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Qaeda Ally May Target U.S. Theaters, Schools -Report
Reuters via Netscape.com ^ | 03/14/2005 | Reuters

Posted on 03/14/2005 10:59:17 AM PST by RockinRight

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, al Qaeda's chief ally in Iraq, may be planning attacks on "soft targets" in the United States including movie theaters, restaurants and schools, Time magazine reported on Sunday. White House national security adviser Stephen Hadley would not discuss the specific warning, which Time said was circulated among U.S. security agencies last week in a restricted bulletin. But he said the administration was concerned about reports -- "which we think are very credible" -- that Zarqawi is working more closely with Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda organization. Hadley said movie theaters, restaurants and schools "are the kinds of targets we know that al Qaeda has traditionally been concerned about." "But we, at this point sitting here, do not have evidence of a specific operation by Zarqawi's organization targeting those kinds of targets. We just don't have that kind of information at this point," Hadley told CNN's "Late Edition." The warning comes two weeks after President Bush, in a rare public mention of the mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, said stopping bin Laden from a new attack on U.S. soil was "the greatest challenge of our day." Time said the bulletin was based on the interrogation of a member of Zarqawi's organization. It cited Zarqawi's belief that "if an individual has enough money, he can bribe his way into the U.S.," by obtaining a visa to Honduras and then traveling across Mexico and the southern U.S. border.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; illegalaliens; jihadinamerica; koranimals; murderers; religionofpeace; religionofpieces; scumbags; softtargets; targets; terrorists; trop; waronterror; zarqawi
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To: 1stFreedom

"Hmm, another reason to stay away from the movies..."

Also another advantage of home schooling.


101 posted on 03/14/2005 3:58:10 PM PST by ran15
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To: ran15

Also another reason for the original intent of the 2d amendment not to be infringed.
Just like it says.


102 posted on 03/14/2005 4:02:12 PM PST by chuckwalla (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: ran15

Also another reason for the original intent of the 2d amendment not to be infringed.
Just like it says.


103 posted on 03/14/2005 4:03:11 PM PST by chuckwalla (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: RockinRight

A lot of cops I know call attacking a school a nightmare scenario. The event itself of course. But after the fact- they know they would be outgunned and powerless to stop people from taking matters into there own hands.


104 posted on 03/14/2005 4:09:42 PM PST by Fire137 (If this is not a war I don't know what one is)
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To: r9etb
Because that's what the fellow was suggesting.

I seem to have lost the thread of the conversation, which fellow?

105 posted on 03/14/2005 4:22:48 PM PST by null and void (Every problem has a solution that is simple, seductive, and wrong...)
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To: A Navy Vet
There are 25 State Defense Forces (official militias) who are not restricted by posse comitatus act; over dozens and dozens of self-proclaimed militias (many neo-Nazi types); thousands of veterans in their twilight years; hundreds of sanctioned neighborhood watches; 10's of millions of gun-owners; not to mention the spontaneous clandestine groups that would spring up overnight.

I hope you're right. But what I've observed is that 80 million gun owners do not an army make. And that's what we're talking about. An army. Or, at the very least, a militia, as you point out.

Frankly, I was astonished at the lack of outrage in the days and weeks following 9/11. How hard to we have to get hit? This was worse than Pearl Harbor. And within a short time, things were back to business as usual.

No, I don't see the good people of America sitting by quietly to enjoy the Israeli experience.

Again, I hope your take on this is accurate. But I don't think we'll take it as well as the Israelis. I was in Israel last summer -- admittedly during one of their quiet periods, thank God -- and everyone, and I mean everyone, has a weapon at their disposal. They have a very sober and clear understanding of what it means for every citizen to be a soldier. We don't.

If we get hit again, we'll hear the same litany from the Dems about how we really deserved it, the same hollow saber-rattling from the Pubbies about carrying the fight to the enemy and closing the borders. And then nothing will happen.

And if there are actions taken by individual citizens, look for private ownership of firearms to be abolished. It's a sure bet if the libs control the White House and the Congress, and more than likely if the Pubbies run things. Just remember, GWB pledged to sign the AWB renewal into law if it ever got to his desk. We can thank the House for doing the dirty work of letting it die on the vine. GWB is no friend of the Second Amendment, all flashy rhetoric to the contrary.

