Posted on 02/28/2005 1:47:24 PM PST by TAdams8591
VICKIE CHACHERE
Associated Press
TAMPA, Fla. - Terri Schiavo's parents asked a Pinellas court judge Monday to allow her to divorce her husband - in either life or death - in a court filing accusing Michael Schiavo of adultery and not acting in his wife's best interests.
The filing was one of a flurry of 15 motions filed by Bob and Mary Schindler as they now have less than three weeks to find a legal way to keep their severely brain-damaged daughter alive.
Terri Schiavo is scheduled to have the feeding tube that has kept her alive for 15 years removed March 18 unless her parents can convince an appeals court to block Michael Schiavo again. Michael Schiavo says he will have the tube pulled because his wife once told him she would never want to be kept alive artificially.
David Gibbs, the Schindler's attorney, said Pinellas Circuit Court Judge George Greer has indicated he will not hear the divorce request and five other motions filed Monday - but that only means that the matters are now on their way to being appealed to the 2nd District Court of Appeal in Lakeland........
Terri Schiavo's parents ask judge to let her divorce husband
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Yep. I missed the original, where it's obvious that someone is talking about making stuff up out of thin air.
I stand corrected.......
No big.
That said, at this point, it is NOT a FACT that Michael physically abused Terri, but a STRONG SUSPICION. However, Michael's poor treatment of Terri these past ten years, IS a FACT. His sudden, recall (after five years), that Terri stated she wouldn't want to be hooked up to tubes, is completely self-serving and deep inside Micahel KNOWS it. Who among us hasn't made a comment while watching the news or a movie that we wouldn't want to live in a particular situation. It doesn't mean we would want to be starved to death or even that we wouldn't live in such a situation if we had to. It only means we don't WANT to. To send someone to death based on such comments (even if Terri HAD made them) is nothing less than INSANE.
Finally, there is greater evidence that Michael may have physically abused Terri, than there is evidence that Terri made that statement. Thus, the STATE may starve Terri to death based on weaker evidence, than the evidence with which the state is REFUSING to INVESTIGATE Michael Schiavo.
That Michael BEAT Terri is not also a possibility?
Well, two more. Was Terri being treated for bulemia before her collapse? How is the evidence GREATER that Terri was bulemic than that Michael was physically abusive?
I don't know, TT. I made a comment very similar to Terri's about Karen Ann Quinlin, and on other occasions, when people close to me became terminally ill. There is nothing farfetched about it.
This is my point exactly. I've made comments to my wife about these issues, I figure most people have, and I don't think more than a tiny percentage say "Leve me hooked up to a machine for as long as you can, I'm sure a coma will be restful."
But does anybody who is concerned about being a vegetable on life support really mean "starve me to death?" And if they really did, wouldn't that be so clearly insane that the law should ignore it? One might as well ask to be immolated, at least that would be shorter.
Oh, I have too. I just think the testimony and timing among them is suspicious.
That's debatable.
And God forbid we straighten it out now... Your argument is weak and irrelevant.
BTW, still waiting for a citation on a person's RIGHT to a dignified death and an example of a dignified death... Any takers out there amongst the pro-death-killahs-of-the-disabled-based-on-a-rumor folks? Anyone? A n y o n e . . ?
Wrong. It is the argument that prevails in the court. Every one of the motions filed on Terri's behalf by her parents require that the parents be Terri's guardians in order to have standing. Michael Schiavo is Terri's guardian, however. That's been the problem the entire time.
And the guardianship issue where the parents unquestionably do have standing is somehow one that the Great High Lord Judge Greer is always to busy to address.
Just curious, do you suggest that the Schindlers just give up?
No, it's been addressed. Repeatedly. Unfortunately, the Schindlers have also lost repeatedly, because their attorney has that same steady competence displayed by other notable Florida advocates...specifically, Jack "Batman" Thompson and Larry "Judicial Watch" Klayman.
Just curious, do you suggest that the Schindlers just give up?
Well, let's see . . .
They've used quack medicine extensively--which, BTW, really hurts you when it comes up in court. Their attorney ignored the one legal argument that MIGHT work (an "argument in equity" approach) and instead engaged in a long, drawn-out legal farce. At some point, they will be forced to give up--when either their money runs out, or the legal system's patience does (and they get tagged as "vexatious litigators."
They've done all that they can short of stepping outside the law and imposing a little street justice on Michael Schiavo.
Actually, they do.
You are using the illogic known as "begging the question."
No, I'm not. I'm pointing out the present situation, and why the Schindlers are not having any success.
Your argument's premise is false, therefore I cannot agree with your conclusion.
Arguing with me on this point is like arguing with gravity. Gravity may not be fair, but it's the law, and it is ruthlessly enforced.
Your premise that it is to be decided in the courtroom means I must suspend knowledge of the repeated acts of malfeasance and incompetence on the part of KILLAH Judge Greer.
If you have direct knowledge of malfeasance or incompetence on the part of a sitting judge, and are doing nothing about it, then you are guilty of aiding and abetting same. If you have hearsay knowledge, then it's irrelevant and inadmissable.
In addition, I cannot agree that Michael Schiavo should make decisions on behalf of his "ward" because he has repeatedly violated guardianship laws and his guardianship of Terri should therefore be voided.
Same issue. Either you have direct knowledge, or you don't.
The law says that Michael Schiavo has standing, and the Schindlers do not, unless they can demonstrate to the contrary. They have repeatedly failed to do so.
Based upon what has gone on in KILLAH Judge Greer's courtroom with respect to Terri Schindler Schiavo is by definition unjust. So, as you so politely and gently put it -- WRONG!
No, I'm correct. The problem you have is that the outcome--for whatever reason, including the Schindlers' propensity for surrounding themselves with legal and medical quacks--is displeasing to you.
Outcome-based litigation is not a good thing.
Excellent move. Should have done that when he first started sleeping around on her. How could a judge not grant a divorce to a woman whose husband lives with another woman and has two children with another woman. How in the world can he claim to be married to Schivo? In fact it seems to me , with common law, he could be charged with having two wives! Man I hope this gets the sob.
The second one is mine.
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