Posted on 03/10/2005 10:29:08 AM PST by West Coast Conservative
In high real estate value areas, like the New York metro it has been known to happen. For instance in 1987 the New York metro housing market tumbled and people were "upside down" (the mortgage is more than the resale value) until 1994.
$161,767.00 in net wealth for every man, woman, and child in the U.S. is beyond "prosperity" so far as to warrant the term "rich."
There's never been national wealth at this level in any country in all of world history.
That's such an important statement I feel like putting it to music. Down here in the jungle a guy can do a good job of raising a family for just a dollar an hour. I'm talking two bedroom house, electricity, phone, food, healthcare, schooling, yadda, and yadda.
But stateside the dems decry the agony of the 'poor' that have a car, microwave, a house, color tv, phone, and they don't even have to sweep up a dirt floor like people here do. The US victim class has gone off the deep end with the complaining bit-- there's absolutely nothing that can ever happen that they could possibly accept as being "good".
I like your positive attitude! I am grateful to God that we have all the basics and a nice home, I just resent articles that claim how rich our nation is. Seems my parents and grandparents generation owned their own homes before 50 and only needed on parent to bring home the bacon.
"In truth, at least in my experience, "Class" is more a matter of self image and attitude than of income measured in dollars."
Good point.
Nope, not above average :^)
If your wealth is below average while you live in a high-cost area, then you are probably dooming yourself to a lifetime of financial anxiety...not good for your stress level.
But hey, it's a free country. Everyone gets to make their own decisions in such matters.
$48.53 trillion divided by 480 million US citizens = $121,325 per person.
The professional pessimists constantly rant about the 'death of the middle class', outsourcing, deficits, illegal immigration. At the same time the American family has been socking it away. Dang, if this is the economic catastrophy we've been hearing about, who need's prosperity?
Since this report says nothing about the distribution of wealth, it likewise says nothing about the health of the middle class. In addition, I notice that the media has still not learned how to correct numbers for inflation. I took a closer look at the report and used it to generate the following table:
TOTAL NET WORTH OF HOUSEHOLDS AND NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS (billions of dollars) Total Major Major Net constant % of Euros Currency $ per Currency Year Qtr Worth 2000 $ GDP (bil) 2000 $ CPI GDP Euro Index ---- --- ------- ------- ----- ------- ------- ----- ------- ------ ------- 1993 24188.9 28825.8 363.3 21721.4 21504.1 144.5 6657.4 1.1136 92.0083 1994 24841.8 28864.8 351.3 20067.7 20898.2 148.2 7072.2 1.2379 87.0656 1995 27709.9 31310.0 374.6 21988.5 23145.5 152.4 7397.7 1.2602 86.4478 1996 30297.5 33251.9 387.6 25047.5 26356.4 156.9 7816.9 1.2096 90.0327 1997 34039.9 36521.3 409.9 31318.3 32392.0 160.5 8304.3 1.0869 98.4853 1998 37523.7 39641.6 429.0 32373.1 34250.2 163.0 8747.0 1.1591 94.4668 1999 42444.8 43871.5 458.0 41896.0 39393.6 166.6 9268.4 1.0131 96.0556 2000 42073.9 42073.9 428.6 44874.0 42073.9 172.2 9817.0 0.9376 103.4955 2001 41258.3 40116.8 407.4 46714.6 44329.6 177.1 10128.0 0.8832 111.1998 2002 39617.7 37922.0 377.8 37297.8 37806.4 179.9 10487.0 1.0622 98.7638 2003 Q1 39623.2 37284.8 368.8 36478.7 37007.3 183.0 10744.6 1.0862 96.6628 Q2 41400.1 38815.4 380.4 36427.7 37173.1 183.7 10884.0 1.1365 92.9284 Q3 42248.5 39417.7 380.0 36066.7 36248.1 184.6 11116.7 1.1714 88.7965 Q4 44582.6 41587.9 395.6 35276.6 36344.5 184.6 11270.9 1.2638 84.3714 2004 Q1 45352.5 41927.5 395.3 37828.4 38307.4 186.3 11472.6 1.1989 87.4184 Q2 46018.1 41942.4 394.8 37516.8 38418.9 188.9 11657.5 1.2266 86.4048 Q3 46589.7 42314.1 394.3 37250.9 37928.0 189.6 11814.9 1.2507 84.2542 Q4 48525.4 43810.2 405.5 36977.4 38004.7 190.7 11967.0 1.3123 81.0568 Note: Euro exchange rate before 1999 is Foreign Exchange Rate: Euro Community Source: Flow of Funds Accounts of the United States, Q4 2004, Tables B.100, B.100.e, online at http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/Z1/Current/z1.pdf; 2004 Economic Report of the President, Tables B-1 and B-60; http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/EXUSEC/downloaddata/EXUSEC.txt; http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/EXUSEU/downloaddata/EXUSEU.txt; http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/TWEXMMTH/downloaddata/TWEXMMTH.txt
As can be seen, after adjusting for inflation, total net worth is slightly below the high that it reached at the end of 1999. As a percentage of GDP, it is 88.5 percent of its 1999 high. Most interesting, perhaps, is the value of total net worth in terms of foreign currencies. Measured in Euros, total net worth is about 79 percent of the high that it reached at the end of 2001. Adjusted using the Trade Weighted Exchange Index for Major Currencies, net worth is about 86 percent of its 2001 high. Hence, we should look at the numbers a little more closely before we spend too much on ice cream and party hats.
