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Minds are changing - (smart, optimistic, leaves "shrill shrieker" anti-Bush libs in the dust)
JEWISH WORLD REVIEW.COM ^ | FEBRUARY 28, 2005 | MICHAEL BARONE

Posted on 02/28/2005 6:24:55 PM PST by CHARLITE

In the most recent Foreign Affairs , Yale's John Lewis Gaddis credited George W. Bush with "the most sweeping redesign of U.S. grand strategy since the presidency of Franklin D. Roosevelt," criticized Bush's implementation of that strategy in measured tones, and called for a "renewed strategic bipartisanship."

One Democrat so inclined is the party's most likely 2008 nominee, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. She voted for the Iraq war and has not wavered in her support— she avoided voting for the $87 billion before voting against it. She has kept clear of the Michael Moore left and its shrill denunciations of Bush and has kept her criticisms well within the bounds of normal partisan discourse. "Where we stand right now, there can be no doubt that it is not in America's interests for the Iraqi government, the experiment in freedom and democracy, to fail," she said on Meet the Press February 20. "So I hope that Americans understand that and that we will have as united a front as is possible in our country at this time to keep our troops safe, make sure they have everything they need, and try to support this new Iraqi government." Moveon.org may want to keep shrieking about weapons of mass destruction, but Senator Clinton is moving on.

George W. Bush gambled that actions can change minds. So far, he's winning.

(Excerpt) Read more at jewishworldreview.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barone; democrats; elections; hillaryclinton; iraq; journalists; liberals; results; strategy; uswinning; war
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1 posted on 02/28/2005 6:24:56 PM PST by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE
the party's most likely 2008 nominee, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

She might become the Dimwit nominee but we will never elect a lesbian sociopath as president.

2 posted on 02/28/2005 6:34:26 PM PST by peyton randolph (CAIR supports TROP terrorists)
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To: peyton randolph

Not unless the Republicans fail to put up a decent candidate. If the RNC goes with some pro-abort RINO, all bets are off.


3 posted on 02/28/2005 6:41:12 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
Not unless the Republicans fail to put up a decent candidate. If the RNC goes with some pro-abort RINO, all bets are off.

Very true, Cicero. What possible Republican presidential candidates do you see running in 2008?

Usually it's the VP, but Cheney's previous health problems won't allow that. So who are we looking at? Condi?

4 posted on 02/28/2005 6:46:09 PM PST by xJones
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To: CHARLITE

OK everyone, be sure to save her quote:

"Where we stand right now, there can be no doubt that it is not in America's interests for the Iraqi government, the experiment in freedom and democracy, to fail"

for the primary season when she starts showing her anti-war roots.


5 posted on 02/28/2005 6:51:39 PM PST by TheRobb7 ("Whatever enables us to go to war, secures our peace." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: xJones

That's just it. There are some good conservative candidates, but without national name recognition. Maybe there is time for some of them to start coming forward.

Condi is politically inexperienced, although I'm more impressed with her every day. She has been handling herself very well in political hotseats.

She is said to be personally pro-abort. I think that means she would lose millions of Evangelical and traditional Catholic voters (including Hispanic voters) who came out for Bush last fall, UNLESS she makes a clear and persuasive statement pledging her support of the pro-life position.

I do think Condi is someone who can be trusted, so if she came out with a pro-life statement I would be inclined to believe her. She does not strike me as someone who would lie to the voters and then betray them.


6 posted on 02/28/2005 6:54:38 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
"If the RNC goes with some pro-abort RINO, all bets are off. "

It's not the RNC's choice, it's the primary voters' choice. When you step into that voting booth you are free to vote for anyone on the ballot.

But there will be a lot of "vanity" candidates who aren't even doing the minimum required to be a serious candidate, such as hiring professional staff.

And of course they will blame their failure to attract voters on some nameless "they" who "anoint" the nominee.(or course they knew that before they even started running) And there will be some fools who even believe them.

7 posted on 02/28/2005 6:55:49 PM PST by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: peyton randolph
I think we underestimate Hillary at our own peril.

