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The 9th Circus strikes again. It's significant that even back in the 1940s, the Soviet code name for San Francisco was "Babylon."
1 posted on 03/15/2005 5:53:44 PM PST by srm913
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Actually, the 9th Circus..err.. Circuit had nothing to do with it.

Richard Kramer is a state judge, not a federal judge.

2 posted on 03/15/2005 5:59:44 PM PST by Frohickey
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"Kramer...practiced civil law in San Francisco before the then-governor Pete Wilson named him to the bench"

That explains a lot.

3 posted on 03/15/2005 6:01:24 PM PST by calcowgirl
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No, I believe it was Gamorah. or was it Sodom... whaterer.. it's San Fran Syphilisco now...


5 posted on 03/15/2005 6:06:05 PM PST by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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Yup. That was the first questioned asked of him at the event in San Jose last month. Rush is right.

We are sooooooooooooooooo screwed.

6 posted on 03/15/2005 6:08:09 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture (America works best without union pests --- UNION NO!)
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Being the blueist of the blue states we are screwed more often than a Thai hooker on nickle nicht.


7 posted on 03/15/2005 6:09:47 PM PST by Natural Law
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Last thing I remember
I was running for the door
I had to find the passage back to the place I was before
Relax said the nightman
We are programed to recieve
You can check out any time you like
But you can never leave

Welcome to the hotel California


8 posted on 03/15/2005 6:10:49 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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While I appreciate your frustration over such a stupid and wrong court decision, you have your facts wrong. The decision did not come from a federal court (the 9th circuit), it didn't come from the California Supreme court and it wasn't even a state appellate court, it was just an insignificant county superior court.

--Boot Hill

9 posted on 03/15/2005 6:11:10 PM PST by Boot Hill ("...and Josuha went unto him and said: art thou for us, or for our adversaries?")
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If the judge can find no rational purpose for limiting marriage in this state to opposite-sex partners, then what is the rational basis for limiting marriage in this state to:

-only two people?

-only human-human partners?

-only adults?

-only people outside one's immediate family?

12 posted on 03/15/2005 6:15:12 PM PST by Johnstone (carpe diem)
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I love California. Living here I can see it lives up to its reputation as a laboratory of nutzo liberal theories and a lesson to the rest of the country in what exactly to avoid. I congratulate Judge Richard Kramer for enlightening the American people. These liberals and their pet judges just keep making our job easier. As I said, I love California! (laughing)

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
13 posted on 03/15/2005 6:19:16 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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23 posted on 03/15/2005 6:58:04 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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What happened to the Constitutional Amendment?


26 posted on 03/15/2005 7:07:34 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.)
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Got this today from a friend:

The Republicans should back off and let men marry men; women marry women, and totally legalize abortion. In three generations there will be no Democrats.

34 posted on 03/15/2005 7:31:27 PM PST by SouthTexas
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Like I said before, this County judge will get bitch-slapped by the State appellate court soon enough. (But then again, perhaps he's into that sort of thing.)
38 posted on 03/15/2005 8:36:50 PM PST by Redcloak (There is no "I" in team. But then again, there is no "us" in it either. There is "meat" however.)
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It's significant that even back in the 1940s, the Soviet code name for San Francisco was "Babylon."

Maybe not significant, but certainly indicative. Herb Caen dubbed it, "Baghdad by the Bay" a decade before that.

39 posted on 03/15/2005 8:38:00 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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Something just occurred to me from this ruling...

First off, we keep hearing over and over again from leftists, that there is a wall of seperation between "church and state."

At the same time, this court states that there's a "right" for homosexuals to marry. This begs the question, where to rights come from?

I've never actually heard this addressed by any leftists, although I've heard some mumble something about how "government gives people rights." But if that's the case, then governments can take those rights away just as easily (which has been seen over and over again during just the last 100 years).

Worse, it is contrary to the two founding documents of the United States of America: The Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution.

From the Declaration of Independence: " We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

This states, in no uncertain terms, that rights come from G-d, NOT FROM GOVERNMENTS! These rights are unalienable, meaning that the government should NOT be able to take those rights away (although that never stopped any government that wanted to do so... After all, they tend to have the biggest and best guns).

" --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, "

This flatly states that governments are formed by men, and therefore, did not exist before their formation. Taking this a step further, if you believe that rights come from governments, you must then believe that without governments, we have no rights.

This ruling asserts that there's a "right" to homosexual mariage. But if that right comes from G-d, then G-d must be in favor of homosexual mariage. But the Bible doesn't support that at all. But then, according to these same people who support that "right," the Bible has no place in government.

So, they are specifically contradicting the intent of the Declaration of Independence.

Another important thing to think of is how the judicial branch is usurping the power of the legislative and executive branches of government, in a direct contradiction of both the Constitution (which lays out exactly what the governemt - and each branch - is allowed to do) and the Declaration of Independence: "--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, " This ruling specifically contradicts the consent of the governed!

Mark

44 posted on 03/15/2005 9:09:10 PM PST by MarkL (Brain cells come, and brain cells go, but fat cells live forever!)
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Bump.


52 posted on 03/15/2005 9:50:12 PM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("He's uptight and occasionally contrived." Mike Wallace on Dan Rather)
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Until Republican professional politicians stop acting like the Democrats have control of castrating them, we are screwed.

A power shift of just 5=7% will make major differences in California.


57 posted on 03/16/2005 12:33:09 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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As these "judges" reap so they will sow.

Evil actions under the guise of justice is particularly offensive to the Creator.
58 posted on 03/16/2005 12:33:22 AM PST by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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doesn't bother me or effett my marraige one bit. But thanx for looking out for what you think are my interests.


63 posted on 03/16/2005 9:08:42 AM PST by bigsigh
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