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Baghdad Betty
Intellectual Conservative.com ^ | 03 March 2005 | Michael P. Tremoglie

Posted on 03/03/2005 6:51:08 AM PST by Miami Vice

World War II gave us Tokyo Rose, the Japanese radio broadcaster whose job it was to demoralize American troops. Seoul City Sue did the same thing for the North Korean communists during the Korean War. Hanoi Hanna was the Vietnamese communist version.

Today we have Baghdad Betty. However, Baghdad Betty can be distinguished from the aforementioned for one very salient reason. Baghdad Betty does not broadcast from Iraq -- she broadcasts from Florida.

Baghdad Betty aka Randi Rhodes is one of Air America’s premier talk show hosts. Actually, Randi Rhodes is a nome de microphone. According to a recent Ann Coulter column, her real name is a secret.

I first heard Rhodes about a year ago during a trip to Fort Lauderdale. After about twenty minutes of her repeating Bush and Nazi I realized she was incapable of an original thought so I changed the station.

I have not listened to Air America since I wrote about the network when it first began broadcasting. I felt it might be interesting to get their current perspective. So I tuned in recently to listen.

I began with the 10 AM show of Lizz Winsted and Rachel Maddow. I skipped the noontime Al Franken show and returned for Baghdad Betty/Randi Rhodes. What I heard was a rebroadcast of her show of several weeks earlier. Listening to Baghdad Betty’s dialogue with a caller named Dave and her subsequent monologue I learned:

“We (the United States) invaded an unarmed country (Iraq).”

“We (US) bombed the hell out of “unarmed country ( Iraq).”

“They (Iraq) had no air force”

“We (US military) are torturing the people we went to liberate (Iraqis).”

“They (the Iraqi people) waited a year for us to take care of them. We didn’t. Then they found out about us torturing people that is what created the insurgency.”

“Every single solitary military guy,” said there were not sufficient troops in Iraq.

Just imagine: all this disinformation was from just one show. One can only imagine what Baghdad Betty says on a regular basis. Her rant was pure propaganda. One only wonders if she is a dupe of the antiwar crowd or intentionally deceiving people.

Whichever it is none of what she said was true. For example:

If Iraq were an “unarmed country” as she said, then maybe she could explain how Lance Corporal Andrew Julian Aviles was killed when an Iraqi artillery round struck his amphibious assault vehicle on April 7, 2003.

If we did “bomb the hell out of an unarmed country” then she should explain the December 1998 CNN report stating, “Iraqi forces would shoot at warplanes patrolling the no-fly zones.”

If Iraq did not have an air force as Baghdad Betty says, then why did the December 2002 Daily Telegraph say, “An Iraqi warplane shot down an unmanned US surveillance drone yesterday, threatening to escalate the tension in the region as America builds up its forces for a possible war early next year. Why did a 2001 UPI story claim, “Since December 1998… [there are] more than 160 incidents of Iraqi aircraft violating the zones.”

Baghdad Betty claimed the Iraqi people waited for a year for us to do something to help them then, when we did not help them, and seeing the photographs from Abu Ghraib, the insurgency began. If this were true why is it that the November 13, 2004 New York Times reported, “nearly 18 months after the Iraq insurgency began in May 2003.” (italics mine) Why is it that the nonprofit think tank Jamestown Foundation wrote on June 17, 2004, “insurgency began in May 2003 with the outbreak of violence by the Sunni Arab population.”

According to Baghdad Betty, we are torturing the people we were liberating.

Does she think SSGT Joseph Darby was torturing prisoners? He was the person who told officials about the illegal conduct by guards at Abu Ghraib. What about all the other troops who investigated and prosecuted these abuses? Are they all guilty of torturing innocent Iraqis or Iraqi prisoners.

She also said that “every single solitary military person, “said more troops were needed. Yet, General Tommy Franks was quoted as saying July 7, 2003, “more troops not needed for Iraq.”

