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Another View: Let gay men give blood (Barf Alert)
The Union Leader ^ | March 13, 2005 | NICHOLAS CHRISTIANSEN

Posted on 03/13/2005 3:16:21 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks

I AM writing in response to a Sunday News editorial, "Education lacking: UNH Senate AIDS issue shows it," that was published Feb. 27. As the author of the UNH Senate Resolution that the editorial referred to, I feel obligated to respond and clear up some of the apparent confusion among the editorial staff.

The current FDA regulation banning any man who has had sex with another man at any time since 1977 from donating blood were instituted in the early 1980s as a precaution against the spread of the HIV virus and AIDS through the blood supply. It was the correct decision at the time. In the climate of fear and uncertainty about this deadly infection, the authorities had no other choice but to err on the side of safety.

Today, however, the scientific knowledge and understanding of HIV and how it spreads has advanced. The FDA policy of banning sexually active gay men for life from donating blood is not backed up by science. There is no scientific, medical or ethical justification for the ban.

What once seemed like a necessary precaution has become a discriminatory practice perpetuating the bigotry and prejudice that sexually active gay men are somehow a danger and a threat to the rest of society. Add to this that it is medically counterproductive at a time when the country is facing increasing threats from blood shortages.

Contrary to what was stated in the editorial, the Red Cross is the only major blood donation organization to oppose any change in the FDA policy. In fact, the largest blood donation organization in the country, America's Blood Centers, as well as the American Association of Blood Banks, support changing the current policy. With today's effective screening procedures of blood donors and testing of all donated blood, every major blood donor organization in the country, except for the Red Cross, supports a change in policy to a one-year deferral as opposed to a lifetime ban, and some scientists advocate for a two-week deferral for male homosexual blood donors.

FDA statistics estimate that approximately 10 units of tainted blood slip through the blood banks each year, potentially infecting one to two people per year. If the FDA changed its policy to a one-year deferral on men who have had sex with another man since 1977, the FDA predicts that over 62,300 more men would donate blood, while an additional three units of tainted blood would slip through the blood supply.

If 10 units of blood potentially infects one to two people per year, then 13 units would potentially infect one to three people, while over 176,000 more people would potentially be protected from the dangers of blood shortages.

If the FDA truly wanted the safest blood supply possible, it would require all donors to be asked about safe sex practices. The real high risk factor for contracting HIV, gay or straight, is unsafe sex.

Being gay and having safe homosexual sex does not put you at any more risk of HIV than being straight and having safe heterosexual sex. With the current policy, a straight man can have unsafe sex with dozens of women and still donate blood, while a gay man who has had sex with a monogamous partner just once in the past 28 years can never give blood.

The Student Senate of the University of New Hampshire supports scientifically based filters on blood donation to make the blood banks as safe as possible, while eliminating practices that are discriminatory and counterproductive.

The editorial accused me of pushing a gay agenda. Even though this issue does affect gay people, it is an issue of fundamental civil rights and sensible health policies. That is not a gay agenda but an American agenda. It is for everyone who needed blood but couldn't get it because the Red Cross supports turning away thousands of perfectly healthy donors at their doors just because the donors have engaged in gay sex.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aids; blooddonation; grid; health; hellno; hiv; homosexualagenda; ohhellno; redcross
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1 posted on 03/13/2005 3:16:22 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: little jeremiah; DirtyHarryY2K; EdReform
WTF? OMG!
2 posted on 03/13/2005 3:18:05 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Being gay and having safe homosexual sex does not put you at any more risk of HIV than being straight and having safe heterosexual sex.

Get off your soapbox and enter the reality world. Heterosexuals DO NOT want blood from homosexuals. I say again, DO NOT want blood from homosexuals. You may start your own blood bank but we don't want the heterosexual blood banks contamintated.


4 posted on 03/13/2005 3:22:00 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Yeah, this has been all over the news here in NH.

By definition, college students are sophomoric and advocate silly things.

That being said, I'm all in favor of gays donating blood.

So long as it's earmarked for receipt by other homosexuals.

5 posted on 03/13/2005 3:23:13 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

"Shhhhhhhhhh...the emperor's not naked...he's just not wearing any clothes."


6 posted on 03/13/2005 3:25:01 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Here's the red flag:

Even though this issue does affect gay people, it is an issue of fundamental civil rights and sensible health policies.

I can't believe civil rights of homosexual men have ANYTHING to do with the right of a patient to expect HIV free blood. Anyone who argues this is arguing for murder.

7 posted on 03/13/2005 3:26:02 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: taxesareforever
You may start your own blood bank...

I'm willing to bet homosexuals would be too afraid to get blood from their own blood bank. And I'm sure the writer here wouldn't want pure homosexual blood either.

Presumed Hypocrite Alert!

