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Death by Medicine (Does modern medicine kill more than it cures?)
http://www.mercola.com/2003/nov/26/death_by_medicine.htm ^

Posted on 03/14/2005 3:25:09 AM PST by Humblebum

By Gary Null PhD, Carolyn Dean MD ND, Martin Feldman MD, Debora Rasio MD, Dorothy Smith PhD

ABSTRACT

A definitive review and close reading of medical peer-review journals, and government health statistics shows that American medicine frequently causes more harm than good. The number of people having in-hospital, adverse drug reactions (ADR) to prescribed medicine is 2.2 million.1 Dr. Richard Besser, of the CDC, in 1995, said the number of unnecessary antibiotics prescribed annually for viral infections was 20 million. Dr. Besser, in 2003, now refers to tens of millions of unnecessary antibiotics.2, 2a

The number of unnecessary medical and surgical procedures performed annually is 7.5 million.3 The number of people exposed to unnecessary hospitalization annually is 8.9 million.4 The total number of iatrogenic deaths shown in the following table is 783,936. It is evident that the American medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the United States. The 2001 heart disease annual death rate is 699,697; the annual cancer death rate, 553,251.5

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To: Humblebum

"Big Medicine" will likely send its well paid shills in here to spin this thing into a liberal plot.

The Pharmaceutical companies are the gods of our medical gurus who get really nice trips to beautiful spots as a reward for putting their patients on all kinds of nice meds for life. Meds for which now ones grandchldren will still be paying when we die courtesy of the recent government plan to reward Big Pharma.

Doctors used to be scientists. These days they are largely not that at all. They are pill prescribers who go by the charts or CD Roms put out by their pharmaceutical masters who only make money if they can sell pills. And it is big money!

The fact that the pills can also kill does not matter. Life is cheap. The same person who fights for an embryo will also blythely submit his parent for whatever Big Pharma wants to do and get paid for.

Thanks for the intersting article by people who are not liberals, although the label will be attached as part of the attack mode. They are for old line type physicians who still believe the "first, do no harm" thing that went out with Big Pharma's control of the current system.

There will never be a cure for cancer because many more people are supported by (have a vested interest in) the "cancer industry" than have cancer. And the public pays the bill for the "cut, burn and poison" crowd. It is why you can't afford health care, likely one of the more merciful things that is happening these days.

Until you know someone who has died of the radiation poisoning supposed to "cure" their cancer, you haven't really experienced the wonder of the current system.

Where credit is often due, however, is to our emergency medicine people. If one is scrupulously careful and has an on site overseer (third party) for one's medical care to refuse the obscene and habit forming and to require that the attending nurses and physician wash their hands before examinations, etc. You can get out of hospital without the killing staph etc., etc., etc.

Lots of the wealthy go elsewhere for the real deal medicine if they have the brains and the time to put into "nosing out" what is available elsewhere.


21 posted on 03/14/2005 5:52:05 AM PST by Spirited (God, Bless America)
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To: rlmorel

"said the number of unnecessary antibiotics prescribed annually for viral infections was 20 million"

This is true though.

Methinks too many people think because they have insurance med care is "free" so they take advanage of it every chance they get adding to the rising cost of insurance?

Conversely, doctors over prescibe tests, medication etc in an effort to cover their behinds from malpractice suits.


22 posted on 03/14/2005 5:59:08 AM PST by Smartaleck
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To: Nitro

"In other words, we need certain germs and filth to live."

And in small doses over a period of time builds up our immunity system.


23 posted on 03/14/2005 6:00:28 AM PST by Smartaleck
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To: Humblebum
"long article, click the link to read"

No.

24 posted on 03/14/2005 6:01:21 AM PST by verity (The Liberal Media and the ACLU are America's Enemies)
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To: Wingy
I do believe modern medicine does a good job of treating trauma and accidents. That may be accounting for some of the increased longevity. As far as treating chronic illness, they're miserable failures and I have specific reasons to feel the way I do. If you want to read one of the longest posts you've ever read, I'll tell you about it. I have 3 nephews that are doctors. One sister has two sons who are medical doctors and she searches out alternative medical doctors. What does that tell you?

Medical doctors only know how to write prescriptions for very dangerous, addicting drugs. These drugs have done more harm than good.

25 posted on 03/14/2005 6:02:01 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: freepatriot32

Similarly, I recall a poll recently where 80% of doctors and nurses polled said they had seen or witnessed the ineptness or recklessness of others.


26 posted on 03/14/2005 6:02:25 AM PST by Smartaleck
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

"They don't have a clue what they're doing."

Were this true, people wouldn't be living longer.


27 posted on 03/14/2005 6:04:05 AM PST by Smartaleck
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To: Humblebum

Abortion's a "medical procedure," right? You can add 44 million more fatalities to the list.


28 posted on 03/14/2005 6:05:08 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: docapple

Paragraphs are our friend. :-)


29 posted on 03/14/2005 6:05:57 AM PST by Smartaleck
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To: Humblebum
A definitive review and close reading of medical peer-review journals, and government health statistics shows that American medicine frequently causes more harm than good.

What a total absolute lie. Opinion stated as fact - I see a future for these PhDs in working for the government in the EPA or maybe working on "global warming"

35 years ago the mean survival time from the development of angina to death was 7 years. Now people live a lot longer with things like CABG and angioplasty. Try seeing how many kids would actually die from childhood infections without modern antibiotics. Morons like the ones who wrote this shouldn't be allowed to breed.

30 posted on 03/14/2005 6:08:39 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: Smartaleck

I repeat, they only know how to write prescriptions for very dangerous, addictive drugs.


