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Activist Judge Greer plays 'God' as arbiter of life and death - (Catholic Church viewpoint)
CATHOLIC ONLINE.ORG ^ | FEBRUARY 28, 2005 | BARB KRALIS

Posted on 02/28/2005 2:45:29 PM PST by CHARLITE

"No one can be the arbiter of life except God himself." [1]

America suffers from the rule of judges supplanting the rule of law and the will of the people. Men in black robes, rather than legislators, are making and repealing laws. Man's laws and natural laws are being undermined not by legal reasoning but fiat. [2]

Let us look at the judicial homicide case of Terri Schiavo.

In 'virulent judicial activism,'[3] Circuit Judge George Greer of Pinellas County, Florida has recently stated he is no longer "comfortable" in granting Terri Schiavo another 'stay of execution.'

And so, Judge Greer next issued a court order mandating that on March 18, 2005, Terri's palliative care, which is ordinary 'nutrition and hydration' (also crudely known as a 'feeding tube') will be removed, commencing her most painful death by starvation/dehydration.[4]

It is important to understand that a person's 'nutrition and hydration,' whether they are sick or dying, is palliative [normal] care. It is certainly not extraordinary care, as many 'right-to-die' left-leaning judges, attorneys, and the Florida Conference of Catholic Bishops wish us to believe. Contrary to what Terri's own Bishop Robert Lynch[5] falsely teaches, the Vatican teaches that 'nutrition and hydration' can never be withheld [see Pope John Paul II teachings below].

Earlier this year, in a 27-page brief, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, on January 21, 2005, asked the U.S. Supreme Court justices to review and reverse the Florida Supreme Court's Sept. 23 ruling that struck down Florida's "35E Bill - Terri's Law" as unconstitutional. Bush's attorneys argued that the lower courts had denied federally protected rights to due process and equal protection.

Three days later, the nation's nine top justices declined to review the Florida Supreme Court's rescission of "35E Bill - Terri's Law." Gov. Bush vows to continue pursuing all legal options available to him before the March 18 death knell.

Activist Judge Greer has subverted the law by rejecting mountains of evidence and medical information that would have saved Terri from husband Michael and attorney George Felos' suspicious quest to have her murdered. Under Greer's liberal judicial rulings, Terri has been denied her Constitutional right to life and lawful due process.[6]

Subsequently, Judge Greer, the evil facilitator, wrongfully serves as 'God' and arbiter of Terri's life and death.

Is it possible that a criminal case can be made against Michael Schiavo, Attorney Felos, and Judge Greer for 'conspiracy to commit murder?'

Concerning the decades-long despotic exploitation of power by activist judges supplanting the will of the people, outspoken and fearless Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia wrote:

"The Court must be living in another world. Day by day, case by case, it is busy designing a Constitution for a country I do not recognize."[7]

Justice Scalia, a Roman Catholic, whose jurisprudence emphasizes the original meaning of the Constitution and its literal wording of statutes, calls himself a Constitutional 'textualist.'[8] He recently said his colleagues might soon discover a right to assisted suicide between the lines of the text of the Constitution:

"We're not ready to announce [euthanasia] right now. Check back with us," he sarcastically warned.

Another [former] judge who also advocates original or textual interpretation of the Constitution is former U.S. Solicitor General[9] and U.S. Attorney General Robert H. Bork. In his new book, Robert Bork, describes the judicial oligarchy[10] enforcing a new ideology that he calls "lifestyle socialism."[11]

"We are increasingly governed not by law or elected representatives, but by unelected, unrepresentative, unaccountable committees of lawyers applying no law other than their own will. … What judges have wrought is a coup d'etat – slow-moving and genteel – but a coup d'etat nonetheless."

Recently, Roman Catholic Robert Bork wrote in the Wall Street Journal:

"The Supreme Court has created a more permissive abortion regime than any state had enacted; prohibited any exercise or symbol of religion touching even remotely upon government; made the death penalty extremely difficult to impose and execute; disabled states from suppressing pornography; catered to the feminist agenda, including outlawing state all-male military schools; created a labyrinth of procedures making criminal prosecutions ever more difficult; used racial classifications to exclude children from their neighborhood public schools; perverted the political process by upholding campaign finance limits that shift political power to incumbents, journalists and labor unions; licensed the advocacy of violence and law violation; and protected as free speech computer-generated child pornography. These decisions are activist, i.e., not plausibly related to the actual Constitution."[12]

World moral leader Pope John Paul II declared recently that withholding 'nutrition and hydration' is "euthanasia by omission" and is forbidden.[13]

"No matter how sick a person is, he is and will always be a man, never becoming a vegetable or animal," said the Holy Father. Thank God, the ailing Pope does not reside in Pinellas County.

