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To: Ohioan from Florida

I don't care if he lives in a thatched roof mud hut and brreathes fire. One would get an attitude when the state interferes with private medical decisions and contradicts sound medical advise, which is just as diverse as the rest of the public opinion around the case. We eat dead cows, yet there are those who condemn us for killing the cow.
Both sides have an arguement, but I don't see either side as being a winner. So the do gooders save her miserable life....... for what???? Are they going to chip in and pay for her care?? Are they going to bathe her and change her diapers?


20 posted on 03/03/2005 9:58:19 PM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: o_zarkman44

Since you don't care, you should just divorce yourself from what they will do to care for her. If her life is miserable, then she is not PVS or braindead, because those would not comprehend their misery. If she is truly miserable because she is aware of it, that is because of the abuse/neglect inflicted upon her by Michael Schiavo. In the hands only those who love her and will offer her all this world(and God) has to offer her, the present circumstance will move to a much better one. We know you want her dead. Take a hike. Your language alone proves your hateful attitude toward this innocent child of God.


23 posted on 03/03/2005 10:06:54 PM PST by txrangerette
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To: o_zarkman44
So the do gooders save her miserable life....... for what????

Perhaps her life isn't as miserable to her as you obviously think it is. For all you know, she may be a happier person than yourself.

Are they going to chip in and pay for her care?? Are they going to bathe her and change her diapers?

Her parents want to care for her at their expense, however, if it came down to your options, I would be more than happy to pitch in, both with money and time. I know there are plenty of others who feel the same way I do.

26 posted on 03/03/2005 10:10:26 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: o_zarkman44

Are they going to chip in and pay for her care?? Are they going to bathe her and change her diapers? Are You ????

There are plenty of doctors who have offered Terri care FREE and her mom, dada ,brother and sister are willing to change as many diapers as needed !!!!! Why do you think she should die ????


27 posted on 03/03/2005 10:11:23 PM PST by fiesti (Terri deserves life---Terrisfight.org)
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To: o_zarkman44
So the do gooders save her miserable life....... for what????

What you and your friends don't realise is this is about euthanasia not just Terri.

If they win and you or a loved one are in a car accident or fall and suffer a head trauma, you and yours could be next. This is about judging the value of a human life. And it's a slippery slope.

30 posted on 03/03/2005 10:16:08 PM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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To: o_zarkman44
"Are they going to chip in and pay for her care?? Are they going to bathe her and change her diapers?"

You need to read more deeply into this case, the parents have said all along that they are willing to do exactly that. There have been thousands of people sending in donations to help keep Terry alive and pay the parent's legal bills. There's no reason to believe that these people would stop supporting Terry with donations.

38 posted on 03/03/2005 10:24:46 PM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: o_zarkman44

Are they going to chip in and pay for her care?? Are they going to bathe her and change her diapers?

First of all, we "do-gooders" have yet to save Terri from judicial execution, but we can pray for two weeks to go. Secondly, it is the taxpayers now paying her expenses though her "husband" lives in a house presumed worth $400,000. Thirdly, it is the Schindlers who would provide her low-cost health care in their own home. So, if Terri were spared, you would be pleased: the taxpayers would no longer be paying her expenses. As far as "bathing her," that can be done in 10 to 15 minutes a day. The feeding tube probably would require less than 20 minutes a day. But the Schindlers will resume feeding by mouth if given the chance.


108 posted on 03/04/2005 5:26:56 AM PST by Theodore R. (Terri has already outlived Eleanor Centzone.)
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To: o_zarkman44
"sound medical advise"

Anyone brought into the court that disagrees with Felos's witnesses is discounted by Greer or won't even be heard. There is a signed affidavit, at least one, from a different case involving attorneys also working for Felos in which Greer employs the same tactic. No quarter for anyone testifying contrary to witnesses for Felos or his associates.

115 posted on 03/04/2005 5:56:27 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{---><Petition to Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: o_zarkman44

To anyone who thinks money should decide this issue. Please promise to go without food and water for the whole time it takes Terri to die if the tube is removed. Please promise to send a copy of zarkman's post to all nursing homes and rehab centers in your area. Please promise to never, ever go on Social Security, Medicare or recieve any kind of taxpayer subsidized relief. Including any post disaster aid. Please promise to fight against programs such as WIC and immunization programs for the poor. Please promise you will allow someone to decide that you should die a brutal agonizing death cause gee they did a balance sheet and the numbers just ain't right.