Baghdad Betty said we do not have any trouble murdering people in this country, while drawing the parallel to capital punishment here and the snuff films broadcast by the terrorists.

There is a report that she once advocated the assassination of President Bush during her broadcast.

Her biography says she was in the Air Force. If this is to be believed her insulting of the military is outrageous. Her biography also says she is a “smoky-voiced Brooklyn native” (This explains why I thought she was merely doing a bad imitation of Barbra Streisand).

She is completely without credibility. Randi “Baghdad Betty” Rhodes is to talk radio what “Tikrit” Teddy Rall, who said Pat Tillman was an idiot, is to newspaper cartoons.

They are fools.

A former police officer, Michael Tremoglie's work has appeared in the Philadelphia Inquirer, Philadelphia Daily News, Human Events, FrontPage Magazine, and the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: airamerica; baghdadbetty; enemywithin; liberals; liberaltalkradio; randirhodes
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1 posted on 03/03/2005 6:51:08 AM PST by Miami Vice
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To: Miami Vice

Randi Rhodes is worshipped as a god at DU.


2 posted on 03/03/2005 6:55:21 AM PST by MisterRepublican (I DEMAND THAT FOX NEWS REHIRE JENNIFER ECCLESTON!)
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To: MisterRepublican

> Randi Rhodes is worshipped as a god at DU.

Which means they aren't all atheists after all :-)


3 posted on 03/03/2005 7:01:05 AM PST by Boundless
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To: MisterRepublican

What's DU?


4 posted on 03/03/2005 7:04:34 AM PST by Miami Vice
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To: Boundless

Liberalism as it is depicted on Air America is a mental illness. Put these people on Prozac, Zoloft etc. and they'll start behaving and acting normally in two weeks or less.


5 posted on 03/03/2005 7:04:48 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: Miami Vice

from Snopes.com - Urban Legends

Baghdad Betty



Claim: During the Gulf War, an Iraqi government propaganda broadcaster nicknamed "Baghdad Betty" warned American soldiers that "Bart Simpson is making love to your wife."
Status: False.

Examples:


[The San Diego Union-Tribune, 1990]
Baghdad Betty, a 1990's version of Tokyo Rose, is a product of the Iraqi propaganda machine and her radio broadcasts are supposed to demoralize the U.S. forces in the Saudi desert. In a recent broadcast, she reportedly said: "Why are you Americans here? Don't you know you will die in the desert? While you are here your wives and girlfriends are dating American movie stars . . . like Tom Selleck, Paul Newman and Bart Simpson."






[The Guardian, 1991]

BAGHDAD BETTY, Iraq's English-language radio service, has taken a credibility nosedive. Over the weekend Betty indulged in some mischievous bitchery by telling US soldiers that their wives back home were committing adultery by sleeping with movie stars. Big-screen heart-throbs like Tom Cruise, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Bart Simpson. The first two might have presented some cause for anxiety, but who initiated the deviant practice of molesting under-age, primary coloured cartoon characters?




Origins: When
nations prepare to war on each other, they employ time-honored techniques for motivating their soldiers to fight and rallying the civilian population to support them. These techniques are usually employed in an attempt to demonstrate the home side's moral, intellectual, and military superiority over their enemies. Propaganda always informs us that our side is in the right, we're smarter than our enemies, and our men and equipment can vanquish anyone else's in a matter of weeks.

After Iraq invaded and annexed Kuwait in August of 1990, hundreds of thousands of U.S. troops were deployed in the Middle East to protect Saudi Arabia (a build-up referred to as Operation Desert Shield), and those troops were used as part of a joint military action (commonly known as Operation Desert Storm) launched to drive the Iraqi army out of Kuwait in January 1991. The months between operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm allowed plenty of time for the usual propaganda machine to kick into gear. Americans needed little reassurance that their military was superior to Iraq's, but the daily news was nonetheless full of programs touting the wonders of technologically advanced weapons such as "cruise missiles" and "smart bombs." Moral justification was provided by an apocryphal atrocity tale about Iraqi soldiers storming Kuwaiti hospitals and dumping babies out of incubators. And proof of how really dumb those Iraqi savages were was provided by an anecdote widely reported by the media beginning in December 1990:


[The New York Times, 1991]
"Ridiculous," President Bush called the program when he was in Saudi Arabia in November. He was referring to "Voice of Peace," Iraq's version of the Axis Sally or Tokyo Rose propaganda broadcasts during World War II, and he couldn't know how right he was.