Nonetheless, disregarding Terri's personal Catholic faith, the arrogant activist Judge Greer had twice before ordered Terri's 'nutrition and hydration' removed. The first execution was commenced in April 200l, whereas Terri suffered two-and-a-half days of starvation and dehydration. Again, another execution was commenced in October 2003.

Due to the 'special session' intervention of Florida Governor Jeb Bush, the Legislature on October 21, passed "35E Bill – Terry's Law," allowing Terri's palliative care resumed after six days of excruciating pain.

On May 6, 2004, liberal activist Judge W. Douglas Baird of Pinellas Circuit Court, ruled "35E Bill - Terri's Law" unconstitutional.

Terri Schiavo is non-terminal, non-PVS, she is not near death, she is not even sick. Terri can speak a few words and expresses joy and excitement at seeing her family. In fact, Terri can be trained from requiring the 'feeding tube.' Terri suffers from brain damage or cognitive disability, which can be treated and improved, although there are varying 'opinions' as to the degree of improvement expected. To date, her estranged, adulterous husband, Michael Schiavo, has curiously withheld this traditional, basic therapy from Terri.

The Catholic Church teaches that morally no one may remove 'nutrition and hydration' from another simply because they suffer from illness or are near death. If a person were near death, and Terri Schiavo certainly is not, compassionate caregivers and loved ones would not want to cause excruciating pain and agony due to withdrawal of food and water to a terminal patient in their last days. Nutrition and hydration should always be administered as humane, palliative, and ordinary care.[14]

Recently, Cardinal Renato Martino, president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, spoke to Vatican Radio in an appeal to Judge Greer, Terri's husband Michael and Michael's 'right-to-die' attorney George Felos to save Terri's life.[15]

"If Mr. Schiavo succeeds legally in causing the death of his [16] wife, this not only would be tragic in itself, but would be a grave step toward the legal approval of euthanasia in the United States.

"I would like to remind everyone in this connection, about all that the Holy Father has said in past days to the Pontifical Academy for Life, confirming that the quality of life is not interpreted as economic success, beauty and physical pleasure, but consists in the supreme dignity of the creature made in the image and likeness of God," Cardinal Martino said.

"No one can be the arbiter of life except God himself" [Pope JPII].


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: arbiter; catholic; church; florida; god; godslaws; johnpaulii; judgegreer; life; manslaws; meninblack; pope; schiavo; teachings; terri; terrischaivo; terrischiavo
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To: dfrussell
Yeah, I was waiting for nazi card....

Of course you were expecting it.

When you're saying, 'They're just doing their job', in reference to killing helpless people who can't defend themselves, the parallel is obvious.

41 posted on 02/28/2005 4:57:13 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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To: Saundra Duffy

It's becoming more and more obvious that the bulk of the lawyers are completely impervious to understanding a simple reading of the Bill of Rights.

They're immune...


42 posted on 02/28/2005 4:59:46 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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To: Saundra Duffy; Diana in Wisconsin

(Reprinted from NewsMax.com)

'Million Dollar Baby' Is a Neo-Nazi Movie
Dr. Ted Baehr Saturday, Feb. 12, 2005

The forerunner of "Million Dollar Baby" was the very entertaining Nazi movie "I Accuse," which won the top prize at the Venice Film Festival and was the propaganda that Dr. Goebbels used to convince the German people to switch their vote from "vehemently opposed to the holocaust" to over 60 percent in favor of so-called "mercy killing." In fact, "I Accuse" is a very subtle film that inspired the killing of millions of people.

Dr. Joseph Goebbels was the National Socialist (Nazi) propaganda minister from 1933 to 1945. He exploited radio, press, cinema and theater in Germany to destroy the Jews, evangelical Christians, handicapped Germans and other groups. In 1994, the Discovery Channel aired "Selling Murder," an important documentary investigating how Goebbels used mass media to influence the German people to accept the mass murder of human beings. The documentary shows that at a time when a majority of German people rejected mercy killings (a euphemism for murder), Goebbels produced the movie "I Accuse," an emotive feature film about a beautiful, intelligent woman who is dying of an incurable disease and begs to be allowed to commit suicide.