8 posted on 03/13/2005 3:26:53 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: taxesareforever
Being gay and having safe homosexual sex does not put you at any more risk of HIV than being straight and having safe heterosexual sex.
My problem is with the concept of "safe sex." I don't believe that such a thing exists. Condoms may minimize the danger somewhat, but it's no guarantee of safety. Heterosexual std's are much easier to deal with than AIDS.
9 posted on 03/13/2005 3:27:04 PM PST by Clara Lou (Hillary Clinton: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: Clint N. Suhks
What "increasing threat" of a blood shortage? I haven't heard about a pending blood shortage. This statement would be one of those types of statements pulled out of the air to add weight to a liberal argument would it?

The world will go on without the "gay" man's blood, whether it's in or out of their bodies.

Besides, as we've learned from the social security debate, why change a "good thing" we know works? Isn't AIDS one of the items listed on the Carter Legacy? I don't want to fart around with Jimma's Legacy anymore than FDR's.
10 posted on 03/13/2005 3:32:39 PM PST by whereasandsoforth
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I damn sure don't want any of their blood, or want it for My Kids or Grandkids. Better to die fast, for lack of a transfusion, than to rot away slowly, afraid to even touch the Folks You love. If any of Mine ever got a contaminated transfusion, I don't reckon I could rest, until I had eliminated as many possible sources, as is possible!
This could mean that I am not a good Christian, but, I believe that some parts of vengeance are Mine! If I have to go to Hell, to keep My Kids and Grandkids out of it, sounds like a deal, to Me!


11 posted on 03/13/2005 3:37:02 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER ( suspect)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
If the FDA truly wanted the safest blood supply possible, it would require all donors to be asked about safe sex practices.

WTF??? Helloooo! They do that already!

Maybe they should allow people who have visited the UK over the past 10 years to donate blood. Currently people who have been to the UK are not allowed to donate because they might have been exposed to Mad Cow disease.

12 posted on 03/13/2005 3:37:06 PM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Being gay and having safe homosexual sex does not put you at any more risk of HIV than being straight and having safe heterosexual sex.

Ridiculous! Totally ignores the obvious difference in particular practices and the different kind of body tissue involved. In the interest of good taste, I will not elaborate.

13 posted on 03/13/2005 3:38:12 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Tagline schmagline.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Let's endanger everyone so we don't offend anyone. Sheesh.


14 posted on 03/13/2005 3:38:49 PM PST by Spruce
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To: Judith Anne
If 10 units of blood potentially infects one to two people per year, then 13 units would potentially infect one to three people, while over 176,000 more people would potentially be protected from the dangers of blood shortages.

This is simply scary logic. It reminds me of a movie I had to see in English class my sophomore year in high school, called The Lottery.

Where one of the town's people is sacrificed (stoned to death) each year for the good of the people...i.e. "convoluted reasoning".

Here, this genius thinks it's OK to risk one more person's health for the benefit of others. It's sick logic, and all so those who practice perversion can pretend to be normal.

15 posted on 03/13/2005 3:39:50 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I read the article starting this thread.

I finish reading the article starting this thread.

I scroll up, thinking this must be from the Onion.

No, not from the Onion.

I click on the link, thinking this HAS to be written with 'tongue in cheek'.

AWWWW, I just went and posted an insensitive thought.

But I was wrong about the Onion part.

I guess I can't always be 'correct'.


16 posted on 03/13/2005 3:40:49 PM PST by Bennett46
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Ypur tyicl self absorbed scientificaly flawed demand from a group that seeks to force it's lifestyle into the Mainstream at any cost. So far, thanks to weak Courts and Politicians, they appear to be succeeding. I meean Jeeez, it's now PC to strut this non-sense


17 posted on 03/13/2005 3:42:28 PM PST by drt1
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Gee, only 3 more units of tainted blood would slip through? Wow, I'm just waiting to live with those odds...

Sorry, no go. It's not a civil rights issue, it is a issue of health safety. The experts predict if gay men are permitted to donate blood, the blood supply itself will face more risk.

One thing the author fails to mention is that a number of gay men already donate blood which some suspect is why there are tainted units out there to begin with.

As for the numbers of additional donors; yeah right. The commerical banks want to open it up because too many homeless folks get paid for their blood but the separate questionaire deep sixes the blood after they leave. Remove the gay sex question from destroying the unit, and you'll have hundreds more cases of people being infected by blood born diseases. At least the bums are doing us a service by marking 'yes' on that question.
18 posted on 03/13/2005 3:42:58 PM PST by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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To: aShepard

I have donated two-three times a year for ten years. The ARC likes my B negative as its kind of rare. I donate knowing nothing in my system will likely harm anyone who gets my blood or plasma. Can these men say the same ?


19 posted on 03/13/2005 3:48:42 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Clara Lou

Heterosexual std's are much easier to deal with than AIDS.

Here here! Reading you loud and clear. The proof is in the pudding. Medical personnel didn't start wearing gloves until the AIDS explosion.


20 posted on 03/13/2005 3:49:12 PM PST by taxesareforever
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