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To: Mongeaux

You are making the logical error of seein a result and automatically assuming that BECAUSE OF the result you observe, then the assumption you made in the first place MUST be true. Correlation does not mean causation. The fact that everyone born in 1800 is dead does not mean that air is poisonous to humans after prolonged exposure.

The chances of 200 amino acids just happening to get together in a way that could be considered life is 1 in 200! (read 200 factoral) and is calculated by multiplying 1 times 2 times 3 ... times 199 times 200. Yse your Windows calculator to verify the result. It is 1 chance in 7.886578e+374 (374 zeros after the decimal). And we know that to form even the most simple lifeform requires a much longer chain of amino acids and protiens. Any mathmetician will tell you that this chance is the equivalent of zero.


158 posted on 03/09/2005 4:55:16 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

"The chances of 200 amino acids just happening to get together in a way that could be considered life is 1 in 200! (read 200 factoral) and is calculated by multiplying 1 times 2 times 3 ... times 199 times 200. Yse your Windows calculator to verify the result. It is 1 chance in 7.886578e+374 (374 zeros after the decimal). And we know that to form even the most simple lifeform requires a much longer chain of amino acids and protiens. Any mathmetician will tell you that this chance is the equivalent of zero."

How can you argue with that?

You convinced me: the Big Guy sitting in a cloud is a more reasonable explanation for the creation of the Universe than Evolution. The Math proves it!

Gee those ancient tribal nomads sure had it on the ball, huh? They were right and modern science is wrong


164 posted on 03/09/2005 5:00:26 PM PST by Mongeaux
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The chances of 200 amino acids just happening to get together in a way that could be considered life is 1 in 200! (read 200 factoral) and is calculated by multiplying 1 times 2 times 3 ... times 199 times 200. Yse your Windows calculator to verify the result. It is 1 chance in 7.886578e+374 (374 zeros after the decimal). And we know that to form even the most simple lifeform requires a much longer chain of amino acids and protiens. Any mathmetician will tell you that this chance is the equivalent of zero.
Bad model. It's always the same bad model. It's not evolution, it's creation. Even God wouldn't make anything this way.

You're impossible under this model. The amino acids of your body would never jump together to make you. You cannot be.

Mainstream science models involve features the "little things jumping together all at once" creationist strawmen do not. Bootstrapping from stable and semi-stable sub-assemblies. Massive parallelism of experiment. Some kind of logical scenario identifying ingredients, environment, catalysts, etc.

Three papers on current abiogenesis research.

202 posted on 03/09/2005 5:57:53 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
" . Any mathmetician will tell you that this chance is the equivalent of zero.

Ah, but zee mathematicians aren't tenured Darwin-approvedbiologistes!!! What could zey possibly know?

513 posted on 03/10/2005 11:16:29 AM PST by cookcounty (LooneyLibLine: "The ONLY reason for Operation Iraqi FREEDOM was WMD!!" ((repeat til brain is numb))
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