After the movie was released, a majority of German people said they had changed their minds and now supported mercy killings. After a few more of Goebbels' films about invalids and handicapped people, the German people became strong believers in the efficacy of mass mercy killings.

While the attempted annihilation of Jews by the National Socialists is well documented, the atrocities did not stop with the Jewish race. The main focus of "Selling Murder" is a group that has been somewhat overlooked: the mentally and physically ill of Germany. In 1939, Hitler ordered the killing of the mentally and physically disabled, labeling them as "life unworthy of life."

His reasoning was that the cost of keeping them alive in asylums and hospitals was too great. The real reason, however, stemmed from the government's determination to eliminate any threat to its idea of producing a superior race.

"Selling Murder" is must viewing for every moral person concerned about the use of the mass media of entertainment to influence societal behavior. Similarities between the National Socialist use of film and "Million Dollar Baby" are frightening.

In a January 27, 2005 article in the Los Angeles Times, Marcie Roth, executive director of the National Spinal Cord Injury Association, a national advocacy group with 13,000 members, was quoted as saying that "this narrative development spreads a socially irresponsible message. The movie is saying ‘death is better than disability.'"

The Los Angeles Times continues: "The group contends that the movie is part of a larger bias Eastwood holds against the disabled. A press release on its website carries the headline, ‘Eastwood Continues Disability Vendetta with "Million Dollar Baby." Labeling the movie a ‘brilliantly executed attack,' it also details a 1997 lawsuit in which a disabled woman sued the actor-director, saying he did not provide handicapped-accessible restroom facilities at the Carmel, Calif., resort he owned."

The press release goes on to divulge the movie's plot. "Our responsibility is to the half-million people with spinal cord injuries, not to moviegoers or moviemakers," Roth said.

Rush Limbaugh blasted "Million Dollar Baby" as a "million dollar euthanasia movie." Critic Michael Medved told USA Today that he had revealed the plot twist because "there are competing moral demands that come into the job of a movie critic. We have a moral and fairness obligation to not spoil movies. On the other hand, our primary moral obligation is to tell the truth."

Medved, who says he "hated this movie," also eemarked, "They didn't want to tell people what it is [about] because no one would come." Jewish columnist Don Feder says that "the screenplay could have been smuggled out of Dr. Jack Kevorkian's prison cell."

Furthermore, my wife has been on chemotherapy for ten years and is in great pain. California is now considering a so-called "doctor-assisted suicide" law. The connection is too horrible.

Love should never trump conscience. Murder is not excusable, even when it is art. And the renowned director of "Million Dollar Baby" is not conservative (contrary to the witless commentary in the Los Angeles Times), except in the sense that the National Socialists were branded as conservative. In truth, real Christian conservatives support life, not murder.



117 posted on 02/28/2005 7:56:12 PM EST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)


43 posted on 02/28/2005 5:04:34 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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To: EternalVigilance

Thank goodness I heard enough about "Million Dollar Baby" to know to stay away from it! If I'd had to judge whether to see the movie based on the title, I might have thought it was a movie about adoption or a difficult pregnancy and gone to see it.

There is an older (1970s) movie with a similar story but 180 degrees from "Million Dollar Baby." It was called "The Other Side of the Mountain," a true story about a young woman, a skier who had a real chance at winning Olympic gold--until she broke her neck in a skiing accident. The movie was poignant, touching, tear-jerking, etc., but it was always about affirming life, making the best of it even after all your hopes and dreams are shattered in a horrible moment. I believe the heroine of the movie is still alive.


44 posted on 02/28/2005 6:34:42 PM PST by exDemMom (Democrats must care deeply about the poor--they want so many of them!)
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To: exDemMom

Indeed. How the times have changed, eh?


45 posted on 02/28/2005 6:36:12 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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To: OhioAttorney

So those of us who do not accept the position that the purported cronology presents all the facts, answers all the questions about the husband's (and his attorney's) motives, and that Greer has acted in the best interest of Terry are irrational flamers, correct? If we believe the posting of this "information" sans a counter is anything but a poorly disquised attempt to weight the argument in the husband's favor, we are irrational flamers? right?


46 posted on 03/01/2005 9:33:13 AM PST by Les_Miserables
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To: CHARLITE

Thanks to Pope John Paul, I have a new tagline.


47 posted on 03/01/2005 9:36:55 AM PST by Darnright (No matter how sick a person is, he is and will always be a man, never becoming a vegetable or animal)
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To: CHARLITE
What is the Jewish Community's stand on this case?

