Mildly Pro Choice?

Catholic Way ^ | 3/13/05 | Keith A. Fournier

[St. Johann Tetzel]

a mildly pro-choice, but otherwise, Conservative President

What an oxymaroon...so to speak.

[Hildy]

Well, that's what I consider myself to be. I would like to see as few abortions as possible, but I do not think it should be outlawed. And I consider myself to be Conservative. If I don't fit into your definition of Conservative. TOUGH.

[St. Johann Tetzel]

"...oxymaroon."

Well, that's what I consider myself to be.

You have my pity. It must be hard to live such a confused life.

[Hildy]

and for the misbelief that you're so clever, you have my pity as well.

[Know your rights]

No one deserves to be born into that life.

Killing them in the womb is kinder?

[Know your rights]

the issue is when does the mother's welfare take precedence.

Agreed.

That is up to a doctor, and not just a clergyman, to decide.

A doctor has no expertise in ethical questions.

[Know your rights]

If the mild loses to the wild because you chose to support a third party candidate who didn't have a chance and split the conservative vote, [...] then you an in effect voting for the wild.

If my single vote could decide the outcome, you might have a point. It won't, so you don't.

[MoochPooch]

A doctor would not make the decision alone; rather, he or she would have to consult with a clergyman & mutually decide whether or not a pregnancy should be terminated for the mother's sake.

[Know your rights]

A doctor would not make the decision alone; rather, he or she would have to consult with a clergyman & mutually decide whether or not a pregnancy should be terminated for the mother's sake.

So a woman has only to round up her local abortionist and the nearest Unitarian minister, and it's off to the stirrups? Thanks, but no thanks.

[oldbrowser]

If my single vote could decide the outcome, you might have a point. It won't, so you don't.

They all count, every single one.

[Know your rights]

That doesn't contradict my statement, which remains correct.

[Know your rights]

Then every vote for a third-party candidate also counts.

[BillyBoy]

>> "John McCain and his gun-control agenda received almost over 50% support from the members of this "conservative" forum. I'd wager the Pro-Abortion, Pro-homosexual agenda gun-grabbing Giulliani would do even better." <<

NO, actually about 50% of this forum (myself including) said they would hold their nose and support McCain and his lousy record on guns ONLY IF the the alternative was a full blown marxist named Hillary Clinton. You will never get 50% of this forum saying they would NORMALLY vote for McCain and want to nominate him for POTUS.

And I think it's a sad commentary that more freepers are "willing" to vote a "mildly" pro-abort candidate (Condi) against Hillary than a mildly pro-life candidate (McCain) against Hillary. There's no doubt McCain is a goofy arrogant egomanic, but at least he VOTES the right way. Condi is simply on the wrong side of a boatload of issues from abortion, to civil "unions", to illegal immigration. That being said, I would vote for her as well IF the alternative was Hillary, but I hope it doesn't come to that.

I do think it's sad that the majority of "conservative" freepres would pull the lever for pro-abortion Condi in a Condi vs. McCain primary though.

[trisham]

Then I hope you are happy with another President Clinton, fully funding gov't abortion, protecting Roe V Wade with the full power of the justice department and the appointment of a hundred pro-abortion judges.

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Excellent, excellent point.

[Know your rights]

Then I hope you are happy with another President Clinton

Will his single vote make the difference? If not, why shouldn't he send a message by voting third party?

[MoochPooch]

"So a woman has only to round up her local abortionist and the nearest Unitarian minister, and it's off to the stirrups? Thanks, but no thanks."


Unfortunately there would be abuses. Hopefully a true G-d-fearing clergyman would weigh and measure the circumstances.

Ironically, most truly religious women I know of didn't want an abortion, or got one very reluctantly, when confronted with this painful choice. A friend of mine terminated a pregnancy when she discovered the fetus was so severely deformed it wouldn't live, anyway. Her rabbi, after consulting with the physician, deemed it "non-viable."

Another friend of mine was diagnosed with breast cancer while pregnant. She still wanted her baby -- and had it. I don't know to what extent it affected her treatment; she is no longer alive. But she may have felt the joy of bringing a life into the world far superseded anything else.

[trisham]

If not, why shouldn't he send a message by voting third party?

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How will "sending a message" keep Hillary out of office?

[Know your rights]

there would be abuses.

There would be nothing but abuses.

[Know your rights]

How will "sending a message" keep Hillary out of office?

How will his single vote keep Hillary out of office?

[trisham]

How will his single vote keep Hillary out of office?

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I hope Erick will correct me if I misstate his intention, but it was my understanding that he was speaking to not just the poster to whom he was responding, but to all those here who feel the same way.