Thanks,
"total net worth is about 79 percent of the high that it reached at the end of 2001. Adjusted using the Trade Weighted Exchange Index for Major Currencies, net worth is about 86 percent of its 2001 high. Hence, we should look at the numbers a little more closely before we spend too much on ice cream and party hats."
Correct. Nice chart you put together. The driving inflation in energy, real estate and prescription drugs and their trickle down effect being the biggest driving factors, no doubt.
Oh no, U.S. wealth is down when measured in ... drum roll ... EURO's!
BWAA Ha ha!
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- (1) family wealth/cpi as of the end of last year not is not yet quite equal to that of the last peak;
- (2) the real wealth that families have now is a smaller percentage of gdp than it was back in 1999 when the economy was smaller;
- (3) there's always the hope that the possibility that none of this wealth has gone to the middle class and may have gone instead to someone else's quintile;
- (4) back in 2000 our wealth could have been traded for more European goods than our current wealth can today;
These points can be good for arguing about politics or for making the future look grim. OTOH, I wouldn't recommend making any business or investing decisions based on that slant-- unless of course your goal is to qualify for increased government assistance next year. ;-)
I'm not saying that the news is bad. Household net worth went up last quarter, just like it does in nearly every non-recession quarter, just as does prices, revenues, and GDP. The fact that it hit a new record (unadjusted for inflation) is about as big a news item as the fact that the GDP hit a new record.
- (1) family wealth/cpi as of the end of last year not is not yet quite equal to that of the last peak;
The key point is that the numbers should be at least corrected for inflation. It appears that nobody in the so-called liberal media has thought to do this. As is often the case, they are just regurgitating the numbers that they are fed. The Flow of Funds report doesn't contain the inflation-adjusted figures (perhaps it should) so the media doesn't report them.
- (2) the real wealth that families have now is a smaller percentage of gdp than it was back in 1999 when the economy was smaller;
Not having done a long-term study of household net worth, I don't know if it has tracked GDP over the long-term. Many existing assets may track inflation (real estate being a current exception). However, wages tend to track GDP over the long run and those wages add to new wealth. Hence, I suspect that household net worth tends to rise faster than inflation but possibly slower than GDP.
- (3) there's always [the hope that] the possibility that none of this wealth has gone to the middle class and may have gone instead to someone else's quintile;
You should really learn how to delete your Freudian slips rather than just crossing them out! ;) In any case, I was just answering your statement that "The professional pessimists constantly rant about the 'death of the middle class'". The fact is, this report says absolutely nothing about middle class. It gives the totals for the entire population of households (and nonprofit organizations), irrespective of class.
- (4) back in 2000 our wealth could have been traded for more European goods than our current wealth can today;
This is another tough issue as it's difficult to know the exact repercussions of the dropping dollar. To somebody who was going to retire in Europe (or any other nation against whose currency the dollar has dropped), it would be a major concern. To people who buy imports, it's a varying concern. Some imports, such as oil, have been seriously affected while others have not. In any case, it's not possible to know exactly what the final effects will be.
These points can be good for arguing about politics or for making the future look grim. OTOH, I wouldn't recommend making any business or investing decisions based on that slant-- unless of course your goal is to qualify for increased government assistance next year. ;-)
Likewise, I would not recommend making any business or investing decisions based on the fact that household net worth, unadjusted for inflation, has gone up as it does in nearly every non-recession year. However, I complement you for posting a graph of net worth containing inflation-adjusted numbers. As I'm sure you agree, these numbers are much more meaningful than the unadjusted numbers. In any case, following is a graph derived from the table in my prior post:
FWIW, during the beginning of an expansion it's good to buy stocks, and at the beginning of a recession it's best to sell --although it also depends on just which ones you're selling and buying but I digress. Bottom line: thanks for the heads up on how inflation and currency indexes affect family wealth-- I agree, your points are valid.
Now where did I put my party hat...
Now where did I put my party hat...
Thanks. I agree that we seem to be basically on the same page. Anyhow, I hope you find your party hat and get some more ice cream. Having a party is perfectly fine. I only suggested that we not spend too much on ice cream and party hats, especially that increasingly expensive FOREIGN ice cream and party hats!
The Panamanian icecream that we buy here is about a fourth the price I pay for Bluebell icecream in Texas.
Let me know the next time you're down this way-- the icecream is especially good with the fresh locally grown coffee.
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