Under Siege in Arizona

Tucson Weekly ^ | March 10, 2005 | LEO W. BANKS

[Monterrosa-24]

"Thanx, I've read Gibbon and those are not facts.."

You are the one who makes subjective statements. I gave you and accredited quotation. Give me some stats or an acredited opinion showing Italy in 430 being free of massive immigration. If you are so educated and familiar with contemporary authors (modern often equals a decline in scholarship) it should be no problem.

[Teplukin]

Teplukin has decided that the winner of this debate is Bigsigh. Sorry Monterr, but BigSigh is remarkably good. He is quipped with amazing intellectual firepower including a big vocabulary, an extensive knowlege of the literature of the Late Roman Empire, and a strong confidence in his own abilities

Don't be upset Monterr, I doubt I could defeat BigSigh in a debate. BigSigh is one the elite Freeper Posters.

[Monterrosa-24]

I'll try to hold back the tears...sniff..sob...choke

[TheLion]

For every guest worker that is doing right by the system, there will be hundreds of others who will still be pouring over the borders. The whole world is coming here for the free lunch.

[TheLion]

Everyone in DC needs to be voted out! The people need to let their elected officials know this!

[swampfox98]

I have Arizona Highway magazine in mint condition dating back to the 1930's.

I have them from 1960. I don't re read them, as I tend to cry when I realize what our politicians and open borders citizens have brought onto this beautiful land.

I don't know if you are a Bible student, but there is a passage in the New Testament that speaks of people being blinded in the last days. Of course, this is not a literal blindness, but is means people are blind as to what is happening around them. Some ignore the truth because it makes them popular; some ignore the truth because they are being paid by the enemy to stifle the truth, and some are just your normal type suck ups.

Put it all together and we have the death of America at the hands of its politicians and citizens.

[adam_az]

>"So, am I misunderstanding when I hear that the residents are being prohibited from carrying rifles in the back country there?"

- Probably only on National Park land, National Forest Land, Indian reservations, Dept. of Defense land, BLM land, National Wildlife refuges, and various other govt. land...

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I don't think so - that's all legally huntable land... with rifle.

[FBD]

>"I don't think so - that's all legally huntable land... with rifle."<

Thanks- I need to make some corrections:
I've never hunted on BLM, military or an Indian Reservation.
I understand you can, but there are restrictions. You can hunt in designated areas in a National Wildlife refuge, with a permit.
I don't know what the rules are for handguns, do you?

BLM: You can hunt on BLM land, but it's my understanding you can't have a loaded gun in your vehicle.

I did a little research, and these are restricted areas for guns, and hunting:
Land designated as a military reservation, a unit of the National Park System, an area within the national wildlife refuge system, an Indian reservation or other Indian trust lands.

Indian Reservations: A special permit required, for limited public hunting. You can't hunt on a reservation without a special permit granted to you by the tribal govt.

National Parks: You cannot bring a gun into a National Park, unless it is disassembled. Trust me on this one, I know this one firsthand. I'm pretty sure most military installations are the same.

But I don't know about Dept of Defense land, since you're in AZ, you would know more about this, I'm sure.

Regards

[adam_az]

Theres lots of land you CAN bring a rifle on, with a hunting or other use permit

State trust land - there's a lot of this
National FOREST land - this is much bigger than national park land.
BLM land, never heard about the no gun restriction? I've packed on BLM land before.

Reservations, you can get hunting permits online for most of them. You can't 4x4 or whatever on reservations anyway. I've been in AZ for 14 years and I haven't had a reason to enter a reservation yet. Though I might try one for quail this fall.

[FBD]

yeah, I knew you could hunt on Nat. Forest land, as opposed to a national park.
That was a typo error on my part.


Something about hunting on a reservation just doesn't seem like that good of an idea. I had a good friend get in trouble on an Indian Reservation, for a minor infraction his kid caused.

His lawyer advised him that an Indian reservation isn't the place to get into trouble with their laws.

Thanks for the info, and have fun quail hunting this fall.

Regards

[FBD]

RE: >"BLM land, never heard about the no gun restriction?"<


http://www.rkba.org/ca/blm-ukiah
Subject: BLM: Supplemental Rules from the Federal Register


[Federal Register / Vol. 60. No. 3 / Thursday Jan. 5, 1995]

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR

Bureau of Land Management

[CA-050-1220-00-24-1A]

Supplemental Shooting Regulations

AGENCY: Bureau of Land Management.
(snip)

(8) No person shall transport in a vehicle or conveyance or
its attachments on any public road a firearm unless it is
unloaded or dismantled.

[bigsigh]

The would be no accurate stats showing Italy's migration. You keep asking me to show stats to disprove what you said. How about posting some facts and stats of your own then we can see if you have anything but smoke behind you.

[HighFlier]

Why don't you try reading the article?

If it doesn't move you to want to take action, just where does your loyalty lie?

[HighFlier]

If they're breaking the law it's fair to go after them.