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Sen. George Allen for President?
NewsMax ^ | 3/7/05 | Kathleen Antrim

Posted on 03/07/2005 6:12:22 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: Servant of the 9; wagglebee
Anyone who has his resume and is not a household name, and not just among movement republicans, hasn't got that little bit of "Elvis" it takes to be a poitical superstar or beat Hillary.
Is he overage in grade? People who attain the governorship of a state and don't get to be at least VP within 14 years of that time, ain't gonna be elected president. When was Allen first elected governor? If it was after '94, he is still a prospect.

41 posted on 03/07/2005 7:46:38 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: wagglebee
Anyone that would call the Virginia car tax insignificant would not have a clue.

However, he, Allen, has thrown the Virginia tobacco farmer's butts under the bus every time he has had a chance. I've know several people that have sent him letters about disability claims and vet. problems and they have never received a reply from his office.
42 posted on 03/07/2005 7:53:22 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: Servant of the 9

How well known was Michael Dukakis before he ran for president? Back then, the supposed superstar of the Democrats was Gary Hart, before his little boating adventure was found out. Then Dukakis came along and won the nomination. He was up 15 points over Vice President Bush at one time (before Bush exposed his liberal record to the public). For someone who wasn't well known, the public was at one time ready to vote him into office quite handily.

If nominated, a candidate has a fifty/fifty shot at becoming president. That goes for both sides.


43 posted on 03/07/2005 7:59:17 PM PST by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief (Any Freepers who enjoy fantasy, I welcome to look at my FR homepage to take a look at my new book)
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To: wagglebee

Yes, but everyone knew she was in Iraq. I don't recall seeing or hearing anything about Sen. Allen being in Iraq and his meeting until now.


44 posted on 03/07/2005 8:28:27 PM PST by Seattle Conservative (Seattle Conservative)
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To: org.whodat; wagglebee; Coop; Gabz; Mudboy Slim; iceskater
Anyone that would call the Virginia car tax insignificant would not have a clue.

How significant it is depends a lot on your locality.

However, wagglebee is partially correct about the "elimination" of the tax. I've said it here dozens, if not hundreds of times.

It was brilliant campaign strategy. It was poor policy.

The tax was NOT, and will not be "eliminated." You are still assessed your car tax just as you always were. The difference now is that the state pays a significant portion of that car tax. The locality still gets the same amount of money.

So, what the car tax bill did/does is eliminate a source of revenue (the taxpayer) and increase state expenditures on behalf of the taxpayer.

Now, having said that, it was not the car tax alone that caused the budget problems during the Gilmore administration. It's just not that simple.

45 posted on 03/07/2005 8:40:15 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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To: org.whodat
I've know several people that have sent him letters about disability claims and vet. problems and they have never received a reply from his office.

With all due respect, I'm skeptical about that.

I have first hand knowledge that was not the case when he was Governor. And I also know that he would not be pleased to know he has correspondence that is not being answered. Of that I'm sure.

It may not be the answer you or your acquaintances would like. But if you're not getting any answer, I'd put money on the fact that the Senator is not aware that mail in his office is being ignored.

46 posted on 03/07/2005 8:43:33 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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To: EDINVA; iceskater; xyz123; Mudboy Slim; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; GeorgeW23225; ...

Allen ping.


47 posted on 03/07/2005 8:43:58 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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To: Servant of the 9
Anyone who has his resume and is not a household name, and not just among movement republicans, hasn't got that little bit of "Elvis" it takes to be a poitical superstar or beat Hillary.

Name me one Republican with the name recognition that has the "Elvis" to beat Hillary.

George Allen may not be a household name (yet), but he's got all the "Elvis" he needs.

48 posted on 03/07/2005 8:46:04 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
George Allen may not be a household name (yet), but he's got all the "Elvis" he needs.

Well, he hides it very well then.

So9

49 posted on 03/07/2005 8:47:35 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: Servant of the 9

Have you ever met him?


50 posted on 03/07/2005 8:48:10 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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To: wagglebee

If ANY Senator wants to be a front runner they are going to have to take the lead and pass either A) judges B) G.W.'s domestic proposals for S.S. and tax reform. Preferably both.

Otherwise, my conclusion is that they have already failed the first test of leadership a presidential candidate must exhibit. If you can't beat them in your domain, I am sceptical of the ability to beat them in the General election.