Before our very eyes, see is drifting right; indeed, I would not be surprised to see her take positions to the right of Bush on certain issues - particularly immigration.

While all this may seem obviously contrived and opportunistic now, in it's nascent stages, four years of carefully planned re-positioning, along with MSM support, could make her a formidible opponent.

8 posted on 02/28/2005 7:04:18 PM PST by StatenIsland
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To: CHARLITE

She is getting good advice, and she is reading the right political philosophers.


9 posted on 02/28/2005 7:05:22 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: Cicero
What if . . .

Hillary is the Republican nominee?

10 posted on 02/28/2005 7:06:38 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: Cicero

Sen. George Allen (R-VA) comes to mind, but I don't think he has the "fire" to get into someones face come primary time...


11 posted on 02/28/2005 7:10:42 PM PST by dirtbiker (Solution for Terrorism: Nuke 'em 'till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark!)
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"Sen. George Allen (R-VA) comes to mind..."

I thought of him, too. Recently I posed the same question regarding a strong candidate for '08 on another thread. I was quickly linked to Mike Pence of Indiana. Everything I read on him so far seems good. Do you know anything about him?


12 posted on 02/28/2005 7:35:43 PM PST by Just A Nobody (Get the US out of the UN & the UN out of the US - NOW)
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To: CHARLITE

"has kept her criticisms well within the bounds of normal partisan discourse"

Well .. I don't necessarily agree with this statement. I know Rush has played an audio tape of hers, "I'm sick and tired ...", a rant and a half.


13 posted on 02/28/2005 7:35:45 PM PST by CyberAnt (Pres. Bush: "Self-government relies, in the end, on the governing of the self.")
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To: peyton randolph

Don't be so sure.

There are millions of idiotic,irrational women (some who have never voted), who might tidal wave to the polls on election day for the sole reason that she is a woman.

It worries me.


14 posted on 02/28/2005 7:37:11 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (Open borders=National suicide)
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To: RightWhale

You gotta be drinking or smoking something to even speak such words.


15 posted on 02/28/2005 7:43:03 PM PST by CyberAnt (Pres. Bush: "Self-government relies, in the end, on the governing of the self.")
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To: peyton randolph
I don't think she's a lesbian. Perhaps a sociopathic, black widow, political whore (see emasculated Slick Willie or dead Vince Foster) that has no present sex life, only feminist gender affiliation.
16 posted on 02/28/2005 7:49:19 PM PST by scars
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To: xJones
Republican candidates for 2008:

McCain

Guiliani

Frist

Mitt Romney

George Allen

Condi Rice (I hope)

Donald Rumsfeld (I also hope!)

I also like Jeb Bush but I just don't think the electorate would go for another member of the family right away.

17 posted on 02/28/2005 7:52:09 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: scars
I don't think she's a lesbian.

Goes both ways. Bill and Hill supposedly met while dating the same gal in college. Antics continued in Arkansas governor's mansion according to state troopers assigned to guard them.

18 posted on 02/28/2005 7:53:45 PM PST by peyton randolph (CAIR supports TROP terrorists)
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To: peyton randolph
Never heard that. She does look like a lesbian.(Please don't jump on me, ladies, it's just the opinion of someone who knows not to hit on women that look like her.)

BTW, it's Rudy or Condi in my book. The rub against Condi Rice is that she's never held high elected office before. If the Dems can spin a traitor to within a hair's breadth of the White-house, what could we do with an intelligent, accomplished, fiery, attractive, loyal conservative. They don't own the media anymore and probably never will again.
19 posted on 02/28/2005 8:02:38 PM PST by scars
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To: RightWhale

Hitlary switching parties would be just TOO calculating.

She can not offend the democrat base because they expect hitlary to lie in order to fool the ignorant boob rednecks of the right (god,guns,and "gays").

It is a question of just hom much calculated posturing is believable enough for her to achieve her objective.

I wonder if she would want to be president, she can be an important senator on the gravy train for the rest of her life, as president she would have only 4 or 8 years max.


20 posted on 02/28/2005 8:03:00 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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