Scientology, The Clearwater Bar Association and Judge Greer

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[Dixielander]

Scientology, The Clearwater Bar Association, and Judge Greer

Judge George W. Greer presides over Florida's Sixth Judicial Circuit Court. He is known internationally for the Terri Schindler Schiavo guardianship case. Pat Anderson, former attorney for the Schindlers, characterized Judge Greer's unprecedented rulings as "The Rule of Terri's Case."

The Clearwater Bar Association is delighted with Judge Greer's performance in this particular case. They presented the John U. Bird award to the Pinellas-Pasco Circuit judge on May 15, 2004. This prestigious award, which is the Clearwater bar's highest honor for a judge, was granted to Judge Greer for the way he has handled himself while overseeing the Terri Schiavo case!

Robert Dickinson III, the outgoing president of the Clearwater Bar Association, cited Judge Greer's handling of the Terri Schiavo case in terms of "passing the test":

"Rarely is a person's mettle and faith tested in such a strenuous and public way as this gentleman's has been over the last few years," Robert Dickinson III said. "Rarely do mortals pass the test with such flying colors."

(Quote source: Lawyers laud judge in Schiavo case) [bold emphasis added]

I find these words rather ominous when I reflect on "the test" Judge Greer has been passing—all these years. Judge Greer's consistent practice of upholding Scientology doctrines over and above Florida law is being lauded by the Clearwater Bar Association! The "test" Robert Dickenson III is alluding to is the "test case." The euthanasia test case.

Greer is "passing the test" with flying colors because he is permitting Michael Schiavo to abuse, exploit and neglect his disabled wife in defiance of the Florida statues. And the Clearwater Bar Association cheers.

Scientology attorney Wally Pope—who represented his "church" in the Lisa McPherson case—was the individual selected to bestow this high honor on Judge Greer! Wally cited high ideals, personal character, and judicial competence:

"Yet, in the teeth of all that, he has steadfastly demonstrated exactly what the John U. Bird award was created to honor: high ideals, personal character, judicial competence and service," lawyer Wally Pope said before bestowing the honor.

(Quote source: Lawyers laud judge in Schiavo case) [bold emphasis added]

The "judicial competence" that Judge Greer has exhibited in his handling of the Terri Schiavo case is clearly the kind that ignores evidence and even Florida statutes in order to uphold Scientology doctrine—which requires the deletion of "social contagions" (the disabled) from society. It is no coincidence that a Scientology attorney—who was a lead attorney in the Lisa McPherson case—personally bestowed this award to Judge Greer. Greer's decisions to consistently rule in favor of terminating a disabled person do reflect high ideals—in the sight of Scientology.

Lies to Make Terri Schiavo Fit the Scientology Mold

One of Scientology's major goals is to change society's views about death, dying, and those L. Ron Hubbard considered to be "past the half-way point": the disabled.

Scientologists believe (1) that a disabled person is in such a state due to his or her own failings, (2) the disabled person will deliberately move in the direction of death, and (3) disabled people (Individuals who score low on the emotional tone scale) will also bring death to those around them. (See L. Ron Hubbard's book, Self Analysis, chapter 4)

Scientology teaches that if a person is disabled it is his or her fault. Terri has been falsely represented as being disabled due to self-induced vomiting which supposedly caused a potassium imbalance that resulted in a cardiac arrest. Medical records have disproved these claims, but these "facts" were presented in the court record and are still being promulgated via the media today. The truth is that Terri suffered serious injuries, (including a head and neck injury and numerous broken bones). An exceptionally competent neurologist testified (that Michael Schiavo's attorneys predictably attempted to discredit) stated that Terri's injuries are consistent with strangulation:

Dr. William Hammesfahr, Nobel prize nominee and neurologist, testified that Terri's neck injuries are consistent with only one type of injury: that of strangulation.

(Quote source: State-Funded Agency to Probe Claim of Spousal Abuse in Terri Schiavo Case)

The only person in the apartment with Terri at the time of her collapse was her husband, Michael Schiavo.

