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Terri Schiavo's parents ask judge to let her divorce husband
The Miami Herald ^ | 2-28-05 | VICKIE CHACHERE

Posted on 02/28/2005 1:47:24 PM PST by TAdams8591

VICKIE CHACHERE

Associated Press

TAMPA, Fla. - Terri Schiavo's parents asked a Pinellas court judge Monday to allow her to divorce her husband - in either life or death - in a court filing accusing Michael Schiavo of adultery and not acting in his wife's best interests.

The filing was one of a flurry of 15 motions filed by Bob and Mary Schindler as they now have less than three weeks to find a legal way to keep their severely brain-damaged daughter alive.

Terri Schiavo is scheduled to have the feeding tube that has kept her alive for 15 years removed March 18 unless her parents can convince an appeals court to block Michael Schiavo again. Michael Schiavo says he will have the tube pulled because his wife once told him she would never want to be kept alive artificially.

David Gibbs, the Schindler's attorney, said Pinellas Circuit Court Judge George Greer has indicated he will not hear the divorce request and five other motions filed Monday - but that only means that the matters are now on their way to being appealed to the 2nd District Court of Appeal in Lakeland........

Terri Schiavo's parents ask judge to let her divorce husband

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: davidgibbs; divorcemichaelyeah; feedingtube; judgegreer; michaelschiavo; schiavo; terrischiavo; terrisfight; walkawaymichael
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To: Sun

A Catholic annulment has no bearing on a civil divorce.

As far as a civil divorce or annulment, someone would have to see if she would be able to. There is certain criteria that has to be met.


41 posted on 02/28/2005 2:26:16 PM PST by atruelady
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To: TAdams8591

If you think that "you can bet" should serve as a basis for legal decisions on the wishes of one who is unable to convey those wishes, then you are stupid and ill-informed.


42 posted on 02/28/2005 2:26:32 PM PST by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: lugsoul

The evidence Michael presented was as much hearsay as the divorce question. The "evidence" MS presented was in fact contradicted. It was hearsay period. The judge chose to believe MS version of the story.

I agree with you completely that there is no place in the courtroom for hearsay. Unfortunately in this case it is specifically hearsay that may sentence this woman to death.


43 posted on 02/28/2005 2:26:44 PM PST by msp2004
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To: TAdams8591

Ah, this is the dilemna and the key to understanding the mistake Judge Greer has made. He has granted to Terri's Husband the power-of-attorney for purposes of the termination of life. OK, I think in general we want our spouses, not our other family members, to take that role.

But this new motion contains facts which suggest a reasonable expectation that the wife would want to take action against the husband. With a question raised involving the husband as the opponent, and with the wife incapacitated, the law would require the appointment of an independent advocate for the possible plaintiff, which would make an argument for the plaintiff before a judge.

But in this case the Judge has ruled that he is Terri's guardian for this purpose. The law of course does not expect judges to be advocates, but rather to be the adjudicators. By being both the advocate and juror, the judge has eliminated a legal safeguard.

We certainly can't take Michael's word that Terri would approve of him living with another woman without wanting a divorce. That is an issue which needs to be decided by a court after hearing testimony, a case in which both sides are represented by council. Since Judge Greer refuses to allow Terri to have her own council, he has in effect prevented her from exercising her rights under Florida Law.

If the parents could figure out a way to get Terri to another state, they could get a lawyer in that state to file in that state's court for a divorce. Then we would have two states fighting over jurisdiction in a divorce case, along with a kidnapping case.

Charles


44 posted on 02/28/2005 2:27:29 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: lugsoul

Terri's friend and co-worker Jackie Rhodes testified that Terri had discussed divorce from Michael with her, and that the two were planning to share an apartment. Haven't you done any of your homework? If you had, you would know this by now. It's not exactly new information.


45 posted on 02/28/2005 2:28:43 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
The word is not my hang up. My hang up is people who have no more connection to this case than reading media reports claiming the right to decide what did and did not happen.

Maybe Terri did tell Michael she didn't want to be kept alive. Maybe she doesn't want your "help." You'll never know.

