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Spanish Muslims issue fatwa against Al-Qaeda's Osama Bin Laden (American Muslims Take Note)
Yahoo ^ | 03/10/05

Posted on 03/10/2005 11:49:20 AM PST by MikeA

MADRID (AFX) - Spain's Islamic Commission, which groups the nation's Muslim community, said it was issuing a fatwa against Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, 'We are going to issue a fatwa (religious decree) against Bin Laden this afternoon,' Mansour Escudero, who leads the Federation of Islamic religious entities (Feeri) and co-secretary general of the Spanish governmenmt-created Commission told AFP. The Commission invited Spanish-based imams to condemn terrorism at Friday prayers, when the whole country will be remembering the 191 people who were killed in the train blasts and the 1,900 injured a year ago. The attacks have been blamed on mainly Moroccan Islamic extremists loyal to Bin Laden. 'We have called on imams to make a formal declaration condemning terrorism and for a special prayer for all the victims of terrorism,' Escudero said. The Commission has also drawn up a document designed to 'thank the Spanish people and the government for their attitude towards Muslims' since last March 11, in particular for not taking 'disproportionate' measures similar to those which the Sept 11 attacks sparked in the US. The Commission called on Muslims to take part in Friday's commemorative programme being organised by Spanish authorities and community groups and to work with them to ensure terrorism was defeated.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 11march; alqaedaspain; anniversary; binladen; bomb; fatwah; islam; jihad; jihadineurope; madridbombing; obl; spain; spanishmuslims; terrorism; train
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To: MikeA

***'...thank the Spanish people and the government for their attitude towards Muslims' since last March 11, in particular for not taking 'disproportionate' measures similar to those which the Sept 11 attacks sparked in the US.***

And just what does that mean? It sounds like an empty threat against Bin Laden! It sounds like something the new communist head of Spain dreamed up to shut the people up.


21 posted on 03/10/2005 12:07:44 PM PST by kitkat (Our Founding Fathers are PROUD of Pres. George W. Bus)
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To: ariamne; Former Dodger; Fred Nerks; USF; jan in Colorado; TexasCowboy; broadsword; FairfaxVA; ...

Timely P.R.O.P.* PING!

Spanish Muslims issue FATWA against Osama Bim Laden!

Are we certain this story did not come from Teddy Kennedy and he really meant that there was a FATWA against Barack Obama? Stay tuned, INFIDEL boys and girls!

*(Phony Religion Of Peace)

A.A.C.


22 posted on 03/10/2005 12:08:31 PM PST by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: Fatalis

Man, you think I would remember that. Oh, wait, maybe I do. Gosh, I think I'm having serious news overload! Thank you!
sundero


23 posted on 03/10/2005 12:10:41 PM PST by brytlea
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Somebody say "dueling"
24 posted on 03/10/2005 12:11:01 PM PST by itssoamusing
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To: Fatalis

I believe that you have to have the Moola before you can have a Fatwa!!


25 posted on 03/10/2005 12:11:42 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Sit nomen Dómini benedíctum,Ex hoc nunc, et usque in sæculum! per ómnia saecula saeculórum)
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To: MikeA; dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; TrueBeliever9; Geist Krieger; JohnHuang2; Salem; Sanch; ...
IT'S ALL IN THE FATWA - ping.

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Spanish Muslims issue fatwa against Al-Qaeda's Osama Bin Laden.

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Speaking of 'FATWAs' . . .

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Killing the Americans and their allies--civilians and military--is an individual duty for every Muslim.

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Text of Fatwah Urging Jihad Against Americans

Published in Al-Quds al-'Arabi on Febuary 23, 1998

Statement signed by Sheikh Usamah Bin-Muhammad Bin-Ladin; Ayman al-Zawahiri, leader of the Jihad Group in Egypt; Abu- Yasir Rifa'i Ahmad Taha, a leader of the Islamic Group; Sheikh Mir Hamzah, secretary of the Jamiat-ul-Ulema-e-Pakistan; and Fazlul Rahman, leader of the Jihad Movement in Bangladesh

Praise be to God, who revealed the Book, controls the clouds, defeats factionalism, and says in His Book "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)"; and peace be upon our Prophet, Muhammad Bin-'Abdallah, who said "I have been sent with the sword between my hands to ensure that no one but God is worshipped, God who put my livelihood under the shadow of my spear and who inflicts humiliation and scorn on those who disobey my orders." The Arabian Peninsula has never--since God made it flat, created its desert, and encircled it with seas--been stormed by any forces like the crusader armies now spreading in it like locusts, consuming its riches and destroying its plantations. All this is happening at a time when nations are attacking Muslims like people fighting over a plate of food. In the light of the grave situation and the lack of support, we and you are obliged to discuss current events, and we should all agree on how to settle the matter.

