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Summers spoke the truth
The Boston Globe ^ | 2/28/2005 | Cathy Young

Posted on 02/28/2005 6:53:50 PM PST by Utah Girl

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1 posted on 02/28/2005 6:53:50 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl

He should be fired -- for apologizing.


2 posted on 02/28/2005 6:56:23 PM PST by Jack Wilson
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To: Utah Girl

"University of Vanderbilt?"

Has Vanderbilt seceded from Nashville?


3 posted on 02/28/2005 6:59:04 PM PST by Redbob
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To: Utah Girl

The hilarious part of this whole affair is that the feminists involved acted so... well:
hysterical!

In the original, psychological sense of that word.


4 posted on 02/28/2005 7:01:19 PM PST by Redbob
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To: Utah Girl

How many men pursue a degree in 'Child Development' and 'Home Economics'?

How many women pursue a degree in 'Computer Science', 'Electrical Engineering', 'Mechanical Engineering', 'Physics' and 'Math'?

Seems he was merely stating a very observable fact. No discrimination here, in fact when women DO get the harder degrees (and yes; I will state flat out that a degree in any form of engineering is tougher than Home Ec, or Child Development), women not only get offered jobs over more qualified men, they get offered more.


5 posted on 02/28/2005 7:01:29 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Utah Girl

A whole career down the tubes , a lifetime of work in the toilet because of one remark that wasnt Politically Correct, How many time have we seen this?

Hillary with her Jewish Basket remark and Jessie Jackass with his Hymietown remark are the onyl two who have escaped unscathed.


6 posted on 02/28/2005 7:07:49 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Utah Girl

A related thread: "Harvard Science Women Overcome with Fellowship, Ice Cream - Women In Science Discuss Changes
Students make recommendations to Summers' "

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1352952/posts


7 posted on 02/28/2005 7:07:56 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (How do you spell dynasty? P-A-T-R-I-O-T-S!)
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To: Utah Girl

This sums it up real well LOL.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1352952/posts


8 posted on 02/28/2005 7:08:26 PM PST by Bostton1
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To: Utah Girl
I heard that Nancy Hopkins swooned when she read this article by Cathy Young.

Fortunately Rhett Butler was nearby and revived her with a manly kiss and a growled "I don't give a damn".

9 posted on 02/28/2005 7:08:34 PM PST by Fido969
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To: Hodar

I majored in Pre-med (I wanted to be a pharmacist.) The first time I applied, I didn't get into Pharmacy School at the University of Utah. I had an opportunity to work for a computer software company and took it, and I've been in computers ever since. Without a degree in Computer Science.


10 posted on 02/28/2005 7:15:17 PM PST by Utah Girl
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"the issue isn't average mathematical ability, which is quite similar for men and women; it's that many more males are clustered at the high and low ends of the scale, among the geniuses and the learning-disabled, while women are more likely to be found near the middle."

martin gross 10 years ago made that point in his book on medical malpractice.

gross claimed that the feminists' insistence on equal numbers of doctors of both sexes had lowered the composite i.q. for medical doctors because it eliminated some of the brightest men.


11 posted on 02/28/2005 7:18:01 PM PST by ken21 ( warning: a blood bath when rehnquist, et al retire. >hang w dubya.< dems want 2 divide us.)
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Summers warned that an aggressive push to hire and promote more women -- i.e. preferential treatment -- may cast a shadow on women's merits

DUH! This is exactly what Affirmative Action has done to bright and hard working blacks.

I think Summers is right on the money. I spent 8 years in college taking Math and Science but chucked it all for my kids. Since then I've been a volunteer Math teacher in an elementary school for the past 4 years. Most girls just don't like it. To think our brains may be wired a bit different is hardly a sin.

The difference between men and women is not as black and white as it use to be but there still is a difference. I say Viva La.

12 posted on 02/28/2005 7:20:26 PM PST by lizma
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I think you will admit that YOU were LUCKY.

I know engineers who are working as engineers; yet do not have a 4 year degree. These people tend to be very smart, very self-disciplined, quick studies, and also lucky. They are lucky in that they got in the door to interview, without the degree. The degree will not garantee you a job; but it will open the door for the interview, where you can begin to prove your capabilities.

I'm glad you got in.


13 posted on 02/28/2005 7:20:53 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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I think that a college degree taught me to be more disciplined in my thinking and be more logical. And the degree is what employers are looking for. Unfortunately a degree does not guarantee a good employee. Right now I am working for a health information systems company, and I hadn't worked in the medical field for 13 years. But because I put it on my resume, they were interested. And it is surprising how fast the medical knowledge came back. Anyway...


14 posted on 02/28/2005 7:26:32 PM PST by Utah Girl
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"I think that a college degree taught me to be more disciplined in my thinking and be more logical."

That is why you post articles from that bogus resource known as the Boston Globe???

Please, if it were worth FR commentary.......................

15 posted on 02/28/2005 7:30:09 PM PST by Radix (The next time that I find a good Tag Line, I'll be sure to post it here.)
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LOL. I thought the article was worth posting.


16 posted on 02/28/2005 7:34:22 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: lizma
"I spent 8 years in college taking Math and Science but chucked it all for my kids. Since then I've been a volunteer Math teacher in an elementary school for the past 4 years. Most girls just don't like it. To think our brains may be wired a bit different is hardly a sin."

Likewise. My degrees are in microbiology and an MBA, but now I spend my time raising kids and volunteering with science enrichment at our elementary school. My husband and I have organized a robotics program for our elementary school, and we typically have a preponderance of boys in the class. One of our well-meaning teachers started making noise about "reserving" half the slots for girls, which we've managed to avoid doing. Some girls are interested, and do very well with it, but the interest levels among boys are definitely higher. There are some inherent differences between boys and girls, which raising boys has amply illustrated for me!

17 posted on 02/28/2005 7:35:26 PM PST by Think free or die
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Summers spoke the truth

Sorry, but in The New World Order, that is not a defense.

18 posted on 02/28/2005 7:42:08 PM PST by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got Seven?)
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You did good Me Lady.


19 posted on 02/28/2005 7:43:02 PM PST by torchthemummy ("Terrorism has less to do with economic poverty than with political poverty." - Jane Novak)
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The problem, of course, is that women faculty are demanding that science departments should be non-discriminatory, which can only be proved by hiring 50% women. In many fields that is simply impossible, without hiring third-raters. There just aren't that many top women scientists available.

I don't know why they seem to think that Madame Curie is a good argument for hiring more woman scientists. Isn't there something a bit funny about having to go back a full hundred years to find a famous woman physicist? She isolated Radium in 1902. Have there been no famous women physicists since then? If not, how come? Most college humanities departments now have more women than men.


20 posted on 02/28/2005 7:43:08 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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