31 posted on 03/14/2005 6:09:53 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: katya8
I have had some experience with the silver particle solutions. One thing to take note of, both from lab testing results and from my own personal experience; the method by which the silver particle impedes or otherwise vanquishes biological bugs is by virtue of its electrical charge. Think of the infected area as a battlefield. The silver particles are your army of champions. For your army to be effective, you want lots of soldiers for sure. You also want them to have a good soldier to enemy kill ratio.

Say you finally have your big army and a good soldier to enemy kill ratio. For your army to win the war(not just a single battle) you must keep them on the field of battle until ALL of the enemies have been eliminated or until such time as your army receives reinforcements from the locals (your own immune system).

What I am saying is that for this 'particular army' to be effective, you must keep the solution on the effected area for some length of time. Using a cotton ball or like material to keep a steady of supply of soldiers at the ready is the most effective to win the war. Most people don't realize this and most vendors do not give any information relative to effective application. They just sell the army and tell you why their army is the best one on the planet. It may be true that a better army will do a better job in a shorter period of time. However, this a fierce ground battle and ground battles aren't over in nanoseconds... :^)

People are all different, wounds are different and the healing time may vary. It has been my experience that immersion for 90 to 120 seconds works well. Repeating the treatment two to three times a day is also good. However, many people do not want to do this and so..... out comes something to slap on during the commercial.

Also, I only use this as a topical solution.

32 posted on 03/14/2005 6:10:17 AM PST by Mobilemitter (We must learn to fin >-)> for ourselves..........)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
I see very few success stories from patients going to medical doctors.

It's probably because success stories are not news. I'm one, but why would you expect to see my sory in print / online?

33 posted on 03/14/2005 6:13:08 AM PST by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right ; Sig Sauer is my equalizer)
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To: dimmer-rats stealvotes
Chemotherapy is POISON.

Well, yeah. It kills the fastest growing cells (i.e. the ones that are growing out of control - the cancer cells). Does it kill other fast growing cells? Yes, that's why people are prone to vomiting, lose their hair, etc. There's a fine line between too much of a chemo drug and too little.

Of course, the strides they have made in the last 20 years are mind blowing, in terms targeted chemo, etc.

Signed, a childhood cancer survivor

34 posted on 03/14/2005 6:18:08 AM PST by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right ; Sig Sauer is my equalizer)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
What does that tell you?

It tells me that you don't have a clue.

Medical doctors only know how to write prescriptions for very dangerous, addicting drugs. These drugs have done more harm than good

Total BS I hope you never get a wound infection or pneumonia or something else that needs to be treated with antibiotics, because I'm just sure you'll turn the drugs down and heal on your own.

Sell your line of nonsense to somebody who's never been sick, because they're the only ones who might fall for it.

35 posted on 03/14/2005 6:28:00 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: JusPasenThru
Personally....I changed my eating habits totally a few yrs ago....no sugar, booze, processed food etc. I'm 5'4" 114lbs. now and feel great...I only take vitamins and several supplements...it's actually life changing. Drugs have sooo many side effects...they're a killer. Living without a quality of life is not worth living.

Actually the KEY to HEALTH is WHAT FOOD you put into your body.

36 posted on 03/14/2005 6:32:09 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: DocH
" Maybe it is because doctors, medicine, and medical instruments, are, in large part, more helpful and useful to society than they are detrimental. Isn't that true of guns and gun owners too?"

Exactly so. Like so many other things, they must be evaluated honestly on the basis of costs versus benefits.

As for modern medicine, if it wasn't for that, I would be dead at least three times already.

And the same can be said for my firearms.

37 posted on 03/14/2005 6:52:39 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: Humblebum
Death by Medicine (Does modern medicine kill more than it cures?)

The answer to that can be seen by retrospective review of life expectancy before and after the advent of "modern medicine".

LIFE EXPECTANCY, UNITED STATES ... 1850 - 1990

In 1850, the life expectancy of a newborn white male was 38.3 years.

In 1900, after germ theory and anesthetics were established, the life expectancy of a newborn white male was 48.2 years.

In 1930, the life expectancy of a newborn white male was 59.1 years.

In 1960, the life expectancy of a newborn white male was 67.5 years.

In 1990, after the advent of antibiotics, heart surgery, advanced imaging technology, etc., the life expectancy of a newborn white male was 72.9 years.

The author takes the point of view that any adverse effect of medicine, and not the cancer or infection or the trauma, is the immediate cause of death and therefore to blame. Such a position assumes that, if a Fire Department arrives at a burning 100 story building filled with 1000 people and cannot save 250 of those people because their ladders and helicopter fleet are inadequate to such a task or CPR failed in a certain number of victims, then the Fire Department is to blame for those 250 deaths.

I am willing to establish a prospective study in order to generate data for the next 40 years. If the author or anyone else wants to volunteer for the "No Modern Medicine" control group, contact me via Freep Mail.

38 posted on 03/14/2005 6:56:56 AM PST by Polybius
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To: rlmorel

Joe Mercola no less. I spent a day with him this year at his "clinic" inthe western suburbs. He was pretty strange. He's spending hours with patients, very well heeled patients! Only! We are talking thousands of dollars for the OV, the tests and all the supplemnts. We had lunch brought in; weird stuff! He was looking at a partnership, I was looking for the door. He had his mantra down pat. Everybody got the entire sob story, poor Joe!


39 posted on 03/14/2005 7:02:30 AM PST by STD (Last Action Hero)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

"I repeat, they only know how to write prescriptions for very dangerous, addictive drugs."

Yeah right.


40 posted on 03/14/2005 7:08:45 AM PST by Smartaleck
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