No one argues today about three facts that are known to everyone; we will list them, in order to remind everyone:

First, for over seven years the United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places, the Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors, and turning its bases in the Peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight the neighboring Muslim peoples.

If some people have formerly debated the fact of the occupation, all the people of the Peninsula have now acknowledged it.

The best proof of this is the Americans' continuing aggression against the Iraqi people using the Peninsula as a staging post, even though all its rulers are against their territories being used to that end, still they are helpless. Second, despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance, and despite the huge number of those killed, in excess of 1 million... despite all this, the Americans are once against trying to repeat the horrific massacres, as though they are not content with the protracted blockade imposed after the ferocious war or the fragmentation and devastation.

So now they come to annihilate what is left of this people and to humiliate their Muslim neighbors.

Third, if the Americans' aims behind these wars are religious and economic, the aim is also to serve the Jews' petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem and murder of Muslims there.

The best proof of this is their eagerness to destroy Iraq, the strongest neighboring Arab state, and their endeavor to fragment all the states of the region such as Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Sudan into paper statelets and through their disunion and weakness to guarantee Israel's survival and the continuation of the brutal crusade occupation of the Peninsula.

All these crimes and sins committed by the Americans are a clear declaration of war on God, his messenger, and Muslims. And ulema have throughout Islamic history unanimously agreed that the jihad is an individual duty if the enemy destroys the Muslim countries. This was revealed by Imam Bin-Qadamah in "Al- Mughni," Imam al-Kisa'i in "Al- Bada'i," al-Qurtubi in his interpretation, and the shaykh of al-Islam in his books, where he said "As for the militant struggle, it is aimed at defending sanctity and religion, and it is a duty as agreed. Nothing is more sacred than belief except repulsing an enemy who is attacking religion and life."

On that basis, and in compliance with God's order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims

The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies--civilians and military--is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty God, "and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together," and "fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God."

This is in addition to the words of Almighty God "And why should ye not fight in the cause of God and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated and oppressed--women and children, whose cry is 'Our Lord, rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will help!'"

We -- with God's help -- call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson.

Almighty God said "O ye who believe, give your response to God and His Apostle, when He calleth you to that which will give you life. And know that God cometh between a man and his heart, and that it is He to whom ye shall all be gathered."

Almighty God also says "O ye who believe, what is the matter with you, that when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of God, ye cling so heavily to the earth! Do ye prefer the life of this world to the hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For God hath power over all things."

Almighty God also says "So lose no heart, nor fall into despair. For ye must gain mastery if ye are true in faith."

26 posted on 03/10/2005 12:12:14 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Government is not the solution to our problem, government *IS* the problem.)
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To: kitkat
And just what does that mean? It sounds like an empty threat against Bin Laden! It sounds like something the new communist head of Spain dreamed up to shut the people up.

It's the Islamic cycle again. Perpetrate atrocities, act contrite, get rewarded.

Arafat did it for years. Abu Mahzen is doing it now.

27 posted on 03/10/2005 12:12:16 PM PST by Fatalis
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To: brytlea

"I thought it was decided it was ETA, which I thought was not Muslim. Have I missed something?"

Yes.


28 posted on 03/10/2005 12:14:35 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: brytlea

The Aznar government blamed ETA. They determined (fairly quickly) that it was Islamic terrorists. PP (Aznar's party) lost the election as a result.

There was a Discovery documentary on this that has been running recently. I forget all the particulars, but the Spainiards located the terrorists, went to intercept them at their apartment (outside Madrid), and the terrorists decided to blow themselves up rather than get caught.

Recently the Spainish government has also released info that those terrorists that were killed in their apartment also had prelimiary sketched of Gran Central Station in NYC.


