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Activist Judge Greer plays 'God' as arbiter of life and death - (Catholic Church viewpoint)
CATHOLIC ONLINE.ORG ^ | FEBRUARY 28, 2005 | BARB KRALIS

Posted on 02/28/2005 2:45:29 PM PST by CHARLITE

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It seems to me that Michael Schaivo and Judge Greer have been allowed to get away with the most appalling illegal act. They have, in effect, placed this innocent young woman on death row. They have pronounced a death sentence upon Terri and have set a date of execution! How else can this situation be interpreted?
1 posted on 02/28/2005 2:45:36 PM PST by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

Even dogs and cats as cows and horses have to be fed by law in Missouri, and if the are not, the law as a remedy for evil people who would starve their animals.


2 posted on 02/28/2005 2:53:39 PM PST by tessalu
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To: CHARLITE

Michaek Schaivo is a your basic homicidal bigamous husband (with his common law wife and kids) trying to murder the "wife" Terri he physically abused for many years (and probably nearly killed), for the proceeds from the phony malpractice suit he scammed. He is blessed by locking into Greer, a narcissistic Judicial Tyrant of the worst sort, a living testimany for the need for massive reform of our corrupt courts.


3 posted on 02/28/2005 2:53:49 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: CHARLITE
THE TERRI SCHIAVO INFORMATION PAGE
4 posted on 02/28/2005 2:58:25 PM PST by KDD
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This is trash masquerading as "information" and clearly does not address the many questions surrounding Terry's husband's behavior or that of his attorney or the Judge...this junk should not be injected into a forum whose objective is to preserve life. The blogger is a known advocate of right to die causes and not nearly as "uninterested" as he claims.


5 posted on 02/28/2005 3:11:23 PM PST by Les_Miserables
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To: CHARLITE

Can President Bush intervene using one of the civil rights laws? I've heard of the feds prosecuting murder cases using one of those statutes.


6 posted on 02/28/2005 3:14:58 PM PST by wiley
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To: CHARLITE
Activist Judge Greer has subverted the law by rejecting mountains of evidence and medical information that would have saved Terri from husband Michael and attorney George Felos' suspicious quest to have her murdered. Under Greer's liberal judicial rulings, Terri has been denied her Constitutional right to life and lawful due process.[6]

Nonesense.

The case has been to the USSC. You may not like the decision, but the Judge is doing his job and following the law.

7 posted on 02/28/2005 3:20:13 PM PST by dfrussell
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To: Les_Miserables

Blatant lies serve no ones interest.

I posted this a a source for people to learn the facts that were brought before the court. Freepers are smart enough to separate truth from hype and distortion. I can also post the Guardian ad litems report. The GAL appointed under "Terri's Law" to advise the Governor.

The terricultists like those facts even less.


8 posted on 02/28/2005 3:21:36 PM PST by KDD
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To: CHARLITE

I don't understand how they came to the conclusion that Terri would not want to live as she is. If she didn't take the initiative to choose death in a will, how can anyone presume to know what she wants? Apparently, Michael is claiming Terri wouldn't have wanted to live in an assisted state. Well, it sure must not have been that important to her if she never left it in writing. I also don't understand why Terri's parents weren't given custody when it was learned Michael was shacking up with a bimbo.


9 posted on 02/28/2005 3:43:14 PM PST by 1Peter3v14
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To: KDD
I'm no cultist but I can spot lopsided trash when I see it. You are right about Freepers and every time this rot has popped up on any of these forums it has been denounced for what it is.
None of this "info" explains the behavior and comments of the parties involved that are conveniently left out of the blog. Trash is trash and you can't dress it up and pretend it is the truth.
10 posted on 02/28/2005 3:44:19 PM PST by Les_Miserables
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To: CHARLITE
If Terri, nor anyone else in Florida, has no right to commit suicide, how can the state help her husband to "help" her commit suicide?
11 posted on 02/28/2005 3:48:20 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (In dealing with liberals remember When you wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty and he loves it.)
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To: Les_Miserables

It will be referenced on every thread on this subject I see.


12 posted on 02/28/2005 3:49:57 PM PST by KDD
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To: dfrussell
The case has been to the USSC. You may not like the decision, but the Judge is doing his job and following the law.