It would get messy. It may take more than once, but after that, all bets are off.

I thought the same thing after 9/11. How many times must we get hit, and how high must the body count get before the governing authorities realize that securing the borders, and national sovereignty is more important than all the cheap illegal immigrant labor for multinational corporations?

Apparently not yet.

106 posted on 03/14/2005 10:26:58 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: sgtbono2002

HUA !


109 posted on 03/14/2005 10:38:05 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: r9etb
Ahhh... The old ignore the point trick. The old moral equivalence trick. The old I couldn't respond to other points without looking like an idiot so Ill try to be funny to distract attention gambit! (advice - leave comedy to the professionals)

Okay. Ill answer your doltish questions.

First the Germans and the National socialist German workers party ( Nazi's for short ). No, they were not justified in bombing england. Their cause was not just. Who determines what is a just cause? The victor of course. Do you really wish for the islamakazis and the f@#k-nut muslims to determine which cause was just?

Now to the Japanese... This one is a bit more difficult as I am not well versed on chinese and Japanese history, its possible that china may have had it coming. My official position on this though is that it was not justified do to the unjustness of the Japanese cause. As determined by whom
???? Thats right! you got it! the winners...

Well how could that be fair? Why do the winners get to determine what was just or not? Thats just the way it is.

Make no mistakes on this, islam (muslims) started this war and we will finish it. They can choose to surrender and cease hostilities forever (which means they would need to either disown the Koran(sp?) or edit large portions of it out) OR we can become so brutal (indiscriminately killing the practitioners of islam everywhere) that there are NONE left with the will to fight. Kinda like what we did to japan to end WWII without the need of invading and sacrificing thousands more Americans. If these f@#kers decide to start killing at schools, malls, theaters here in the US, you can bet your paycheck that the majority of Americans will agree with me. They will be demanding the blood of muslims and they will be justified. The "last crusade" started by the muslims will end in their complete and total destruction.

They still have time to choose though, and I sincerely hope they choose peaceful coexistence.
110 posted on 03/15/2005 5:14:21 AM PST by myself6 (Nazi = socialist , democrat=socialist , therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: Euro-American Scum
To answer the point of your question?

What will it take?


For every American to feel threatened. For every American to lose that sense of security that comes with being an American. Americans will commit brutal acts to regain that security and they are justified in doing it.

schools, malls, theaters, etc... kids are in these places in large numbers. Just imagine your child being killed by one of these muslims or imagine that you were afraid to send your child anywhere or go anywhere for fear of possible attack by muslims. Imagine the majority of Americans with this same fear. Civility towards muslims will disappear.

The more brutal acts will be in the southern states and they will be effective in insuring no further attacks in their areas. Once people in the northern states begin to hear of the effectiveness of the "redneck" tactics they will begin to employ them as well (they love their families and security more than they hate killing).

This is my prediction of what will happen here in the US if the islamakazis go after such targets.
111 posted on 03/15/2005 5:34:15 AM PST by myself6 (Nazi = socialist , democrat=socialist , therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: null and void

That would be you, with your comment on "you, your family, and many many many others," followed by the helpful suggestion that they should be killed before they had a chance to answer the question.


112 posted on 03/15/2005 6:36:01 AM PST by r9etb
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To: chuckwalla
I ASK AGAIN WHAT IS YOUR SOLUTION TO THE WAR ON TERRORISM?

FIRST: STOP SHOUTING STUPID QUESTIONS AND PRETENDING YOU'RE IMPORTANT

Second: Realize that we're not going to kill all 1 billion Muslims, nor do we need to. They're not all our enemies.

Third: Recognize the strategy of the bad guys, which is to start an all-out religious war. They want us to start treating all Muslims as part of the "bad guy" crowd, so that the Muslim world will respond in kind. (You and your bloodthirsty pals are playing right into bin Laden's hands.)