I was surprised to get an e-mail from our daughter who have converted from Christianity to the Jew-ism when married a Jewish man a few years ago. I'm appalled that she think that Michael Schiavo has the right to do what he's doing. So with that said, I come to think, where do the Jewish Community stand with the Holocaust in mind vs. this case???
48 posted on 03/01/2005 9:50:43 AM PST by danamco
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To: supercat
Why would the SCoFla and SCotUS have to be "in on it"? I just described how one bad trial-court judge can make errors which cannot be corrected on appeal. No need for other courts to be corrupt

No, really, it's a huge conspiracy. Skull&Bones has completely taken over the government and they've gotten together with the ChiComs to turn the entire US into a slave camp complete with human sacrifices. Radio and TV stations have subchannels that are weakening us and commercial jets are spraying mindcontrol chemicals over the entire US.

49 posted on 03/01/2005 10:39:33 AM PST by dfrussell
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To: EternalVigilance
When you're saying, 'They're just doing their job', in reference to killing helpless people who can't defend themselves, the parallel is obvious.

When you adopt the tactics of screaming "nazi" at anyone who disagrees with you, you marginalize yourself and permit everyone to ignore your entire argument...

Just like I'm doing.

50 posted on 03/01/2005 10:53:50 AM PST by dfrussell
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To: dfrussell

I notice you don't refute the truth of the parallel I drew.

And I didn't scream.

Those who argue on the side of the culture of death ignore simple truths regularly.

Sorry to see you falling into that habit...


51 posted on 03/01/2005 10:59:28 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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To: EternalVigilance
I notice you don't refute the truth of the parallel I drew.

What you see as "truth," I see as an assumption based upon your beliefs... not that I expect you to appreciate the difference.

And I didn't scream.

When you start by drawing comparisons to the nazis, you've marginalized yourself and your arguments... and you're screaming.

Those who argue on the side of the culture of death ignore simple truths regularly.

"Culture of death" "simple truth"...

Yeah, sure.... more "nazi" etc. Whatever.

Until you understand that someone just might be a reasonable person and not see everything the same way you do, your arguments are kneejerk and easily ignored.

Rather than actually think about things, you and most of the rest of the people going on about this case just toss out ugly insults to people whom you know nothing about.

52 posted on 03/01/2005 1:04:25 PM PST by dfrussell
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To: CHARLITE
This is how Terri is fed:

What I can't understand is why it's seen as "extraordinary measures" when a colostomy is not? They both concern a digestive process as in "in one end and out the other. No. I'm not trying to be funny.

And this is bigger than just Terri. There is a euthanasia movement in Florida and Schiavo is part of it. His fathers feeding tube was pulled in '97 and his mothers in 2001. It's in the Larry King interview.

53 posted on 03/01/2005 1:20:27 PM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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To: dfrussell

Hey, when someone uses the 'I was only doing my job' excuse to justify killing the helpless and innocent, you should expect folks to draw the most famous example of that ruse.


54 posted on 03/01/2005 1:23:17 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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To: dfrussell
Rather than actually think about things, you and most of the rest of the people going on about this case just toss out ugly insults to people whom you know nothing about.

I upped my rhetoric the other day when the pro-death folks here started tossing out the vile 'Terri cultists' slur.

It is they who are part of a cult...the Cult of Death.

55 posted on 03/01/2005 1:24:54 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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To: rdcorso
I always thought that when there is doubt in a case of life or death you come down on the side of life.

Actually, that is the most cogent argument by any Freeper that I have heard made on Terri's behalf. Kudos to you.

56 posted on 03/01/2005 1:28:48 PM PST by ContraryMary
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To: Les_Miserables

It is not anymore different from the report of Terri's Guardian than the posted article is... I'd say it is probably less so.


57 posted on 03/01/2005 1:28:56 PM PST by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: dfrussell
Rather than actually think about things, you and most of the rest of the people going on about this case just toss out ugly insults to people whom you know nothing about

It's difficult to understand why people don't err on the side of life.

It's difficult to understand why the judge will not hear all things submitted to the court, some of them pending for 3 years or more.

It's difficult to understand why the judge will not allow newer tests, some of them just recently named in this article New Signs of Awareness Seen in Some Brain-Injured Patients.

It's difficult to understand why the judge ordered in 2001 that Terri cannot be fed by mouth either.
Source
Judge Greer's response when he learned of the feeding attempt:
“I don’t want anyone trying to feed that girl”, Greer thundered from the bench in 2001. Greer’s statement, “the law of the case is that she is going to die” , is part of the court record.