The female announcer — nicknamed Baghdad Betty by U.S. servicemen — tries to shake morale. One major reports hearing her declaim, "G.I., you should be home." Why? Because "while you're away, movie stars are taking your women. Robert Redford is dating your girlfriend. Tom Selleck is kissing your lady." And then comes the clincher. "Bart Simpson is making love to your wife."

Quite a threat. And quite a feat for television's popular and animated young underachiever. Baghdad Betty is shaking the G.I.'s all right — with laughter.

What a propaganda bonanza! Those foolish Iraqis are trying to scare away our fighting men by threatening them with the news that their wives and girlfriends were sleeping with a nine-year-old cartoon character! We'll have no problem kicking a bunch of rubes that out of touch with the world halfway across the desert! You couldn't invent a story that good!

Baghdad Betty's infamous cartoon threat may not have been created for propaganda purposes, but it was as apocryphal as the story about Iraqis overturning hospital incubators. It was, in fact, a joke — one told by Tonight Show host Johnny Carson during his opening monologue on 22 August 1990:


[Toronto Star, 1991]
[On] Feb. 1 host Johnny Carson opened the show with what he called a retraction. He recalled that some time previously his writers had manufactured a gag about an Iraqi announcer called "Baghdad Betty" telling soldiers their womenfolk were being romanced at home by "Tom Selleck, Tom Cruise and Homer Simpson."

The story spread, Carson said, and soon it was being retold, even on wire services, as fact, with one change — Homer Simpson, the father in The Simpsons animated cartoon series, was replaced by Bart Simpson, his 9-year-old son.

Said Carson: "It was a joke. We made it up."

Another legend bites the dust.

This legend resurfaced in 2001 as talk turned to psychological warfare that might be waged in Afghanistan:


[New Scientist, 2001]
PsyOps have been extremely successful in the past. During the Gulf War, warnings about B-52 bomber attacks were issued to Iraqi troops on the ground. Leaflets promising humane treatment if they surrendered were then dropped. Most of the soldiers who later surrendered were carrying the leaflets, army officials said at the time.

But a thorough understanding of the culture of the people targeted by PsyOps is crucial, says Hofmann.

"One of the keys is to have your message accurate in a cultural context. Enemy armies often attempt PsyOps, but often without success," he says. "In Iraq, for example, Saddam Hussein tried to demoralise US troops by broadcasting messages that while they were away fighting, their sweethearts were being seduced by movie stars such as Bart Simpson."

War is hell. And sometimes the joke's on us.

Sightings: The "Baghdad Betty" anecdote is reported (as true) in Dorothy E. Denning's 1998 book Information Warfare and Security.

Additional information:

Gulf War Stories the Media Loved (FAIR)

Last updated: 22 October 2001




The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/radio/baghdad.htm




Sources:
Epstein, Edward. "World Insider."
The San Francisco Chronicle. 17 December 1990 (p. A13).

McEnroe, Colin. "Your Wife, GI, Is with the Barney Rubble."
The San Francisco Chronicle. 23 December 1990.

Rosenstiel, Thomas B. "Iraqis Trading Shots in Image War."
Los Angeles Times. 4 February 1991 (p. A1).

Rumbold, Judy. "Diary."
The Guardian. 15 January 1991.

Young, Emma. "Psychological Warfare Waged in Afghanistan."
New Scientist. 10 October 2001.

The New York Times. "Baghdad Betty, Animated."
14 January 1991 (p. A16).

Newsweek. "The Propaganda War."
25 February 1991 (p. 38).