Under rules of judicial procedure, a judge's findings that particular witnesses and pieces of evidence are credible or not credible are not subject to appellate review.

Judge Greer's rulings may be almost reasonable if all the evidence he regarded as 'credible' was actually true and all the evidence he regarded as 'not credible' was actually false, but that doesn't mean they're right. Any reasonable person would be able to see that Greer has accepted evidence that should not be considered nearly as credible as some of the evidence he has rejected. Unfortunately, the appeals process offers no protection against such things.

13 posted on 02/28/2005 3:53:40 PM PST by supercat (For Florida officials to be free of the Albatross, they should let it fly away.)
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Well, it sure must not have been that important to her if she never left it in writing.

Whatdya wanna try to be sensible for? I also don't understand why Terri's parents weren't given custody when it was learned Michael was shacking up with a bimbo.

They filed a challenge to Michael's guardianship in 2002. Greer refuses to schedule it.

14 posted on 02/28/2005 3:55:28 PM PST by supercat (For Florida officials to be free of the Albatross, they should let it fly away.)
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Michael Schiavo did not make the decision to discontinue life-prolonging measures for Terri. As Terri's husband, Michael has been her guardian and her surrogate decision-maker. By 1998, though -- eight years after the trauma that produced Terri's situation -- Michael and Terri's parents disagreed over the proper course for her.

Rather than make the decision himself, Michael followed a procedure permitted by Florida courts by which a surrogate such as Michael can petition a court, asking the court to act as the ward's surrogate and determine what the ward would decide to do. Michael did this, and based on statements Terri made to him and others, he took the position that Terri would not wish to continue life-prolonging measures. The Schindlers took the position that Terri would continue life-prolonging measures. Under this procedure, the trial court becomes the surrogate decision-maker, and that is what happened in this case.

I'll bet he wishes he'd not bothered to take the parents doubts into court. Otherwise he could have arbitrarily refused treatment and ordered the tubes removed and a DNR on his authority as guardian.

So much for the attempted murder theory.

13 posted on 02/25/2005 1:44:54 PM EST by KDD

Feeding and hydration are not 'life-prolonging measures' in the sense you culture of death frauds try to portray.

15 posted on 02/28/2005 3:57:38 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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Blatant lies serve no ones interest.

They sure seem to serve your purposes real well.

16 posted on 02/28/2005 3:59:01 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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To: EternalVigilance

The Legislature recognizes that for some the administration of life-prolonging medical procedures may result in only a precarious and burdensome existence. In order to ensure that the rights and intentions of a person may be respected even after he or she is no longer able to participate actively in decisions concerning himself or herself, and to encourage communication among such patient, his or her family, and his or her physician, the Legislature declares that the laws of this state recognize the right of a competent adult to make an advance directive instructing his or her physician to provide, withhold, or withdraw life-prolonging procedures, or to designate another to make the treatment decision for him or her in the event that such person should become incapacitated and unable to personally direct his or her medical care. § 765.102(3), Florida Statutes.

The Legislature has also defined what is a "life-prolonging procedure":


"Life-prolonging procedure" means any medical procedure, treatment, or intervention, including artificially provided sustenance and hydration, which sustains, restores, or supplants a spontaneous vital function. The term does not include the administration of medication or performance of medical procedure, when such medication or procedure is deemed necessary to provide comfort care or to alleviate pain. § 765.101(10), Florida Statutes (italics added by me).


17 posted on 02/28/2005 4:00:21 PM PST by KDD
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...but the Judge is doing his job and following the law.

That was what the Nazi prison guards and SS officers said, once upon a time.

But in any case, the Judge is not following the law. Read the Declaration of Independence, the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution in the Bill of Rights, and the Florida constitution. All of those documents, the documents that are the basis of all of our laws in this country, spell out the unalienable right to life clearly and unequivically.

18 posted on 02/28/2005 4:02:41 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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You terricultists have perfected the politics of personal attack, truth distortion and slander. Doesn't bother me. I'm old enough to have barnacles on my shell.
19 posted on 02/28/2005 4:03:35 PM PST by KDD
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You're a ghoul.


20 posted on 02/28/2005 4:03:56 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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