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Mildly Pro Choice?
Catholic Way ^ | 3/13/05 | Keith A. Fournier

Posted on 03/13/2005 12:11:42 PM PST by tcg

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To: tcg

Some of us, though we strongly oppose abortion on demand, might feel that it should be permitted in certain cases where the mother's health is jeopardized.

The issue isn't whether the fetus is a life. It is. Rather, the issue is when does the mother's welfare take precedence. That is up to a doctor, and not just a clergyman, to decide.


61 posted on 03/13/2005 2:46:05 PM PST by MoochPooch (A righteous person worries about his or her behavior, an extremist about everyone else's.)
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To: sevry
That's like marrying a bisexual, and hoping your spouse will learn.

-A8

62 posted on 03/13/2005 2:55:45 PM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: Cicero
I have said I would vote for Condi if she promised to take a pro-life stance. She has unequivocally rejected that option.

Then I hope you are happy with another President Clinton, fully funding gov't abortion, protecting Roe V Wade with the full power of the justice department and the appointment of a hundred pro-abortion judges.

63 posted on 03/13/2005 3:03:08 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel
"...Hillary is a given in 2008 if Rice runs for GOP."

Unfortunately, Hillary is probably a give in 2008 regardless. Look at the rest of the possible GOP candidates (McCain = crazy, Guliani = pro-abort, Frist = wet noodle, etc.)

64 posted on 03/13/2005 3:55:57 PM PST by penowa
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To: Erik Latranyi

You may call me "derelict."


65 posted on 03/13/2005 3:59:19 PM PST by penowa
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To: tcg
I am making a choice now to support a different candidate

I agree, I also like Santorum. But rather than create a circular firing squad, lets talk up the desirable qualities of our preference without disparaging the other possible candidates.

66 posted on 03/13/2005 4:02:56 PM PST by oldbrowser (What really matters is culture, ethos, character, and morality)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

Will you stop the ridiculous notion that it was YOU anti-abortionists that elected Bush. RIDICULOUS. And while we're at it, stop threatening us all the time. If you don't like the candidates from the Republican Party, go start your own party.


67 posted on 03/13/2005 4:06:53 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Godebert

"John McCain and his gun-control agenda received almost over 50% support from the members of this "conservative" forum. I'd wager the Pro-Abortion, Pro-homosexual agenda gun-grabbing Giulliani would do even better."

Here is my view. John McCain is too unstable to be President. You never really know where he is coming from or if he will change his mind.

Rudi Giulliani is too Pro-abort and too much of a gun grabber. I have no interest in him as President either.

Condi Rice's statement that she is libertarian on abortion does not tell me what she believes in, only that she is trying to duck this issue.

I think I will wait and see if someone else runs and I will make my decision then.


68 posted on 03/13/2005 6:18:49 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: Hildy
it was YOU anti-abortionists that elected Bush. RIDICULOUS

oh. Thank you for the correction, LOL!

Good luck electing your pro-abort GOP candidate in 2008. You can blame only yourselves when Hillary takes the keys of the White House in Jan 2009.

69 posted on 03/13/2005 6:33:53 PM PST by St. Johann Tetzel (Rule One! No Poofters!)
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To: Hildy
If you don't like the candidates from the Republican Party

then we'll lobby for pro-lifers, and the GOP will either listen to us or lose 2008. Its that simple.

70 posted on 03/13/2005 6:35:08 PM PST by St. Johann Tetzel (Rule One! No Poofters!)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

I'm so amused by how important you think you are.


71 posted on 03/13/2005 6:43:02 PM PST by Hildy
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

ROFLMAO!!! You're delusional.


72 posted on 03/13/2005 6:43:34 PM PST by Hildy
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

I have a feeling there's a Virginian who will be the next Pubby candidate ... and he's very pro-life.


73 posted on 03/13/2005 6:46:50 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

No, of course not. But the Republican party needs to wake up. The pro-life position is more popular with the voters than pro-abortion, in all but the Democratic strongholds where Republicans don't have a chance.

So why run a pro-abort candidate when a pro-lifer will do better and will help with the Senate and the judiciary as well?

The only reason I can think of is that the snobs and the country clubbers and the big money people at the top want their abortions more than they want a political win.

Why put up a candidate that people have to hold their nose to vote for? It's not the best way to build momentum.


74 posted on 03/13/2005 7:06:00 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: gpapa
" ... I just prefer someone other than Condi Rice."

I understand.

It would seem that we should have some unpolished diamonds lying around here that we are not finding.

Either they aren't polished, or their still under the surface.

75 posted on 03/14/2005 3:46:27 AM PST by G.Mason ("I have never killed a man but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure" - Clarence Darrow)
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To: Hildy

You won't be amused when Hillary is seated in the White House, because the GOP thought abortion was a non-issue.


76 posted on 03/14/2005 6:41:27 AM PST by St. Johann Tetzel (Rule One! No Poofters!)
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To: MHGinTN
I have a feeling there's a Virginian who will be the next Pubby candidate ... and he's very pro-life.

That's the first good news I've heard concerning the GOP in several days. Hope you are right!

77 posted on 03/14/2005 11:10:46 AM PST by St. Johann Tetzel (Rule One! No Poofters!)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

So you'd rather see a totally pro-choice liberal Democrat as President, than a mildly pro-choice, but otherwise, Conservative President. Yea, that makes sense.


78 posted on 03/14/2005 11:34:04 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy
So you'd rather see a

Of course, I never said what I would rather see, I'm just telling you that the GOP WILL lose in 2008 if the nominate even a "mildly" pro-abort candidate.

Deal with that reality, or don't. Doesn't matter to me what you minority "moderate" ("moderate" = a liberal without the guts to admit it) GOPers think.

79 posted on 03/14/2005 11:43:23 AM PST by St. Johann Tetzel (Rule One! No Poofters!)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

Keep dreaming.


80 posted on 03/14/2005 11:44:05 AM PST by Hildy
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