51 posted on 03/07/2005 8:51:01 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: wagglebee

I live in CA and have been following George Allen's career for many years. He was a popular governor and would have been reelected if not for the consecutive-term law that VA has. He will be a senator for as long as he likes...he could even run for governor again and win. Name recognition? Doesn't mean a thing. From what I hear, he's putting together a decent team...his name recognition factor will improve if he decides to push forward with a presidential run...he has the charisma and gravitas to make it happen. Allen could very well be the GOP's brightest hope in '08. He has the advantage of being from a southern state and he also has the necessary intangibles to appeal to voters in the other non-southern red states. Frist just doesn't seem to be able to cut it...not enough intangibles and charisma to capture the imagination of the voters who will decide who the GOP nominee will be.


52 posted on 03/07/2005 9:05:09 PM PST by doctor noe
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To: Servant of the 9
Rudi Giulianni
Arnold
Colin Powell
Codi Rice
Don Rumsfeld

I've got news for you. Hillary would beat All the Above

...but she would not beat Senator Allen, a bona fide conservative.

If you wish Hillary Clinton to be your POTUS come Jan '09 then you be sure to run one of those you've enumerated above.

53 posted on 03/07/2005 9:20:11 PM PST by jla
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To: Servant of the 9
...hasn't got that little bit of "Elvis" it takes to be a poitical superstar or beat Hillary.

You sound exactly like those who were sure that Ronald Reagan could not only ever be elected, but if he did it'd be a catastrophe of epic proportions. And these were Republicans saying this.

America is not interested in any Elvis qualities. America wants, and positively responds to, the truth.

54 posted on 03/07/2005 9:26:31 PM PST by jla
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To: Corin Stormhands
Thanks for the Ping.

We're waiting in the wings

Allen4President.com

55 posted on 03/08/2005 3:38:09 AM PST by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign We Did It! Now on to local issues: http://VirginiaDreamTeam.com)
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To: wagglebee
Oh, I love this comment, it's right on target:
"His easy charm, straight talk, quick wit, mental acuity and experience separate him from the pack of would-be candidates."


56 posted on 03/08/2005 3:43:56 AM PST by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign We Did It! Now on to local issues: http://VirginiaDreamTeam.com)
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To: Servant of the 9
Anyone who has his resume and is not a household name, and not just among movement republicans, hasn't got that little bit of "Elvis" it takes to be a poitical superstar or beat Hillary.

You could put me on the ballot, and the fact that I'm not Hillary would likely be enough "Elvis" to win me the White House.

57 posted on 03/08/2005 5:47:56 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Corin Stormhands; Flora McDonald; Nick The Freeper; iceskater; jla; AdSimp; Coop
"However, wagglebee is partially correct about the "elimination" of the tax. I've said it here dozens, if not hundreds of times. It was brilliant campaign strategy. It was poor policy. The tax was NOT, and will not be "eliminated." You are still assessed your car tax just as you always were. The difference now is that the state pays a significant portion of that car tax. The locality still gets the same amount of money."

Gilmore has always been something less than a right-wing visionary...LOL!! Fact is, he shouldda demanded that local property taxes be made illegal after a transition period, then gradually take the State outta the business of reimbursing folks fer taxes already paid. The transition wouldda given localities time to bump up other taxes to make up the difference in their coffers, but there is no reason folks should be paying taxes on their vehicles, and Gilmore shouldda taken the high road and made personal property taxes ILLEGAL at the State level.

FReegards...MUD

58 posted on 03/08/2005 6:01:27 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (Sweet FReedom, one taste and yer hooked fer life!!)
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To: Mudboy Slim; Corin Stormhands; Flora McDonald; Nick The Freeper; iceskater; jla; AdSimp; Coop

I am not afraid of Hillary. Let's not forget the "Loathe" factor. I predict that decent people will turn out in droves to vote against her no matter who the Republicans run.

Having an attractive, true conservative running against her would be crushing and spells total disaster for the Dims.

Run Hillary Run!


59 posted on 03/08/2005 6:22:03 AM PST by Flora McDonald (Stand the Storm!)
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To: Flora McDonald
"I predict that decent people will turn out in droves to vote against her no matter who the Republicans run."

Yep...especially after four more years of US exposing the HildaBeast's satanic proclivities...MUD

60 posted on 03/08/2005 6:24:31 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (Sweet FReedom, one taste and yer hooked fer life!!)
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