Fourth: Recognizing that strategy, our counter-strategy should be to isolate the bad guys from the vast majority of Muslims. This has two components: a) hunt down and kill the bad guys; b) help the rest of the Muslim world to escape the clutches of the bastards who are using them. The present strategy of the Bush Administration is doing both, and it's bearing fruit.

Your oh-so-practical approach of finding ways to justify mass killing is precisely the wrong thing to do. All you're doing is creating enemies. That's stupid.

113 posted on 03/15/2005 6:45:59 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Chef Dajuan

Horse manure. You're thinking like a bigot. Not only that, you're making sure that the number of THEM is as big as possible. What a stupid thing to do.


114 posted on 03/15/2005 6:48:25 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb
Ah! I though so. Let me clarify that.

I'm merely making an observation on what I believe will happen if they succeed in pushing even a small fraction of Americans over the edge.

I am not advocating, promoting, or supporting citizen-on-citizen violence.

Indeed, I am suggesting a way it can be avoided, IF the good and decent møøselimbs chose wisely and warn us before the event[s].

I know such exist, I'm just having extreme difficulty finding them in any numbers much above single digits.

With luck, a few will speak up and save their fellows from a bloodbath the likes of which this country has never seen.

God Himself was willing to spare Soddom: "For the sake of ten, I will not destroy it."

I suppose islam deserves no less...

115 posted on 03/15/2005 6:57:29 AM PST by null and void (Every problem has a solution that is simple, seductive, and wrong...)
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To: myself6
islam (muslims) started this war and we will finish it.

Ah, now you're really talking like a nazi. Blaming an entire religion for the actions of a few. How pleasing.

"Islam" didn't start this war. Some Islamic fanatics started it, and they're the ones who need killing.

Perhaps you should start thinking outside the reptile part of your brain, and recognize that most Muslims are not interested in what the terrorists have to sell. The events in Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, and even the Palestinian Authority are evidence that, given a chance at freedom, and some protection against the bad guys who'd stop them from achieving it, "even" Muslims will reach for it.

The trick is to isolate the bad guys, and to help the good guys. The thing you do not want to do, is to increase the number of bad guys by taking a page out of the fascist playbook.

116 posted on 03/15/2005 6:58:51 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb
Second: Realize that we're not going to kill all 1 billion Muslims, nor do we need to. They're not all our enemies.

Ultimately we will need to either die ourselves, or kill 'enough' møøselimbs so that their survivors get the message and become good neighbors, spreading islam by battles on the field of ideas, not by the sword.

'Enough' is any number between 1 and 1.2 billion. They can stop us at any number by repudiating conversion at the point of a gun...

117 posted on 03/15/2005 7:09:07 AM PST by null and void (Every problem has a solution that is simple, seductive, and wrong...)
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To: r9etb
This has two components: a) hunt down and kill the bad guys; b) help the rest of the Muslim world to escape the clutches of the bastards who are using them. The present strategy of the Bush Administration is doing both, and it's bearing fruit.

Bingo!

Unfortunately the basturds only hope for their own personal survival is to drag the rest of islam into the fray.

All the 1.2 billion need to do to get killed is nothing. Their mullets mullahs will be standing hiding right behind them...

118 posted on 03/15/2005 7:14:58 AM PST by null and void (Every problem has a solution that is simple, seductive, and wrong...)
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To: r9etb
Oh, and they need to break America's willingness to stay the course Bush has pioneered.

They can do thing by pouring enough of our children's blood on the streets.

Or more accurately, the blood of the children of their American cheerleaders.

If the møøselimbs target the children of the liberal media, Ithaca, Berkeley, and other lib-uh-rhul gods, all bets are off. We won't have anyone trying to hold us back.
119 posted on 03/15/2005 7:21:37 AM PST by null and void (Every problem has a solution that is simple, seductive, and wrong...)
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To: 5Madman2

No problem-happy to help people stay out of unecessary trouble.


Thanks! I've had no reason to carry around a loaded firearm, but shootin' off my mouth without the facts could sure get someone else in trouble!


120 posted on 03/15/2005 7:22:49 AM PST by hushpad (There is no more Slippery Slope. The Judiciary already passed it a few miles back.)
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