Scientology teaches that a disabled person will move in the direction of death. Terri has been illegally denied therapy for over ten years for the purpose of causing her abilities and health to deteriorate. She has also been placed in hospice facilities—and denied any stimulation— rather than in a nursing home. This was done to create the illusion that Terri is moving in the direction of death. According to L. Ron Hubbard's doctrines, a disabled person wants to die. Michael Schiavo never misses an opportunity to state that death is "Terri's wish." This is not true. Terri wants to live so much that she exerts tremendous effort to demonstrate her abilities.

Scientology teaches that disabled persons (Individuals who score low on the tone scale) will also bring death to those around them. Michael is so worried that Terri will bring "death" to him (accusations of attempted murder?) that he refuses to allow her to have speech therapy—or any therapy. Of course Michael's power to keep Terri in a state of disability is contingent upon Judge Greer's continued collusion with the Scientology agenda, which is not in accordance with Florida laws.

The Clearwater Bar Association: Cozy with Scientology

Mike Faehner, who was president-elect of the Clearwater Bar Association in 2001, endorsed the Johnson Blakely Pope Bokor Ruppel & Burns PA. firm:

"In the legal community, they have a good reputation," said Mike Faehner, president-elect of the Clearwater Bar Association. "They do quite a bit of legal educational outreach. They're a solid law firm."

(Quote source: Clearwater firm breaks from standing tradition)

This firm brings in a lot of money by litigating for the "Church" of Scientology:

Their clients include parents involved in a baby swap, a woman who was not allowed to dress after she was arrested for skinny-dipping, the controversial Church of Scientology and developers who have changed the landscape of Clearwater.

(Quote source: Clearwater firm breaks from standing tradition) [bold emphasis added]

It is probable that Scientology attorneys are on the board and/or are officers of the Clearwater Bar Association! Mike Faehner said:

Many Johnson Blakely lawyers have been board members or officers in the association. The firm also sponsors bar activities, he said.

It is becoming increasingly clear that the Clearwater Bar Association is on cozy terms with the "Church" of Scientology. They choose to have their monthly meetings at the Fort Harrison Hotel—Scientology headquarters. (See: Res Ipsa Loquitur) The Clearwater bar gladly endorses firms that litigate for Scientology. They even chose a Scientology attorney to present an award to Judge Greer for "passing the test" in the way he handled the Terri Schiavo case.

Scientology For Euthanasia; Florida Law Against it

Wally Pope represented the "Church" of Scientology in the wrongful death suit filed by the Estate of Lisa McPherson. He fought to enable Scientology to completely get away with dehydrating Lisa McPherson to death. They did not succeed. They settled with the Lisa McPherson Trust!

Judge Greer's rulings have enabled Michael Schiavo (working on behalf of the Scientology agenda) to almost get away with dehydrating Terri Schiavo to death. The only reason this did not happen is because many Americans—once they saw the videos of Terri that Mr. Schindler bravely released to the media—made it known they would not stand for such evil in our society.

It is time to take a stand against this barbarism once again. Disabled citizens of the United States of America (including Terri Schindler Schiavo of Clearwater, Florida) must not be denied therapy and even life itself due to L. Ron Hubbard's disgust over the fact that a decent society takes care of its own:

Society, the bulk of which is bent upon survival, fails or refuses to recognize death or the urge of organisms toward it. Society passes laws against murder and suicide. Society provides hospitals. Society carries such people [the disabled] on its back. And society will not hear of euthanasia or "mercy killing." (Self Analysis by L. Ron Hubbard; pg. 28)

May the Lord Jesus Christ be glorified as his people "hear his voice" concerning this matter and follow him.

Gary and Lisa Ruby

link to: Judge In Schiavo Case Failed To Legally Qualify For Office; Discharge Mandated

Petition to impeach Judge Greer --Judge Greer has violated Florida statutes and the Judicial Code of Ethics in order to go along with Scientology ethics.

Also see: Scientology and Terri Schindler Schiavo: The Death Connection

In Keeping With Scientology Doctrine, Michael Schiavo Removed Terri From Society

Keeping Terri Disabled: Michael's Illegal Pretext to Kill

7/28/04

edited 02/04/05

[GVnana]

Well OK. You seem to have a lot of information and some pretty strong opinions on this subject. I'd be more interested in your personal truths than your suppositions and slights against others. Flaglady has no obligations to you. FR is a good forum, when we respect each other.

[null and void]

Yes ma'am.

