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Man Ticketed For Selling Girl Scout Cookies With Daughter
WNBC Television ^ | 3/8/2005 | Puppage

Posted on 03/08/2005 8:46:17 AM PST by Puppage

NEW YORK -- A Long Island man was ticketed in Brooklyn for selling Girl Scout cookies with his 13-year-old daughter.

Hoi Louis was in Williamsburg delivering the cookies with his daughter over the weekend. Louis said it was his old neighborhood, before he moved to Bethpage, and he and his daughter have been selling Girl Scout cookies there since his daughter was in first grade.

At 4:50 p.m. Saturday a police captain and a uniformed officer pulled up to their van as they were unloading cookies. Louis said the captain from the 94th Precinct ticketed him for selling cookies without a license.

The NYPD said the man and his daughter were not delivering the cookies, but instead were selling the cookies from a table they had set up on the street.

The child's grandmother, who was in the van, said her granddaughter was frightened by the police and the girl's father was flabbergasted.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; US: New York; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: cookies; donutwatch; girlscouts; govwatch; gsa; leo; leosgonewild
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To: Protagoras

What's the word on all the fraud associated with girl scout cookies? I actually researched the breakdown and it was fairer than most any other I've seen. Do you think someone's out there baking counterfeit cookies for $2 a box and then selling out of vans for $3.50? I hadn't heard.


41 posted on 03/08/2005 9:08:56 AM PST by Bogeygolfer
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To: OldFriend

You said it.


42 posted on 03/08/2005 9:09:39 AM PST by Gabz (Wanna join my tag team?)
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To: Protagoras
well my neighborhood, Orange County, CA, is loaded with "Mackerel Snappers" and practically everybody gives up sweets for Lent...
43 posted on 03/08/2005 9:11:32 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Puppage

This is right up there with cops shutting down lemonade stands.

I fear for the republic.


44 posted on 03/08/2005 9:11:32 AM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: easymoney
In my neighborhood, a local kid set up a "FREE LEMONADE" stand. He manned it almost every weekend all summer.

The lemonade was really free, and he had a tip jar. He made more money on tips than he would have selling the stuff...

Some a##hole reported him to the police for peddling without a license...of course, as soon as the police determined he wasn't peddling anything the kid wwas off the hook for the time being....

Then someone complained about the kid's "safety" and the police were back...

The following weekend was his last weekend giving away free lemonade...his parents decided that the harassment wasn't worth whatever money the kid was trying to make...

People these days are just plain mean spirited, and the police are too easily coopted into being the blunt instrument of the mean spirited...

45 posted on 03/08/2005 9:11:36 AM PST by steve in DC
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To: Labyrinthos
...some neighborhorhood politician didn't like the idea of this Long Island girl cashing in on his daughter's cookie territory, so he called the cops...

Ya think? ;>)

46 posted on 03/08/2005 9:11:41 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: wyattearp

"If it was illegal aliens selling drugs instead of a girl scout selling cookies, I'm sure the cops would have looked the other way."

Or if they were tree hugging socialist gay-lesbian selling AIDS ribbons and vegan cookies.


47 posted on 03/08/2005 9:13:56 AM PST by CATravelAgent (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: Guillermo

Where in my post did I say I agree with the tight A** cops ticketing the dad? I don't agree with that, a warning would have been more appropriate in this case. Your response is reasonable.

But the family whining about it, and some posters here starting to make a case for them is not appropriate.

If there is one thing I learned so far in life, it's this...if you screw up, take your medicine, learn from it and move on. Don't whine and bit** about it seeking sympathy. That seems to be a lesson this family hasn't learned yet.

Cheers!


48 posted on 03/08/2005 9:14:35 AM PST by SZonian (Tagline???? I don't need no stinkin' tagline!)
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To: easymoney
What's the word on all the fraud associated with girl scout cookies?

They "forget" to turn in the money.

Do you think someone's out there baking counterfeit cookies for $2 a box and then selling out of vans for $3.50?

Why not? If you watch the Salvation Army and other collection boxes you will catch people diving in, taking the stuff and it turns up at resale stores and flea markets.

