Posted on 03/07/2005 6:12:22 PM PST by wagglebee
How about Gov. Bill Owen of Colorado, with Sen. Allen as V.P.?
Usually, being a senator is the kiss of death for a national candidate. Why should Allen be different?
Do people even read the article or the posts? He is a former governor. He has executive experience. He has legislative experience. He has experience at the state and federal level. He is making overseas trips. He will throw his hat in the ring come primary time. And from what I have heard about him, he is a no-nonsense debater that charms and slips the knife in at the same time, all the while smiling. Most people who win the presidency do not have name recognition the first time out. We got two plus years before the primaries - plenty of time for name recognition.
Granted George Allen is a senator, but he was also a governor, and he is the son of a football legend (which may or may not help, but really can't hurt).
I agree that a sitting (or at least recent) governor is usually a plus (Virginia bars governors from succeeding themselves otherwise Allen certainly would have been re-elected). However, the GOP doesn't have many governors to choose from in 2008. Guiliani and Pataki are pro-choice, Mitt Romney's situation in my opinion depends largely on how he handles the gay marriage issue.
I do not think Condi is a politician.
Politician-in-chief is part of the job.
For that reason, and those you cite, she has no chance at all.
Gee, that's very fascinating commentary - the title SENATOR still sits in front of his name! Get a clue.
Uh, excuse me - you were the one that set the tone. It's also not my fault if you post things that make no sense.
"Usually" is the operative term. it is also true that presidents who lost the popular vote won't win re-election. also, presidents who also had fathers who were presidents don't usually win re-election...all this until Dubya, of course.
Why should Allen be different
his full resume (former governor), and his undeniable talent and charisma.
You're exactly right. also, slick willie was a virtual unknown until he became known.
One final thought on George Allen, he is the son of a beloved legend in the Washington, DC area, I think that when the time comes that he decides to start "asking for favors" among the lifelong Beltway politicos that he will have more support than a lot of people realize.
it's true there may be some terrific prospects out there that have yet to "stir the mix", but then, again, they apparently don't have as much nationwide popularity (among conservatives) as, say, George Allen.
And I've heard all of the "the election is years away, nobody knew who Clinton was in 1989" and all that other crap
But it's true. Actually, George Allen seems to be FAR more widely known among the conservative ranks than Slick Willie was among the lefties before he ran.
Jeb Bush is through FOREVER as far as higher office, he will never be able to overcome the Schiavo questions;
i agree that Jeb sure did not help himself--he certainly did not help himself with me.
George Pataki is way too liberal to get any grass roots conservative backing; Rudy Guiliani (granted he was never a governor, but the argument is that being Mayor of NYC is as demanding a job as all but maybe two or three gubernatorial posts) is popular, but again conservatives will not support a pro-abortion candidate for the top spot;
True. I will NOT vote for a pro-abort.
finally there's Mitt Romney, from what I've seen he's okay, but he doesn't seem to have a lot of charisma and his handling of gay marriage will be a critical factor.
true. btw, is he a mormon? if so, many might find it difficult to vote for a guy who thinks he can become a god.
One final thought on George Allen, he is the son of a beloved legend in the Washington, DC area, I think that when the time comes that he decides to start "asking for favors" among the lifelong Beltway politicos that he will have more support than a lot of people realize.
yes. i'm telling you, George Allen has a LOT more going for him than we've even convered on this thread.
Excellent move, btw! i really think we should keep our eyes on the up-and-coming George Allen. i would not be surprised if he were to gain more and more support at places like FR, and other conservative sites.
You're exactly right, antoninus. and the more i learn of George allen, the more i like him.
I don't know if you have ever had the opportunity to meet George Allen. He is a wonderful man and he was a terrific governor. Virginia has a ridiculous law that a governor cannot succeed himself otherwise he would have won in a landslide; Allen's successor, Republican Jim Gilmore, had zero charisma, zero people skills and allowed the state's budget to spiral into a deficit merely to keep a tax-cut that even many in the GOP realized was going to backfire (and it did). Gilmore screwed the GOP in the 2001 election (Bush quickly "accepted" Gilmore's resignation as RNC chairman) and handed the election to Mark Warner. Warner is probably an "up and comer" in the 'Rat party; to his credit, Warner turned around and solved Gilmore's budget problem brilliantly: he kept Gilmore's tax cut, he CUT state spending by reducing DMV hours and laying off redundant state employees (few politicians in either party have ever actually cut spending, except the 'Rats cutting defense), and then Warner manipulated some moderate Republicans into giving him a sales tax increase.
i'm sure he is. i would love to have the opportunity some day.
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I heard Senator Allen speak tonight at CPAC.
He's weak on abortion, taxes, immigration and the homosexual agenda, to name a few.
Yes. My opinion of Allen dropped considerably after further research.
Hannity wants Allen (should he get nominated) to pick Giuliani as his running mate. Good Grief.
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