46 posted on 02/28/2005 2:28:59 PM PST by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: TAdams8591

47 posted on 02/28/2005 2:29:26 PM PST by floriduh voter (PRIMO TERRI NEWS www.theempirejournal.com Send everybody there!!!)
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To: lugsoul

Terri's friend said it. I am sure there is someone who knows exactly where to find the quote.


48 posted on 02/28/2005 2:29:56 PM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: tang-soo
Just as Michael has claimed that "Terry would never want to live in this fashion - she said so", her parents should be able to claim "Our daughter would never want to remain married to a two timing (actually three timing) ba$tard of a husband - she said so."

Bingo!

49 posted on 02/28/2005 2:31:20 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl
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To: lugsoul
If she said so. Or do you want them to lie under oath if she didn't?

A better question would be "would I be willing to risk serving a jail sentence for purjury if it meant saving the life of my child?" Hmm, let me think about that for awhile. (sarcasm). I was simply pointing out how silly this whole notion is that Michael's entire case is built around his undocumented statement about his wife's wishes. And the court's willingness to accept this over erroring on the side of life. To me it's a death culture issue that this judge is embracing - and in my opinion all too eagerly.
50 posted on 02/28/2005 2:33:04 PM PST by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: lugsoul

Go away please!


51 posted on 02/28/2005 2:33:05 PM PST by Halls
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Thank you for the information. It would be interesting.

Unfortunately, Terri's parents couldn't get her to another state without being charged with kidnapping.

53 posted on 02/28/2005 2:33:34 PM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: lugsoul
But your willingness to scrap the entire legal system to decide the case based upon your hunches is terrifying.

If this 'legal' system allows Terri to be starved to death, it's time to scrap it!

54 posted on 02/28/2005 2:33:48 PM PST by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: lugsoul

Wrong, wrong, wrong.


There are plenty of states that grant divorces on the basis of adultery.

Not all states have adopted the "no fault" statutes.

Alsok you don't seem to be able to read the posts, or are deliberately ignoring (for meaningless arguing), to see that all of us in support of Terri are seeking a judge who will READ the petitions/briefs brought before it.

It is the right of every citizen to bring a court petition and the RIGHT to have that petition heard in full.

Greer rejects them without examining one shred of documentation. He has been doing it all along and he and the rest of the death-camp Nazi's say "that matter was already before the court, blah blah blah", knowing full well it wasn't even HEARD. When the appeals work there way up the chain, no one will hear is saying its already been heard. This is one of the biggest crocks of this whole mess!!

You live with your head in the sand.


55 posted on 02/28/2005 2:34:34 PM PST by atruelady
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To: TAdams8591
Does anyone know the laws regarding "common law" marriage in Florida? How long do people have to live together for it to be considered a "common law" marriage there? Perhaps, if the amt. of time Terri's husband has been with another woman qualifies it as a common law marriage, then Terri could divorce him on the grounds he is a bigot. Two wives?

I doubt the state of Florida allows bigotry. And the state would be forced to press charges against him too. I know, this is way out - but sometimes desperate measures yeild results. Just wondering.

56 posted on 02/28/2005 2:35:00 PM PST by CitizenM (GOD SAVE OUR CHILDREN from teachers, terrorists, preditors, and liberals. Amen)
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To: AaronInCarolina

Exactly!!!!!


57 posted on 02/28/2005 2:35:21 PM PST by Halls
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To: floriduh voter

You're so cute the way you say "cereal" killer.

Greers picture looks like is belongs on a milk carton, or he could be the cereal box cover for "Serial Killers cereal...the breakfast of death camp warriors".


58 posted on 02/28/2005 2:36:35 PM PST by atruelady
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To: houeto

Excellent point! How low does the legal system have to sink before some people realize, it may no longer be worth keeping!


59 posted on 02/28/2005 2:36:45 PM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: atruelady

Can you read? The assertion was that a divorce for adultery would be "automatic" - and that just ain't the case.


60 posted on 02/28/2005 2:37:18 PM PST by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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