It's difficult to understand why the judge has denied Terri an attorney of her own,( Judge denies motion to appoint attorney for Terri Schiavo ) and names himself her ad litem which is not legal (Source).

58 posted on 03/01/2005 1:43:56 PM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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To: EternalVigilance

"You make my point for me.
All of your posts make my point for me.
"You're an offense to everyone here with your pro-death posts and your insults towards those who care about protecting the rights of the helpless."

KDD is not an offense to me nor to many others who do not hold to your illogical viewpoints. To me KDD is a breath of rational fresh air on these highly irrational Schiavo threads. All emotionalism with no thought is what reigns supreme on these threads, for the most part. Also, too mny Terri supporters fling false accusations and insults at anyone who dares disagree with their party line. You'd think you are living in the old Soviet Republic, no dissenters allowed.

Keep up the good work KDD. It's not easy to stay on these threads as the thought processes of too many of the Schiavo supporters are really warped and they will go after you like Pirana fish. And believe me, they are too far gone to fix. However, I believe it is necessary for a quasi-debate to take place, not just a monologue amongst themselves, as other people come to this site and read these Schiavo threads and they've got to be thinking that there are a bunch of far rightwing religious zealots on this website and nothing else. So keep up the good work KDD. You are helping to advertise that not everyone thinks like these people do, and thus doing FR a big favor.


59 posted on 03/01/2005 1:55:54 PM PST by flaglady47
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To: flaglady47
Ezekiel 34

Irresponsible Shepherds

God the True Shepherd

1 And the word of the LORD came to me, saying, 2"Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy and say to them, "Thus says the Lord GOD to the shepherds: "Woe to the shepherds of Israel who feed themselves! Should not the shepherds feed the flocks? 3You eat the fat and clothe yourselves with the wool; you slaughter the fatlings, but you do not feed the flock. 4The weak you have not strengthened, nor have you healed those who were sick, nor bound up the broken, nor brought back what was driven away, nor sought what was lost; but with force and cruelty you have ruled them. 5So they were scattered because there was no shepherd; and they became food for all the beasts of the field when they were scattered. 6My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and on every high hill; yes, My flock was scattered over the whole face of the earth, and no one was seeking or searching for them."

7"Therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of the LORD: 8"As I live," says the Lord GOD, "surely because My flock became a prey, and My flock became food for every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, nor did My shepherds search for My flock, but the shepherds fed themselves and did not feed My flock"-- 9therefore, O shepherds, hear the word of the LORD! 10Thus says the Lord GOD: "Behold, I am against the shepherds, and I will require My flock at their hand; I will cause them to cease feeding the sheep, and the shepherds shall feed themselves no more; for I will deliver My flock from their mouths, that they may no longer be food for them."

God, the True Shepherd

11"For thus says the Lord GOD: "Indeed I Myself will search for My sheep and seek them out. 12As a shepherd seeks out his flock on the day he is among his scattered sheep, so will I seek out My sheep and deliver them from all the places where they were scattered on a cloudy and dark day. 13And I will bring them out from the peoples and gather them from the countries, and will bring them to their own land; I will feed them on the mountains of Israel, in the valleys and in all the inhabited places of the country. 14I will feed them in good pasture, and their fold shall be on the high mountains of Israel. There they shall lie down in a good fold and feed in rich pasture on the mountains of Israel. 15I will feed My flock, and I will make them lie down," says the Lord GOD. 16"I will seek what was lost and bring back what was driven away, bind up the broken and strengthen what was sick; but I will destroy the fat and the strong, and feed them in judgment."

17"And as for you, O My flock, thus says the Lord GOD: "Behold, I shall judge between sheep and sheep, between rams and goats. 18Is it too little for you to have eaten up the good pasture, that you must tread down with your feet the residue of your pasture--and to have drunk of the clear waters, that you must foul the residue with your feet? 19And as for My flock, they eat what you have trampled with your feet, and they drink what you have fouled with your feet."

20"Therefore thus says the Lord GOD to them: "Behold, I Myself will judge between the fat and the lean sheep. 21Because you have pushed with side and shoulder, butted all the weak ones with your horns, and scattered them abroad, 22therefore I will save My flock, and they shall no longer be a prey; and I will judge between sheep and sheep. 23I will establish one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them--My servant David. He shall feed them and be their shepherd. 24And I, the LORD, will be their God, and My servant David a prince among them; I, the LORD, have spoken.

60 posted on 03/01/2005 2:05:18 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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