[null and void]

BTW, my offer to discuss Scientology either by FReepmail or in an open forum remains open, should you ever have any interest in this.

[Selkie]

BTTT

[PatGoltz]

Sorry, Greer is no Lutheran. He may be a LINO, but everything he's doing is completely contrary to Lutheran doctrine. Be aware that the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) is apostate, and so are large portions of the Missouri Synod at this point.

I am a lifelong Lutheran, so I have a basis for my remarks.

Greer got the award FROM Scientology, as I understand it. It was simply PRESENTED by this lawyer.

Greer's and Michael's possible association with Scientology would completely explain the discrepancies in the case that I did not understand.

[PatGoltz]

Michael's no Lutheran, either!

[narses]

Ping.

[Fred]

Tom Cruise

[piasa]

Amazing how a simple question about religious preferences never got answered...

I would think she'd simply say 'no' and be done with it instead of dancing around the question for such a long time.

The scientology angle could explain a lot about this case.

It's hard to explain otherwise why a man and his backers would work so hard to kill a person they claim is an unfeeling vegetable and at the same time, illogically claim it's 'cruel' to keep a 'thing' that 'cannot feel' alive. How can one be cruel to something that cannot feel the difference between humane treatment and inhumane treatment? They can't admit she can respond to pain without also conceding she can experience pleasure, love and joy, and any effort to murder her is the only sure way to deny her these experiences.

If she's beyond caring about anything, what difference does it make if she lives or dies to Michael Schiavo, except to fufill his own pointless vanity at the expense of Terri and her family? His backers want us to accept the idea that Michael is doing it all because he loves her and 'she wanted to die' when by their own arguments she can't want anything now and hasn't since her collapse. If she is a vegetable then she's not capable of wanting anything and there is no point in fanatically planning and pushing for her death when it would be more gracious and honorable to let the parents take a shot at helping her so they, too can have closure.

It takes a fanatic to deny a family -however much he might dislike them for disagreeing with him- their last chance with their daughter when the only thing at stake, at least according to him, is a vague past desire on the part of a person who supposedly no longer has desires.

But thinking back on the previous history of the scientology crowd, and reflecting upon what's on this thread about their view of disabled people as some kind of threat to the living, it makes sense that they fear disabled people enough to go to extremes. It's as if they are afraid their souls might accidently slip into a disabled person's body and get stuck there.

I wish I had read more on scientology- I hadn't realized just how much influence it has. Thanks for sharing.

[Fred]

More on Greta and Scientology

http://home.snafu.de/tilman/prolinks/greta.html

[Fred]

It appears that you are in one.... and no one is trying to wack you.....

[PJBlogger]

Thank you for adding one more item to the growing list of conflicts of interest of Judge Greer.

Does Greta Van Susteren, a Scientologist, reporting on this case for Fox, have a similar conflict of interest?

[The Red Zone]

How could you get your thrills of seeing Terri "beautifully" starve to death?

[The Red Zone]

Greta van Susteren once said in the Washington Post that she is a Scientologist ("I like the ethics") and in People ("I'm a strong advocate of their ethics").

Scientologist theology is not kind to the disabled. She likes that kind of ethics?

[The Red Zone]

Whoa, it's the HINO that purports to be a Luciferan (er, Lutheran)

[Dixielander]

I didn't know that Greta was a Scientologist, and for the record I've never watched her program, assuming that she has one.

I just discovered an article posted on FR: " The Bias of Judge George Greer - Dirty Connections." I'll find it and ping you.

[maryz]

Greer is a Baptist. I've seen various posts and heard various things about how he was asked to leave his church over the Schiavo case, and I have no inside info. I've read that he never attended but donated. I've heard that he was "devastated" over being asked to leave. It's Michael who is described as Lutheran.

[livius]

Thanks for posting this. I knew Scientology was involved, but I didn't know what its specfic beliefs were regarding the disabled and death. Truly a frightening (and powerful) cult.

[ninenot]

Greer is a Lutheran, not a Scientologist

Wrong-O.

Greer was a member of a local Baptist church, and he quit the church after the pastor gave a few pointed sermons about killing the disabled.

[ninenot]

While the judge may or may not be a Scientologist, or an active worshiper of Lucifer, that Felos character should be at the top of the dangerous-loon list.