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TERRI SCHIAVO MARCH 2005 DAILIES Fla's Til of the Hun Sets March Date to Starve Terri
Terri's Fight, The Empire Journal, World Net Daily, Life News ^ | February 28, 2005 | floriduh voter

Posted on 02/28/2005 7:08:08 AM PST by floriduh voter

Terri's Freepers,

Judge George Greer denied Terri's parents' Motion for a Stay to protect their daughter's life while there are still pending issues in this LIFE AND DEATH MATTER. In addition the Department of Children and Family Services made a surprise visit to the court hearing the other day and asked Judge Greer if they could approach the bench. Judge Greer denied DCF the opportunity to speak. DCF asked for 60 days to conduct a complete investigation of allegations that have surfaced in the form of a Complaint to their agency.

What was set in motion instead? On Friday, February 25th, Judge Greer REFUSED TO issue another Stay because he was "not comfortable" issuing a say to protect a Ward of the State but instead "set a date certain" (on his calendar at least, not on mine) to BEGIN THE BARBARIC, ANTI-AMERICAN, STARVATION-DEHYDRATION SLOW MURDER OF TERRI.

Attorney Gibbs for Terri's parents held a press conference after J. Greer's order that was so tastefully written to indicate that "he was giving the Schindlers until March 18th so they could "prepare for Last Rites." Attorneys Gibbs called this ruling and prior rulings "Hitler-resque". Indeed.

If Judge Greer wasn't LEGALIZING EUTHANASIA in his courtroom, why any need for Last Rites? Greer's urgency to fulfill this killing places urgency on every one of us to lobby Governor Bush, Florida's House and Florida's Senate.

A Judge in America is ordering the manner of someone's death, a disabled woman who is healthy but needs rehabilitation.

Time is short so we don't really have time to get into Greer's mind to see why he is Florida's Til of the Hun.

What can we do?

1. LOBBY TO SAVE TERRI

2. HELP BUMP THIS THREAD.

3. POST ARTICLES YOU SEE ABOUT TERRI.

4. VISIT PINELLAS COUNTY FLORIDA AND VIGIL WITH US AT HOSPICE WOODSIDE.

5. VISIT TALLAHASSEE AND LOBBY IN THE HALLS OF THE LEGISLATURE.

6. HOLD A DEMONSTRATION AT THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION.

7. Join the Message Board that freepers started at the Crystal Cathedral/Hour of Power. TELL YOUR CHURCH ABOUT TERRI.

8. Tell your friends that Terri is alert and aware of her surroundings and to visit www.terrisfight.org to see her videos.

9. PETITIONS. We will gather current Petitions here for you. At this time, you can sign a SAVE TERRI PETITION AT www.renewamerica.us. THERE ARE ALSO IMPEACH GREER PETITIONS ABOUT.

Finally, the Pope has no Living Will. He will be SAFE as long as he stays away from George Greer's courtroom. The Pope is in our thoughts and prayers and he knows of Terri. He wants Terri to be freed from oppression and from a painless death by starvation-dehyration.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO EVERY DAY, THE PAY ISN'T VERY GOOD BUT THE FRINGE BENEFITS ARE THE GREATEST. You are Great Americans and liberty is Terri's and freedom from oppression. Freepers, that is the big payoff if we continue our daunting task.

Terri's family is grateful to you and all of your prayers are being heard by the Giver of Life.

This is Terri's Fight and the battle is enjoined. JOIN US TO SAVE TERRI FROM FORCES THAT HAVE BUT ONE GOAL THAT IS AGAINST EVERYTHING AMERICAN.

GUIDELINES: If you want to start frivolous discussions, please start your own thread in chat.

If you like something from www.theempirejournal.com, please do not post the entire article at Free Republic. Unless I hear otherwise, I believe that we are allowed to post the title and link. TEJ is a great team member of Terri's network. Thanks, TEJ for making a difference and for getting the truth out there.

IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR CONTACT INFO, IT IS ON THE WAY. Thanks, floriduh voter


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Florida
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To: Lovergirl
I want the world to see that blossom turn into the flower that we all know she will become. That's my hopes.

Oh that expresses my dream too!!!! I often imagine what it will be like when she comes out of that prison and into the light!! It won't take long with all of her family and friends, and yeah thousands PRAYING for her recovery . The determination that God has placed within all of us humans is incredible.Think of those who survived concentration camps and lived to share about it.!!!

7,801 posted on 03/16/2005 9:39:55 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: txrangerette
It'll be remarkably lucky if any law enforcement agency gets enough of a warning to save her. At the same time I'm encouraged by what's happening in the legislatures, I'm also more worried than ever about Terri's safety. Felos and Schiavo are acting like desperate men, and desperate men do desperate things, by stealth and in shadows.

The DCF should not wait another day. Terri should be removed from that hospice and taken into protective custody.

And we must all keep praying for her.

7,802 posted on 03/16/2005 9:41:37 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: Pegita

Amen!


