2005 6:34:23 PM PST by digger48
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To: Paleo Conservative
As I recall, a 767 normally runs $125 million; the KC-767s were closer to $200 million.

It can't cost $50 million or $75 million to hang a boom and put in a few more fuel tanks (Boeing already knows how to do those things).

11 posted on 03/16/2005 3:48:00 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
hang a boom and put in a few more fuel tanks (Boeing already knows how to do those things).

Don't be so sure of that....

12 posted on 03/17/2005 10:18:14 AM PST by Cogadh na Sith (--Scots Gaelic: "War or Peace...."--)
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To: Cogadh na Sith
Well, they used to know.

Maybe they can reverse-engineer a -135.

13 posted on 03/17/2005 10:44:11 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
And it was the a--holes from MD who almost ran the company into the ground. The good news is that the CEO will either be Alan Mulally (lifelong Boeing employee) or an outsider. My bet is on the latter right now, based on "inside information" that I can't disclose.

I was not a fan of the last generation of Douglas's management. They were just lucky that the MD-11, specifically its sale to FedEx and a few Asian carriers, kept them alive those last few years.

14 posted on 03/17/2005 10:47:48 AM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: wk4bush2004
The Air Force would never buy from Airbus. Boeing's products are far superior.

Generally, I would agree with you, although the A320 compares favorably with the 737.

15 posted on 03/17/2005 10:48:59 AM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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But the 737 is faster, has lower maintenance costs, and is more valuable than the A320.


16 posted on 03/17/2005 11:13:46 AM PST by wk4bush2004
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