Yale Student: Reclaiming Christianity From the Christian Right

Yale Daily News ^ | 3/11/2005 | Bess Hinson

[Lady Heron]

That agenda is not mine. Many Christians, like myself, strongly believe in separation of church and state; are Democrats and pro-choice; support women in ministry as preachers and teachers; and believe that God loves all people, regardless of race, creed, color or sexual orientation.

Great, one more "Christian" who needs to read the Bible, and does not know how stupid she looks to those who have.

[RobRoy]

A better title might be:

Yale Student: Reclaiming Christianity From the Christians

[HamiltonJay]

She apparently is a "pro-choice Christian"

There is no such thing. I'm sorry, but there is no way anyone can read scripture and claim they are pro-abortion and a Christian. There is no way to justify pro-abortion with the teaching of Christianity and not be lying to ones self.

[1L]

>>this new political Christian right is seriously wrong, because its view of God is so narrow that few are included except its own.<<

Let's see: the "Christian right" (whatever that means) is wrong because they believe that those that disagree with them are incorrect, but the author is right because she believes those that disagree with her are incorrect.

Perhaps its just me that's having a problem with this so-called idea, so could someone clear this up for me?

[Lady Heron]

"...outside are the homosexuals, those who misuse drugs in connection with the occult, the sexually immoral, murderers, idol-worshippers, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood." (Rev 22:15)

What version are you using?????

"But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves, and practices a lie." (Rev 22"15)

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

The left will talk about their Christian values (providing for the poor) to justify their socialist views.

And they say we try to impose our values on everyone. Maybe we should start saying that every mention of charity in gov't is a violation of the Establishment clause. LOL! I could really have some fun with that. For example: The Bible says that we should be concerned about the poor. Since that idea finds its roots in the Bible, to promote it in gov't is an unconstituional violation of the separation of church and state. The moral values of the majority are irrelevant. John Cheapskate's 14th Amendment right to liberty and property is what's at issue. So people are dying of AIDS. So children are homeless. So someone cannot pay for their healthcare. It's not the gov't's business to impose the morality of the majority on all. Our taxes pay for military and structural things ONLY, if morality cannot be an issue.

[isaiah55version11_0]

Loves sinners?

ASV Rom 9:11 for the children being not yet born, neither having done anything good or bad, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth, 12it was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. 13Even as it is written, Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated. 14What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. 15For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion. 16So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that hath mercy. 17For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, For this very purpose did I raise thee up, that I might show in thee my power, and that my name might be published abroad in all the earth…...

(keep going for two more chapters, it will keep you humble)

Scripture does not say God is Love, Love, Love. It says he is Holy, holy, holy(Isa 6:3). This is the only trait of his raised to this level, and it is for this reason that we shall fear God. We seem never to tire of talking about his love, but we rarely talk of his holiness. It is only from the perspective of his Holiness, can we can just scratch the surface of his amazing grace.

When all else fails, read the instructions (CCEL > Bibles and Commentaries)

[frannie]

Also see Romans 1: 23-32

It repeats some of 2 Timothy 3:1-5

Frannie

[longtermmemmory]

The Entire Unabridged Bible as written by these secular atheist Christian amoralists:

((drum roll please))


page one

Whatever...

the end.

[frannie]

I also emailed her and simply pointed out the scriptures as noted in some of the replies here and also others I thought may help, if she even reads them.

She needs our prayers for I feel she has strayed so far away from the Lord's teachings.

[BigTime]

I see you are on the bawl today!

[jonboy]

Matthew 5:43-45 (43) "You have heard that it was said, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR and hate your enemy.' 44 "But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.

Here we are told to love those we would normally be inclined to hate, our enemies, because of our Father in Heaven. This kind of love does not come from men naturally, It is a divine love. God LOVES those who are His enemies just as He wants us to.

Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.

Hate does not always mean what we understand it to be. Here, we are told that our love for our loved ones must be hate by comparison to our love for Jesus. It does not mean that we hate them in the normally understood sense.

If you took this literally, we would be being told to love our enemies and hate the ones closest to us. This is not what God was trying to communicate.

[apackof2]

She probably decided to use "Christian" when WWJD bracelets were the rage

[He Rides A White Horse]

Most of the time, I just have to admit that there are many people who call themselves "Christian" who have far different opinions from Jesus' in their relationships with others.

Christ is Christ, and what He said is the Truth.

[cajungirl]

why post her email address?

[He Rides A White Horse]

It is possible for Christians to be loving, kind, conversational and respectful of persons of different faiths."

I. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

[He Rides A White Horse]

Yale Student: Reclaiming Christianity From the Christian Right

More proper title"

Claiming Christ At the Behest of My Secular Humanist Liberal Left College Teachers

[SuziQ]

my best friend looked at me through eyes tearing with frustration and said, “Your people did this.” She turned her head to the aisle and spent our trip upset and without words.

Sounds like that friend needs to get a grip.

[highlander_UW]

Many Christians, like myself, strongly believe in separation of church and state; are Democrats and pro-choice; support women in ministry as preachers and teachers; and believe that God loves all people, regardless of race, creed, color or sexual orientation.

I just wish that if people are going to make up their own gods that they not incorrectly identify themselves as Christians...it confuses too many people.

[ewin]

You asked: >>What version are you using?????<<

That was from David Stern's Jewish New Testament. He has the honesty to translate what others would not. The Greek word is simply translated "dog", but in the Jewish culture (and the John, the scribe of Revelation, was raised a Jew, as was Jesus who dictated the words), that is a reference to a male homosexual prostitute, as can be seen in Deut 28:18-19- "You are not to bring the wages of a female prostitute nor the wages of a dog (kelev) into the house of Adonai your God in payment of any vow; both of them are an abomination..."

See Stern's Jewish New Testament Commentary entry on Rev 22:15.

A similar contemporary analogue would be that the simple definition of the word 'faggot' is a bundle of sticks, while most modern contexts imply a offensive term for an openly homosexual man.