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1 posted on 03/13/2005 1:55:09 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

They don't make 'em like they used to.


2 posted on 03/13/2005 1:57:21 PM PST by jocon307
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.

And this today:

More research needed on Delhi Iron Pillar: experts:

[India News]: New Delhi, Mar 13

The Delhi Iron Pillar, which has withstood corrosion for over 1,600 years, continues to attract the attention of archaeologists and scientists who want to undertake a systematic study to unfold the secret behind its strength.

A panel of scientists from across the country has recommended that the Government allow research on the pillar, a symbol of Indian metallurgical excellence, to ascertain its age, as well as for conservation of its underground part and the passive film that has preserved it through the ages.

"The Archaeological Survey of India has agreed to allow the use of well-established non-invasive techniques to ascertain as to when was the pillar built and its material aspects. But the efficacy of the techniques should be established by testing other ancient iron objects such as Iron Pillar at Dhar and Iron Beams at Konark," Director, Indira Gandhi Centre for Atomic Research, Dr Baldev Raj, who was a member of the panel that made the recommendations, said.

The panel had gathered here to review the status of scientific research on the pillar and make recommendations to the Government to initiate systematic scientific studies to gain more information about it.

Earlier studies, beginning in 1961, have thrown some light on the composition and the microstructure of the "rustless wonder", but difference versions exist on the scientific dating of the pillar, Professor R Balasubramaniam, a scientist at IIT Kanpur who has conducted extensive research on the pillar, said. PTI

3 posted on 03/13/2005 1:59:56 PM PST by blam
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Good Lord, this technology has been around for over 1600 years? To think how much rust proof steel could have saved in money, time, and labor. Staggering.


4 posted on 03/13/2005 2:04:41 PM PST by Free Vulcan
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To: blam
the film has grown just one-twentieth of a millimeter thick,



It has only grown 1/20 of a millimeter thick, but somehow encompasses the entire pillar from top to bottom.
7 posted on 03/13/2005 2:11:27 PM PST by Bostton1
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To: blam
the protective film was formed catalytically by the presence of high amounts of phosphorous in the iron—as much as one per cent against less than 0.05 per cent in today's iron.

Before everyone goes all ga-ga over the skill of the ancients, consider this. The reason that phosphorous is eliminated by modern metallurgical process is that it causes the iron to be exceedingly brittle, thus rendering it unsuitable for use as a structural material or say a cannon barrel. Perfectly acceptable for a decorative column or ballast weight however.

Regards,
GtG

12 posted on 03/13/2005 2:42:12 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, but I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: blam

BTTT


23 posted on 03/13/2005 3:15:04 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: blam

Cold rust bluing, which is a process applied to gun metal, works on a similar principle. Essentially, it is a fixed film of corrosion that prevents further rust from forming. Parkerization (used on Garand M1s) used a phosphate based process to achieve similar result.


25 posted on 03/13/2005 3:23:26 PM PST by JCEccles (If Jimmy Carter were a country, he'd be Canada.)
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To: blam

uh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh, he said "erection"....


26 posted on 03/13/2005 3:26:57 PM PST by baclava
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To: blam
Someone better tell Detroit.
28 posted on 03/13/2005 3:39:12 PM PST by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods,Shop at Wal Mart)
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To: blam; vannrox; RightOnTheLeftCoast

Thanks Blam, will add it to the GGG catalog. Welcome to RightOnTheLeftCoast.

similar thread:

Mystery of Delhi's Iron Pillar unraveled
Press Trust of India | Sunday, July 21, 2002 | Editorial Staff
Posted on 07/21/2002 1:15:49 PM PDT by vannrox
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/719966/posts


34 posted on 03/13/2005 4:04:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, March 13, 2005.)
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Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest
-- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

35 posted on 03/13/2005 4:05:03 PM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, March 13, 2005.)
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Metallurgists at Kanpur IIT have discovered that a thin layer of "misawite", a compound of iron, oxygen and hydrogen, has protected the cast iron pillar from rust.

Every steel surface is coated with a layer of iron, oxygen, and hyrdogen. Rust is nothing but iron, oxygen, and hydrogen. Some of the iron oxides and hydroxides are more protective than others. Apparently, the phosphorus in this steel caused the surface to be coated with one of the more protective minerals.

It will be interesting to see whether the corrosion performance of this piece changes with time. If India gets enough industry to get a little acid rain, the whole surface could become active and start corroding rapidly in a very short period of time.

Bill

36 posted on 03/13/2005 4:05:55 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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47 posted on 03/22/2010 3:29:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("People never lie so much as before an election, during a war, or after a hunt." [Otto von Bismarck])
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