Posted on 03/11/2005 6:32:41 PM PST by Sola Veritas
Rice pointedly declined to rule out running for president in 2008 on Friday during an hour-long interview with reporters at WASHINGTON TIMES, top sources tell DRUDGE. Rice gave her most detailed explanation of a 'mildly pro-choice' stance on abortion, she would not want the government 'forcing its views' on abortion... She explained that she is libertarian on the issue, adding: 'I have been concerned about a government role'... Developing late Friday for Saturday cycles... MORE...
All right, the position may be easier for men. However, I highly doubt rapists are opposed to the killing of their offspring who result from their crimes.
But I still say: To the debate itself, the gender of the debaters is irrelevant. If you are honestly debating whether it is acceptable to kill a child because his father is a rapist, or closely related to the mother, the debaters' gender doesn't matter.
If the circumstances are the same, then to me, the terms mildly pro-choice and pro-life with exceptions mean the exact same thing. But because of politics, on side will claim one definition while the other side claims the other.
"I never wanted to run for anything — I don't think I even ran for class anything when I was in school," she said. "I'm going to try to be a really good secretary of state; I'm going to work really hard at it.
"I have enormous respect for people who do run for office. It's really hard for me to imagine myself in that role."
She's a pro choice Republican. No secrets there. I won't vote for her in a primary but if it was her and Hillary, I'd vote for Condi but I'd do everything I could to move her off the pro choice thing.
Actually, the RAPIST by the act of RAPE is the impediment to her pursuit of happiness. We should kill a kid for the crimes of the father? No where near anything this country stands for...
I pity John Gacy. I pity those he killed. He was a tortured man. I don't believe in excusing him in the eyes of the law.
Why is it delusional to realize that illegal abortions happened and are happening all over the world?
I hate abortion. But to have so much hate in your heart for women you don't even know is sad. Should they go to jail? Should there be the death penalty for having an abortion? Would your opinion change if it were someone you loved?
I think you are really generalizing there.....true men won't know the physical or true emotional elements of birthing or pregnancy, but they can have deep feelings about it......that is like saying a most women can't grasp the virtues of war or combat since they don't for the most part fight on the front line.....well, they may not experience but I'll bet they feel the horrors and triumph or war almost as much as the men
Jesus provides the way for God's prodigal children to return Home.
The Fall of Man described in Genesis was not so much about evil, so much as it was about human nature. God gave man free will, and part of that free will is an insatiable desire to go 'beyond'. The story repeats in the Parable of the Prodigal Son, but with a new ending. Whereas in the original story, the Father hoped that his children would obey his boundaries and was--in a sense--unprepared when they did not, in the latter story the Father recognized that it was human nature not to always obey boundaries, but that human beings could (and sometimes needed to) learn from experience.
One analogy I think is helpful to reconcile the concept of free will with that of an omnipotent creator is to consider the game of Klondike solitare. If you're playing with physical cards, is there anything that would prevent you from putting a Queen of Clubs on a Six of Diamonds? On the one hand, you "can't doing that", but on the other hand, there's nothing physically stopping you, except this: if you make such a play, you would cease to be playing Klondike solitaire.
God gave people free will. He would have the power to revoke that give, but once he exercised such power he would no longer be giving people free will. And, as with Klondike solitaire, it really isn't a "fuzzy" issue. To revoke the gift for anyone would generally be to revoke it for all.
God decided in the Beginning that his children would have the free will power to leave him. Whether or not he expected them to do so, he could not revoke that power without revoking the Greatest Gift. What God could do, however, was offer a way for lost people to return home. And in Christ he did precisely that. He can't force anyone to follow, but he can show them the way and offer the free-will choice to take it.
You could be right on that. I have made the point a number of times that she could be more honest than some who call themselves pro-life. But having said that, she is adopting the wording and the rhetoric and the semantics of the other side. That doesn't bode well, and would exclude her from my support in any case.
I've more than once expressed my admiration for her on many personal and professional levels.
But the fact is, the pro-life cause is far more important than the future resume of this unwilling candidate of some people's imaginations.
Have a nice evening, rintense.
>>> It makes no difference if a man dies in a car crash or in a murder, because death is death. >>>
Only if you push the man off a cliff in the car. Explain the difference in abortion and birthing a child you know will not live and will die a lingering death?
Yes, but there are some who would consider that an abortion because you are killing an unborn child.
>>>BUT, there is always the woman factor. So she CAN'T say NO cut and dry. >>>
Possibly because WOMEN are the ones either birthing or having abortions? Possibly because a woman feels this issue a little harder than men.
Hardly. Has he ever written (or even stated a position) as forceful as Ronald Reagan did in his essay "Abortion and the Conscience of the Nation"? Go read it and get back to me.
Perhaps she's testing the political climate! I believe Condi will continue to define herself, and will surprise many- including the issue of abortion.
Sad to see so many people are shallow one-issue voters without the interest of advancing conservatism on the whole to the general public....
.....then again, being on the more libertarian wing I've no probelm with Condi. Replying like this, I should probably go get my asbestos suit.
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