122 posted on 03/04/2005 6:32:44 AM PST by lastchance
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To: o_zarkman44
So the do gooders save her miserable life....... for what???? Are they going to chip in and pay for her care?? Are they going to bathe her and change her diapers?

Yes, as a matter of fact. The primary "do-gooders" here are her parents who will do for Terri what Mr. Schiavo has refused to do.

Abortion is a privte medical decision, as is euthanasia for whatever reason. How do you feel about these?

146 posted on 03/04/2005 8:50:55 AM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: o_zarkman44
So the do gooders save her miserable life....... for what???? Are they going to chip in and pay for her care?? Are they going to bathe her and change her diapers?

Yikes! Unlike you, yes there are people who actually care and are willing to defend and care for those who can not care or defend themselves. Without people with morals and hearts to care freedom becomes anarchy with people preying on others. Where we draw the line determines if freedom can exist, the one thing libertarians leave out of the equation. Thank God there are do gooders still left in America!

190 posted on 03/04/2005 12:05:59 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: o_zarkman44

I'm afraid you're missing the boat. Terri is calssified as being in a "persistent vegetative state" only by the hand-picked doctors of her husband. This is the same husband who has consistently denied her any form of therapy, including antibiotics when she had a bacterial infection.

Other people, including other doctors, state she is responsive and somewhat alert. Some have claimed she may improve significantly with therapy, including speach therapy. The jury is out on that because Michael has barred any form of therapy.

Finally, there is significant circumstantial evidence that indicates Michael may have beaten up his wife the night she had the "heart attack", including broken bones inconsistent with a fall down the stairs (as he claims). He should have been stripped of his guardianship for her long ago, IMO.

The financial issues are secondary, frankly. If Judge Greer allows this woman to die, he MAY be contributing to the cover-up of a murder. If we allow dollars and cents to dictate that this woman - who is NOT in a vegetative state according to a number of medical and observational opinions - must die, then we are also complicit in the alleged murder.

Terri's parents have been on record offering to take over her care for years. Michael will not allow that. He has abandoned his "marriage", but will not consent to a divorce. He swore in court he would do everything possible to help Terri, yet she has not received one dime's worth of therapy from the $1.7M award he won on that pledge.

Justice cannot be measured in money.


252 posted on 03/04/2005 6:20:09 PM PST by MortMan (Man who run in front of car get tired.)
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To: o_zarkman44
I don't care if he lives in a thatched roof mud hut and brreathes fire. One would get an attitude when the state interferes with private medical decisions and contradicts sound medical advise, which is just as diverse as the rest of the public opinion around the case. We eat dead cows, yet there are those who condemn us for killing the cow.
Both sides have an arguement, but I don't see either side as being a winner. So the do gooders save her miserable life....... for what???? Are they going to chip in and pay for her care?? Are they going to bathe her and change her diapers?




Too many people fold when confronted and ignore the truth so as to not offend someone!?!?!?!?????
276 posted on 03/04/2005 11:27:36 PM PST by danamco
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To: o_zarkman44
So the do gooders save her miserable life....... for what???? Are they going to chip in and pay for her care?? Are they going to bathe her and change her diapers?

Do you also believe that people who were born mentally handicapped, many as helpless as Terri, people who, unlike Terri, have no hope of improving no matter what kind of therapy they receive--do you believe these people should also be exterminated?

How about people who are not retarded, but cannot move or communicate because of conditions like cerebral palsy?

Because, in case you didn't know, you are already paying for the lifelong care of tens of thousands of people like this. There are many fully staffed hospitals in the U.S. that exist only for the purpose of caring for people like this, and taxpayers are footing the bill for every one of them. This isn't about money. This is about how we, as a society, treat the helpless.

314 posted on 03/05/2005 6:35:41 PM PST by exDemMom (Democrats must care deeply about the poor--they want so many of them!)
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To: o_zarkman44

Her parents have maintained they will be more than happy to care for her if Michael would allow them to. Why does he get to decide, when he's already made a new life with the "other woman" and had two children with her? Why won't he allow Terri's parents to take care of her?


352 posted on 03/11/2005 1:19:02 PM PST by mlc9852
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