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1 posted on 03/02/2005 3:13:38 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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No...


2 posted on 03/02/2005 3:14:17 AM PST by dakine
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most are definately NOT overpaid. But sometimes, one does wonder why in 1 or 2 cases failure is rewarded. I've heard of payment deals with guaranteed bonuses (how can a bonus be guaranteed???). The role of a CEO should be neither underestimated nor overstated. You can't always blame a bad year on the economy or other external factors whilst you always take the credit for a good year.


4 posted on 03/02/2005 3:17:55 AM PST by William of Orange (Liberalism: killing babies good, killing criminals bad...)
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Some are and some are not!

Are dish washers over paid?

Some are and some are not!

Blanket statements are wrong!


7 posted on 03/02/2005 3:22:32 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rush agrees with me 98.5% of the time!)
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Williams presents two or three examples and then makes the blanket statement that CEOs are not overpaid. That is just as stupid as someone taking two or three examples and saying that they are.


13 posted on 03/02/2005 3:37:28 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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At any given moment the CEO, you, and the guy who pours soup into his shoe on my subway platform is worth as much or a little as someone is willing to pay.


14 posted on 03/02/2005 3:38:22 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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Yes they are,


CEO overcompensation is not a regulation problem, but an education problem. Once people wise up and stop buying the confederate money they print; the overcompensation issue will solve itself.


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15 posted on 03/02/2005 3:40:00 AM PST by Fish Hunter
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Considering they get bonuses even when they preform poorly, probably.


19 posted on 03/02/2005 4:00:05 AM PST by Duke Nukum (King had to write, to sing the song of Gan. And I had to read. How else could Roland find the Tower?)
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This is the private sector. Who was the man that had to resign from Fannie Mae because of an "accounting error" that misplaced billions and recieves a huge retirement? Raines? What is his name!?


29 posted on 03/02/2005 4:30:26 AM PST by HankReardon
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Executives are worth every penny they negotiate. Like actors or athletes, there is no direct financial penalty when a movie tanks or the team fails to make it to the finals. However, it sometimes doesn't make sense when only two or three levels separates a person from the top and that equates to many millions of dollars. The wage differential between the people providing the service to the customers and the senior management is staggering.

Oh well, gotta go punch the clock.

31 posted on 03/02/2005 4:35:05 AM PST by kdot
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The question shouldn't be, "Are CEOs Overpaid?" but 'Are There Qualified and Available Candidates for CEO Positions That Would Take Less in Pay?'

As long as the answer is "Yes," then CEOs are overpaid.

From what I have seen, "Qualified" too often means "A buddy of the guys on the board," which is obviously a limited pool. After having seen several great companies completely wrecked by glaring incompetents, after seeing many cases in which there was no correlation between compensation and performance, to me the answer is obvious: Many if not most CEOs are hugely overpaid.

The David Packards of the world deserve every penny they get, but there are not many of those.

32 posted on 03/02/2005 4:50:03 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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Yes...as are athletes, movie stars, liberal professors...on and on and on.....


33 posted on 03/02/2005 4:50:06 AM PST by smiley
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Not unless the shareholders say the CEO is paid too much.

There's an old saying about all airline pilots make too much money except for the ones who are piloting the plane I'm riding on.


35 posted on 03/02/2005 4:54:11 AM PST by leadpenny
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......if you aren't a stockholder, it's not your question to ask. If you are, tell the board what you think the CEO is worth.

Any other complaints are just paycheck envy.


36 posted on 03/02/2005 5:09:06 AM PST by RFEngineer
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YES! Without a doubt
37 posted on 03/02/2005 5:10:57 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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If you were the owner of GE, and a CEO could turn your $14 billion corporation into a $500 billion one, how much would you be willing to pay that man in salary and bonuses?

The underlying problem is that we have all seen too much evidence that a megacorp CEO gets pretty much the same reward whether he turns a $14 billion corporation into a $500 billion one or turns a $500 billion corporation into a $14 billion one. Carly Fiorina's golden parachute (after she had to be kicked out before ruining what was left of HP) is but the latest of many examples.

Boards need to start exercising some disclipline rather than old-boy crony "capitalism", both for the good of their own companies and to restore public faith in the system generally.

38 posted on 03/02/2005 5:16:07 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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There is a problem here, but it is not overpayment of CEO's per se. The problem is that CEO's and other managerial types in many cases no longer take their responsibility to shareholders seriously.

Jay Gould was vilified for saying 'The public be damned I work for my stockholders," but alas too many management types are working for themselves rather than their stockholders.

The fault really lies with the boards of directors which negotiate sweetheart deals with CEO's, CFO's and the like in which large pay packages are not tied to performance, and worse still, negotiate 'golden parchute' packages in which an utterly failed top manager is guaranteed of being bought out for huge sums after ruining the interests of the shareholders.


39 posted on 03/02/2005 6:06:22 AM PST by The_Reader_David
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yes


40 posted on 03/02/2005 6:11:50 AM PST by greatsquire (yes)
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What people get paid is none of our business. That said, yes. Most haven't a clue how to run a company. They are public figure heads, nothing more. Most do more damage to their respective companies than they help. Most companies succeed despite their CEOs.


41 posted on 03/02/2005 6:18:16 AM PST by shellshocked
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It all depends on how much you value money.


42 posted on 03/02/2005 6:36:35 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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You are supposed to feel sorry for CEO's because they fight for YOUR rights.


45 posted on 03/02/2005 6:43:50 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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