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Black conservatives gather momentum
The St. Petersburg Times ^ | Feb. 28, 2005 | Wes Allison

Posted on 03/01/2005 5:54:11 PM PST by abigail2

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To: abigail2
. President Bush has helped legitimize black conservatives

What were they before, Illegitimate?

This line gives me the impression that the author really thinks if you're black you should be a Democrat.

41 posted on 03/02/2005 5:59:31 AM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: CaptRon; mhking
I think a good title for a black conservative magazine/website might be The Statement
42 posted on 03/02/2005 6:13:46 AM PST by GeronL (Condi will not be mistaken for a cleaning lady)
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To: CaptRon; Spann_Tillman; MEG33; Wingy; Loyal Buckeye; youngtory; sauropod; Susannah; leadpenny; ...

I don't see that. I guess he means that Bush doesn't just talk, he is actually placing them in key positions.


43 posted on 03/02/2005 6:51:35 AM PST by abigail2 ('The difficulty of the task is no excuse for avoiding it.' George Bush Inaugural Speech '05)
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To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
Black conservative ping

If you want on (or off) of my black conservative ping list, please let me know via FREEPmail. (And no, you don't have to be black to be on the list!)

Extra warning: this is a high-volume ping list.

44 posted on 03/02/2005 7:52:22 AM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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To: abigail2
"Peterson is in the trenches, speaking anywhere they will have him. I advise anyone who wants to help, support BOND and Jesse. He is like a light everywhere he goes...he affects people just by his presence."

You know another black conservative that I cannot get enough of?! Thomas Sowell...whatta brilliant mind that dude has...MUD

45 posted on 03/02/2005 8:10:09 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (Jeff Schapiro. He's never met a fact he couldn't distort...)
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To: Clemenza

You're right. I see it first hand.


46 posted on 03/02/2005 8:13:55 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: KevinDavis

this is very positive...and exciting.

I wonder, if the trait of young black population becoming disillusioned with the Democratic party has something to do with where they are located regionally, i.e. inner city north, inner city south, private school south, etc.


47 posted on 03/02/2005 8:14:01 AM PST by peacebaby (Moser, how'd you like the cover of the MA05?)
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To: Temple Owl

ping


48 posted on 03/02/2005 8:16:01 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: peacebaby; All
I think many factors in why this is happening:
1. GW Bush.. He place minorities in higher places than any admin...
2. The Internet.. No longer can old media hide the news no more.
3. Democrats: The Democrats took them for granted and now with Howard Dean, the rats are showing their true colors. For example the quote made by Howard Dean or having a former head of KKK in the Senate.
4. A rising middle class.. Simple they want lower taxes..

Plus what you said.. I'm sure there are more..
49 posted on 03/02/2005 9:09:19 AM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: KevinDavis

Is there a rising middle class of black Americans who are educated and independent enough to stand apart from the black status quo and go conservative - or at least question the Dems' motives?


50 posted on 03/02/2005 9:11:38 AM PST by peacebaby (Moser, how'd you like the cover of the MA05?)
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I think there is.. Also a lot of the African-American does not support Gay Marriage. The rats do.


51 posted on 03/02/2005 9:13:08 AM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: KevinDavis

Why do most African Americans oppose gay marriage? What's the thinking there.

What percentage of white Americans oppose gay marriage?

What percentage of black Americans oppose gay marriage?


52 posted on 03/02/2005 9:16:08 AM PST by peacebaby (Moser, how'd you like the cover of the MA05?)
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To: peacebaby; All

That part I don't know... I heard it and I don't remember..


53 posted on 03/02/2005 9:18:59 AM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: peacebaby

Herein lies the rub: a disproportionate number of upwardly mobile blacks are single and female.


54 posted on 03/02/2005 9:32:52 AM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: Clemenza

"Herein lies the rub: a disproportionate number of upwardly mobile blacks are single and female."

females are smart.


55 posted on 03/02/2005 9:37:26 AM PST by peacebaby (Moser, how'd you like the cover of the MA05?)
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To: peacebaby
In 2000-2001 in my lower middle class Chicago suburb I actively worked for the vote from everyone, the 20% in the suburb who were Black as well as the larger group of Hispanics, and Asians and whites and union and everyone.

I estimate 30-35% of Blacks voted for Bush, and for my faction of Republicans in local elections in 2001. But there seemed to be a clear difference among the Blacks. Blacks who received a check from the government.... whether welfare or school teacher or non-profit recipient of great society type money ... voted Dem.

Blacks employed in the private sector were more open to independence and picking and choosing some Republicans. And of those in the private sector, the more educated they were, the more likely to be independent. Thus IT workers at Allstate, Sears, Motorola were more likely to vote for Bush than hamburger flippers. The hamburger flippers who did vote for Bush were strongly influenced by the Black Conservative church pastor and his wife in my suburb.

Coming from abolitionist roots, I see slavery as imposed by the government. I see the abolitionists who forced Lincoln's hand and volunteered for the militia as the ones who freed the slaves. But many Blacks see private property slaver owners and private enterprise slave traders as the ones who imposed slavery. They see the "government" as what freed the slaves.

Thus I see government as the problem, private action as the solution. But many Blacks see private action as the problem, government action as the solution. That is a basic sub-cultural difference that must be recognized and dealt with.

56 posted on 03/02/2005 11:42:24 AM PST by NormalGuy
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" But many Blacks see private property slaver owners and private enterprise slave traders as the ones who imposed slavery."

and blacks don't want to admit that their fellow black man owned slaves, also. Some owned their wives and children.


57 posted on 03/02/2005 11:56:12 AM PST by peacebaby (Moser, how'd you like the cover of the MA05?)
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