7,803 posted on 03/16/2005 9:41:44 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: Lovergirl
I used to have a gyne named Dr. Bloodgood. How sick is that?

LOL!! My brother wanted to be a doctor but he never got the chance. Long story. Anyway, his initials are M.A.D. We teased him about being MAD Dr. His email was MADhouse but he had to change it because of strange emails. He never explained past that. ;)

7,804 posted on 03/16/2005 9:43:15 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Life support. canned, frozen or fresh, it's good for you!)
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To: pollywog
"so DCF DENIED??????????? GO JEB, GET TO THAT HOSPICE WITH THE FEDS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

DCF has law enforcement powers, right? I assume they do, since they can take people into custody. How can a court prohibit law enforcement from doing it's duty under the law? The only way I can think of is - illegally.

Here's how I see this mess -- There's evidence suggestive that illegalities might have been committed all down the line, but the judges have ignored them. Every one of them. Now, judges rule that Mikey *must* have her starved and dehydrated, even if he changes his mind and doesn't want to. Now *his* wishes are no longer a factor, even though his authority as guardian was primary to the case! The judges have even taken away Mikey's authority!

The next-to-last straw is the judges have crowned this whole mess by basically saying state law enforcement (DCF) has no jurisdiction in that county. The last straw is that now the police - the primary protectors of the community - are going along with it.

I'll call it the only way I can see it - this is a state of insurrection.

I'm pretty sure Jeb has some authority under the law to deal with insurrection. He should declare it ASAP, and do whatever needs to be done.
7,805 posted on 03/16/2005 9:43:36 PM PST by Wampus SC
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To: Wampus SC

YES. WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE. It doesn't matter to me who does it, just get her out of there ASAP.


7,806 posted on 03/16/2005 9:49:50 PM PST by Lovergirl (Terri..I don't personally know you but I love you. God please save Terri.)
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To: Canadian Outrage
"I'm sorry but it is HIGH TIME Governor BUSH GOT OFF HIS REAR END. HE COULD MAKE AN EXECUTIVE ORDER TODAY. I'm sick and tired of this PHONY HAND WRINGING AND PHONY COURT PROCEDURES THAT ARE CARRYING ON. HE MUST MOVE HIMSELF. The way I see it, it is going to take the MILITIA to back off these DETERMINED KILLERS."

Like I said earlier, Jeb should declare that Pinellas is in a state of insurrection, and take actions appropriate to putting down an insurrection.
7,807 posted on 03/16/2005 9:53:05 PM PST by Wampus SC
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To: Orlando

Very well said! I salute you for every word of it.


7,808 posted on 03/16/2005 9:57:00 PM PST by Wampus SC
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To: txrangerette

WOOHOO!

Praise God!


7,809 posted on 03/16/2005 10:01:07 PM PST by Wampus SC
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To: Lovergirl; All

7,810 posted on 03/16/2005 10:05:22 PM PST by Wampus SC
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To: Wampus SC

Of course he has authority to act.

He's just waiting to see if the legislature will carry the ball for him.

He's playing his cards close to the vest, in my opinion.


7,811 posted on 03/16/2005 10:07:44 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, Terri Schiavo will live.)
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To: Deo volente
He's playing his cards close to the vest, in my opinion.

And well he should. I understand his brother is a pretty good poker player, too. :)

7,812 posted on 03/16/2005 10:16:28 PM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Deo volente

ditto.


7,813 posted on 03/16/2005 10:26:14 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Freepertwo to Terri's Dad: "I told him God rarely telegraphs his punches....")
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Good night BUMP for Terri.

And now, a word from Der Kommandant:


7,814 posted on 03/16/2005 10:27:17 PM PST by Wampus SC
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To: Wampus SC; Pegita; Deo volente

DO I HEAR 50? FIFTY FROM THE U.S. HOUSE!
DO I HEAR 50 FROM THE FLEGISLATURE?
DO I HEAR 50 FROM THE U.S. SENATE?

7,815 posted on 03/16/2005 10:29:40 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Pegita

"And well he should. I understand his brother is a pretty good poker player, too. :)"

Good one.


7,816 posted on 03/16/2005 10:34:46 PM PST by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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To: All

GREER'S MINION - DR. RONALD CRANFORD

It is obvious that Greer-Felos-Schiavo colluded to bring about a predetermined outcome--the death of Terri.

When Dr. Gambone became useless by stating Terri was not PVS, who was their backup quarterback on the Death Squad?

Fr. Rob Johansen, writing for National Review, shines the light of truth on Dr. Ronald Cranford--Greer's minion.

Dr. Ronald Cranford is one of the most outspoken advocates of the “right to die” movement and of physician-assisted suicide in the U.S. today.

In published articles, including a 1997 op-ed in the Minneapolis–St. Paul Star Tribune, he has advocated the starvation of Alzheimer’s patients. He has described PVS patients as indistinguishable from other forms of animal life. He has said that PVS patients and others with brain impairment lack personhood and should have no constitutional rights. Perusing the case literature and articles surrounding the “right to die” and PVS, one will see Dr. Cranford’s name surface again and again. In almost every case, he is the one claiming PVS, and advocating the cessation of nutrition and hydration.