The San Diego Union-Tribune. "Around the World."
4 December 1990 (p. A2).

The Toronto Star. "Hefners Expect Playmate for Son."
10 February 1991 (p. D2).

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6 posted on 03/03/2005 7:05:27 AM PST by Grendel9
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To: Miami Vice
I can only imagine what Tony Iomi must have said...
7 posted on 03/03/2005 7:08:09 AM PST by martin gibson
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To: Miami Vice

Randi Rhodes will say anything to get attention. Listening to her is like betting on professional wrestling matches or Roller Derby.


8 posted on 03/03/2005 7:08:47 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Grendel9

So what is your point? Are you trying to say that it is impossible for two different people to independently think of the name Betty as an alliteration for the name Baghdad?

I suppose if he would have used the name Baghdad Becky or Baghdad Bertha there might have been someone who used those names as well.

Can't you think of something substantive to add.


9 posted on 03/03/2005 7:12:56 AM PST by Miami Vice
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To: Miami Vice

Well, whatever her name is, she was prominently covered in an article for "The Washington Post Magazine" a number of months ago. The article explained how Ms. Rhodes(or whatever her name is) went through coniptions about moving from south FL(where allegedly she beat Rush L. in the same day-part) and her show there, to Manhattan and Air America.

I have heard this woman once since she went on Air America and am completely convinced that she is at least a nihilist with regard to her devotion to America. At best, Ms. Rhodes(or whatever her name is) is a socialist.


10 posted on 03/03/2005 7:15:21 AM PST by RexBeach (Keep CHRIST In Christmas - Or I'll Hit You With A Cream Pie!)
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To: Miami Vice
What's DU?

Democratic Underground. A liberal forum.

11 posted on 03/03/2005 7:16:47 AM PST by just me
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To: Miami Vice

I try to listen every once and a while to see what they are talking about. It is such anti-American trash that I never last more than 5 minutes. “Baghdad Betty” is just plain evil…


12 posted on 03/03/2005 7:16:54 AM PST by flightpundit (Don't pursue happiness; pursue excellence)
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To: Miami Vice
What's DU?

The dark side. Don't go there. Stay in the light.

13 posted on 03/03/2005 7:18:01 AM PST by Allegra ("They Just Love to Walk in the Middle of the Road!")
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To: Miami Vice

I once heard her say that Republicans were opposed to gay adoption because they feared that children would grow up more "compassionate" than they would otherwise. By that logic, we should confiscate children from all heterosexual liberal couples and give them to gay couples as, in their opinion, that form of child-rearing is more optimal than what they do.

Oh, they didn't mean themselves? Pardon me, I forgot they were all hypocrites.

Regards, Ivan


14 posted on 03/03/2005 7:20:10 AM PST by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: Miami Vice
I suppose if he would have used the name Baghdad Becky or Baghdad Bertha

I make a co-motion to call her Baghdad Barfie. Every time I happen to stumble on her and Err Amerika idiotic nonsense it makes me barf.

I would gladly accept Oskar for coming up with that name, if nobody beat me to it. Any reward money can be sent to FR fund drive in my name.

15 posted on 03/03/2005 7:21:49 AM PST by Leo Carpathian (FReeeePeee!)
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To: RexBeach

What IS it with people who hide behind fake identities? Sheesh!;)))


16 posted on 03/03/2005 7:27:12 AM PST by Frank_2001
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To: RexBeach

What IS it with people who hide behind fake identities? Sheesh!;)))


17 posted on 03/03/2005 7:28:15 AM PST by Frank_2001
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To: AppyPappy

MEAN GENE


18 posted on 03/03/2005 7:28:56 AM PST by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: Miami Vice

I thought her real name is Raghead Randi.


19 posted on 03/03/2005 8:28:48 AM PST by FreedomFarmer (Socialism is not an ideology, it is a disease. Eliminate the vectors.)
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To: Frank_2001

They don't have the courage of their convictions and thus are frauds.


20 posted on 03/03/2005 8:35:06 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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