49 posted on 03/08/2005 9:16:09 AM PST by Protagoras (If the Republican Party enacts a new tax they will be out of power for at least a generation)
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To: Protagoras

The girl scouts get a surprising percentage of the total price. My wife is a troop leader and I have a garage full of the stuff. One of the dad's raised the same argument that you did and just wanted to complain in general. I looked it up and while it's true the local troop only gets a small percentage, a much larger percentage goes to the national organization. I had expected it to be like the average school fund raiser where maybe 25% is paid out and was pleasantly surprised. As for some people not paying at the end of the day, you'll always have a percentage of non collectibles in any endeavor. This is one of the best from any perspective IMHO.


50 posted on 03/08/2005 9:16:24 AM PST by Bogeygolfer
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To: easymoney
while it's true the local troop only gets a small percentage, a much larger percentage goes to the national organization.

And what do you get for that from the "national"?

51 posted on 03/08/2005 9:18:10 AM PST by Protagoras (If the Republican Party enacts a new tax they will be out of power for at least a generation)
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To: SZonian
They should have used an ASP on her and then cuffed her and dragged her down to the station for further interrogations. Who knows what else they were up to. Now, because of s;oppy police work, we will never know.
52 posted on 03/08/2005 9:18:22 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Puppage

Gee, when I used to live in NYC, the police had more real things to look out for like MURDER, RAPE, ASSULT, BURGLARY, ROBBERY, you know, REAL THINGS!


53 posted on 03/08/2005 9:19:32 AM PST by garyhope
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To: Protagoras
As long as the Girl Scouts get the money.

When I was a Girl Scout, and admittedly this was a long time ago, we took orders for the cookies, and then went around delivering the cookies after they arrived. As many boxes of cookies as were ordered, that's how many were sent to the troop for distribution. No more, no less.

Nobody ordered boxes and boxes of cookies in order to set up a stand on the street and HOPEFULLY get all their money back by selling them.

So unless the Girl Scouts have changed a lot, something's funny here, and it ain't the police...

54 posted on 03/08/2005 9:20:06 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: clee1

Blue state idiots...we want the government to run our lives and the police to ticket girl scouts. It's more important to society to rid the streets of girls scouts!


55 posted on 03/08/2005 9:20:22 AM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: Puppage

I'll bet they confiscated the cookies! ;)


56 posted on 03/08/2005 9:20:24 AM PST by tioga
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To: hellinahandcart

my daughter was a brownie and sold GS cookies up to a year or so ago. Yes, you deliver only what has been ordered, but the troops themselves can order more than that and they will set up (with permission) in front of the Safeway or elsewhere, with a table and sell cookies on the spot. i have NEVER seen anyone set up in a neighborhood though. it is generally in a commercial strip area and the troop has to obtain permission.


57 posted on 03/08/2005 9:22:38 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Logical me

The libs hate scouting because it imparts "VALUES". And that word is something they can't live with. They don't wan't good citizens, they want automatons they can mold into their distorted way of thinking.

Scouting teaches independent thinking but with reason.

When have you heard a lib use reason?

Cheers!


58 posted on 03/08/2005 9:23:00 AM PST by SZonian (Tagline???? I don't need no stinkin' tagline!)
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To: Puppage

Man, I dunno - after my third box of Thin Mints I began to suspect the little darlings of putting heroin in 'em. I shoulda knowed - that freckle-faced fiend shoved a box and a cup of black coffee into my hand winked at me and said "here y'go, Mister - first one's free..."


59 posted on 03/08/2005 9:23:27 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Protagoras

You'd be surprised but I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate it. Do you think the national organization of mostly volunteers is jet setting around the globe form convention to convention or perhaps buying outrageous gifts for their loved ones or worse yet donating the hard earned revenue off the backs of little girls to UNICEF and Kofi Annan? National orgs cost money. They provide structure and continuity and a host of intanigibles. They also provide basics like liability insurance for troop leaders, etc. It's a volunteer organization.


60 posted on 03/08/2005 9:25:04 AM PST by Bogeygolfer
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