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The Secret to Man's Aggression: in His Finger?
Health - Reuters ^ | Fri Mar 4, 2005 | Alison McCook

Posted on 03/05/2005 5:48:53 AM PST by Pharmboy

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - How long a man's second finger is relative to his fourth finger appears to predict whether he is prone to be physically aggressive toward others, according to a new study by researchers at the University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada.

But it's not finger length that causes aggression, study author Allison A. Bailey warned in an interview.

She explained that the important factor is the male hormone testosterone. Fetuses are exposed to various levels of this hormone in the womb, and research shows that men who were exposed to higher levels tend to have shorter second fingers, relative to their fourth fingers. "More testosterone, relatively longer ring finger," co-author Dr. Peter L. Hurd told Reuters Health.

Men with shorter second fingers were probably exposed to more testosterone in the womb, and this may cause them to be more prone to physical aggression later in life, Bailey explained. "More testosterone in the womb predicts more physical aggression in men," she told Reuters Health.

Alternatively, both testosterone exposure and finger length may be influenced by a "deeper third variable," Hurd noted. Regardless, the study shows that "events in the womb can have subtle effects on children's personality," Hurd added.

This is not the first study to link the ratio between a man's second and fourth fingers to his personality, Bailey noted. Previous reports have found that men with smaller ratios - meaning, their second finger is much smaller than their fourth - tend to do better in sports, and are perceived as more dominant and masculine by women.

However, other research has shown that men with smaller second-to-fourth finger ratios are at higher risk of autism and immune deficiency.

To investigate how finger ratios match up with physical aggression, Bailey and Hurd measured the finger ratios in 298 psychology students, and asked them to complete a questionnaire measuring aggression.

The questionnaire measured four types of aggression, Bailey noted: physical ("if someone hits me, I hit back"), anger ("I flare up quickly"), hostility ("I am often eaten up by jealousy"), and verbal ("I tell my friends when I disagree with them").

The researchers found that shorter second-to-fourth finger ratios predicted proneness to physical aggression, but not other types of aggression, and only in men, not in women.

In general, men had smaller finger ratios than women, the authors report in the journal Biological Psychology.

Bailey cautioned that these findings only link a shorter finger ratio to a tendency toward physical aggression, and do not show that men with shorter ratios are actually more aggressive. "Somebody might never have acted on anything," she said.

Moreover, behavior is influenced by many other factors, Bailey added. Finger ratios are "just one piece of the puzzle," she said.

SOURCE: Biological Psychology, March 2005.


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: aggression; development; finger; fingers; frankzappa; hormones; inutero; junkscience; male; malehormones; maleness; pointstoponder; testosterone
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To: Pharmboy
Every guy out in Freeperland is now looking at their hands.

Yep! And I just discovered something. On my left hand the ring finger is slightly longer than the index finger, but on the right hand it is slightly shorter. Does that indicate I’m well balanced?
But they have been broken so many times that they are a bit crooked and hard to measure.
81 posted on 03/05/2005 7:16:47 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Pharmboy

And all this time I just thought is was an indicator of how long one's slong was.


82 posted on 03/05/2005 7:17:01 AM PST by rbg81
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To: Bigh4u2
So, basically, the article is stating that men with shorter second fingers are pansies!

And subject to immune deficiencies (HIV?).
83 posted on 03/05/2005 7:18:20 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: cyborg

Well, I assume you ALWAYS did that...


84 posted on 03/05/2005 7:21:46 AM PST by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
On the other hand, I've never been able to wear boxers.

Uh, you're not supposed to wear boxers on your hand.
85 posted on 03/05/2005 7:23:17 AM PST by Iwo Jima
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To: texasbluebell

That is one LONG 4th finger...


86 posted on 03/05/2005 7:23:35 AM PST by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: Lurking2Long
"Hey, I've been looking to buy a bridge...do you have one for sale in the Brooklyn area?"

Brooklyn area?

I'll check, but I think it was sold. ;)

87 posted on 03/05/2005 7:24:03 AM PST by G.Mason ("If you are broken It is because you are brittle" ... K.Hepburn, The Lion In Winter)
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To: Pharmboy

Yep, and none of the women are. Objective achieved.


88 posted on 03/05/2005 7:24:31 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Pharmboy

I'm so glad we don't have to see him pointing it at us for 4 years.


89 posted on 03/05/2005 7:24:33 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: headsonpikes

I can't believe no one is calling finger #2 the TRIGGER finger!

Jeez...y'all need a whack upside your head!

ROFLMAO!!!!

You gotta be from Clevland!!!


90 posted on 03/05/2005 7:27:12 AM PST by jerwin63 (Enough!)
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To: Pharmboy
From the Aberdeen Bestiary...

"The first, the thumb, pollex, is so called because it surpasses, pollere, the others in strength and power.
"The second finger, index, is also known as salutaris or demonstratorius, the greeting or indicating finger, because we generally use it in greeting, showing or pointing.
"The third finger is called impudicus, lewd; it is frequently used to express the pursuit of something shameful.
"The fourth is the ring finger, anularis, because it is the on which a ring is worn.
"The fifth finger is called auricularis, because we scrape our ear, auris, with it."

91 posted on 03/05/2005 7:27:34 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: null and void
*gentle cough*

Yep. And, if we believe it is headed our way, that won't stop us.
92 posted on 03/05/2005 7:28:47 AM PST by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: Lazamataz

Looks like a picture of my proctologist.


93 posted on 03/05/2005 7:31:29 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: mikegi

Technically the THUMB is not a finger. So Mr Pointer is the FIRST finger; The Bird is the SECOND finger; The Ringie is the THIRD finger; and the Pinkie is the FOURTH.

If you have a short Bird Finger you are a "submissive".


94 posted on 03/05/2005 7:32:18 AM PST by NetValue (Be a democrat; oppose, lie, subvert, obstruct , and sabotage progress and ideals in America.)
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To: oceanperch
"When I was young us girls us to do the Pinkie sign as a joke to how a man is lacking in size regarding that other important male part."

What?

There is another important part?





Hey Ma? ... Dad? ...

95 posted on 03/05/2005 7:33:13 AM PST by G.Mason ("If you are broken It is because you are brittle" ... K.Hepburn, The Lion In Winter)
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To: DustyMoment

OTOH, if it's headed towards Ottowa, we'll have plenty of time to get permission, and negotiate a price...


96 posted on 03/05/2005 7:33:16 AM PST by null and void (The Pendragon Production of H.G. Wells' War of the Worlds opens March 30th. Be there or be eaten...)
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To: Pharmboy
Congratulations!

Reading your post and seeing Lazamataz's reply, gave me an indication of great entertainment ahead.

After taking care of a few chores, I come back to find it has more than lived up to my original assessment.

Well done! ;)

97 posted on 03/05/2005 7:43:25 AM PST by G.Mason ("If you are broken It is because you are brittle" ... K.Hepburn, The Lion In Winter)
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To: Graymatter

Well, for some reason, the science folk started the numbering at the other end. But, thanks for your post...very interesting.


98 posted on 03/05/2005 7:46:02 AM PST by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: null and void
Actually, they won't let us shoot down missles over their territory, even if they are targeted at their own cities, unless we get their permission first...

Let one of their cities get hit, and they won't be waffling about permission--they'll be too busy begging for help.

99 posted on 03/05/2005 7:47:02 AM PST by exDemMom (Democrats must care deeply about the poor--they want so many of them!)
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To: Piquaboy

Change HMOs...


100 posted on 03/05/2005 7:47:42 AM PST by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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