29 posted on 03/10/2005 12:16:07 PM PST by Betis70
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To: Happy2BMe

BTTT


30 posted on 03/10/2005 12:16:11 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: AmericanArchConservative; All
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Muslims issue bin Laden fatwa

31 posted on 03/10/2005 12:19:44 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: MikeA

So what's the count now with respect to OBL? 234242424234 to 1 in favor?


32 posted on 03/10/2005 12:20:56 PM PST by SengirV
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To: Betis70

yeah, I'm dumb! I cannot believe I forgot all of that until ya'll reminded me. Goodness. I hope I didn't just give my gender a bad name!!!
I'm going to blame it on my meds....
susie


33 posted on 03/10/2005 12:22:58 PM PST by brytlea
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To: antoninartaud

Deja Vu ping.


34 posted on 03/10/2005 12:23:18 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: MikeA
Most Muslim leaders here in the U.S. and Europe have refused to do this. That is why I don't care for Islam and don't want to here any crap about most Muslims being good people. If Muslims wanted people to see them differently than the scumbag terrorist(Which most Islamic leaders sympathize with) they should have all declared a fatwa against Bin Laden right after 9/11.

I also wouldn't be surprised if this group that is issuing a fatwa against Bin Laden supports, or at least, sympathizes with groups like Hamas who target and kill innocent Jewish women and children. You rarely find a Muslim who honestly condemns all terrorism.
35 posted on 03/10/2005 12:24:55 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (PRESSURE BUSH TO CLOSE THE BORDERS!!!)
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To: AmericanArchConservative
As I mentioned in the other thread... Let the civil war within Islam begin!

The Muslims are still all excited over the reopening of a Mosque in the shadows of Alhambra, Granada (Andalusia/Spain) and hearing the dog-like howl of the Adhan there for the first time in 500 years.

It's interesting tho... as they opened it, there was a conference in Granada about "Islam in Europe" and the keynote speaker was Umar Ibrahim Vadillo, leader of Murabitun.

Mr Vadillo said America's economic interests had become the religion of the world and that people slavishly adjusted their lifestyles to suit the capitalist model.

But he said capitalism cannot sustain itself and is bound to collapse.

Disapproval of terror

Mr Vadillo, a Spanish Muslim, called on all followers of Islam to stop using western currencies such as the dollar, the pound and the euro and instead to return to the use of the gold dinar.

He said the introduction of the gold dinar to the world's economies would be the single most unifying event for Muslims in the modern era.

Shortly afterwards, he said, the capitalist structure would quickly fall and it would make the Wall Street crash of 1929 seem minor by comparison. The conference also heard from Abu Bakr Rieger, a German Muslim.

He said Islam could only be practised in Europe in a traditional way, not in one adapted to European values and structures.

He also said private terrorism would find no approval among European Muslims.

As you can gather, they see the reintroduction of the Gold Dinar as just an intermediate step unify and strenghten the Ummah... the universal Gold Dinar is the currency of the pan-Islamic Kaliphate.

Note they also warn against innovations and adaptations to Islam. It's considered bidah.

36 posted on 03/10/2005 12:26:27 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: MikeA
.........The Commission has also drawn up a document designed to 'thank the Spanish people and the government for their attitude towards Muslims' since last March 11, in particular for not taking 'disproportionate' measures similar to those which the Sept 11 attacks sparked in the US.

The hell with this crap. 'disproportionate' measures indeed! This is just another way to hurl slurs at the USA. Spain and their muslims can 'Shove It'.

37 posted on 03/10/2005 12:26:27 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: MikeA

Mike,
Help me out on this now...

If Spanish muslims issued a fatwa against Osama, and by extension, the muslims who follow him...

whose heads do the Spaniards get to cut off? Will they go to Pakistan, or wherever Osama is, and start setting off car bombs?

Me confused.


38 posted on 03/10/2005 12:26:36 PM PST by Gefreiter (When seconds count, the police are minutes away.)
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To: Lee'sGhost

Ping.


39 posted on 03/10/2005 12:27:15 PM PST by Dog (FReepers-- - -- --- We are a battery of 80,000 bullsh*t-seeking missiles.)
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To: Happy2BMe
LOL! That John Wayne pic always makes me chuckle.

40 posted on 03/10/2005 12:28:07 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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