In the cases of Paul Brophy, Nancy Jobes, Nancy Cruzan, and Christine Busalucci, Cranford was the doctor behind the efforts to end their lives. Each of these people was brain-damaged but not dying; nonetheless, he advocated death for all, by dehydration and starvation. Nancy Cruzan did not even require a feeding tube: She could be spoon-fed. But Cranford advocated denying even that, saying that even spoon-feeding constituted “medical treatment” that could be licitly withdrawn.

BRING BACK THE HIPPOCRATIC OATH




7,817 posted on 03/16/2005 10:47:02 PM PST by texasstar
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To: Wampus SC

ABSOLUTELY. It's the RIGHT thing and the ONLY thing to do. The major question is WHY isn't he doing it? I don't think some people really want to know the answer. In my view, he's beholden to "somebody", somebody very POWERFUL. This is a TRAVESTY. But you know what, the Word of God declares that a people get the Government that they "deserve"!! Unless the PEOPLE have a sudden epiphany and rise up like I've said before, it's done. My Spirit will give me NO release that Terri is going to be saved. I assure you I have prayed, I have emailed, over and over. So far, the WICKEDNESS IN HIGH PLACES IS IN COMPLETE CONTROL. And I don't even see the willingness of the numbers of citizens that 'OUGHT to be willing to DO WHAT IS NECESSARY CIVIILLAY DISOBEY. A REVOLT!! If I sound like a rebel, I guess it's because I am against this IN YOUR FACE MURDER. You sow to the wind, you will reap the whirlwind. The doors to wholescale killing of inconvenient, ALTHOUGH INNOCENT, people is hours from being opened wide.


7,818 posted on 03/16/2005 10:52:30 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South !)
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To: Canadian Outrage

A Revolt is what's needed is what I meant to say. I know this will NOT sit well with many. However, be that as it may, One of anyone's family here, under the right circumstances, could be another Terri. I'll be very happy to WRONG. I'll eat the crow, feathers and all.


7,819 posted on 03/16/2005 10:56:48 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South !)
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To: texasstar

This has been posted before, but in light of your post....

From FoxNews Channel - "The O'Reilly Factor" - Wednesday, 05 nov 2003

O'Reilly: The Back of the Book segment tonight, the parents of Terri Schiavo are hoping for a miracle. Their daugter has been in a vegetative state for 13 years, as you know... Ms. Schiavo's husband wants her to die, and so do many in the state of Florida.

But listen to THIS, In 1995, Kate Adamson was in a similar position. She was in a vegetative state after suffering a stroke. For almost 70 days, she was almost TOTALLY unresponsive. Doctors finally PULLED her feeding tube. And for 8 days, she was dying.

Then, Ms. Adamson began responding on her OWN. Doctors quickly put the feeding tube back in, and she recovered. Joining us now from Los Angeles, is Kate Adamson, and her husband Steven Klugman. Ms Adamson has written a book called "Kate's Journey - Triumph Over Adversity".

O'Reilly: So, ahh, in the Schiavo case, Ms. Adamson, you must have VERY strong feelings about that?

Adamson: I do. I have a HUGE perspective about what Terri is going through.

O'Reilly: What would that be?

Adamson: Well especially after having gone thru this myself, and the doctors assuming I was in a vegetative state, ahh when in fact I was TOTALLY aware of what was going on around me.

O'Reilly: Could you hear? Could you hear people, and see...

Adamson: I could hear, and see everything going on around me, and I had NO way to commmunicate with anyone.

O'Reilly: So you were like, paralized in every way, but you could HEAR the words, you KNEW when your husband was in the room when he was there, and all of that?

Adamson: Exactly. I KNEW what I wanted to say, ahh, I was completely PARALIZED. I had NO way of communicating at all.

O'Reilly: This is amazing. Its like an Edgar Allen Poe story...
So when they took the feeding tube out, what went thru your mind?

Adamson: When the feeding tube was turned off for eight days, ahh I was... thought I was going insane. I was screaming out, "Don't you know, I NEED to EAT!".

Adamson: And even though, until that point, I had been having a bagful of Ensure as my nourishment that was going thru the feeding tube, at that point, it sounded pretty good. Ahh, I just wanted something, ahh the fact that I had nothing, the hunger pains overrode EVERY thought I had.

O'Reilly: So you were feeling PAIN? when they removed your tube?

Adamson: Oh, ABSOLUTELY. Absolutely... To say that, ahh, especially when Michael on national TV had mentioned last week, that its a pretty painless thing to have a feeding tube removed... Its the EXACT OPPOSITE. It was SHEER torture, Bill. Sheer torture... and then having it ripped out.

O'Reilly: Its just amazing. Alright, how did you come OUT of this? How did the doctors know to put the tube back in?

Adamson: Well first of all having Stephen as a strong advocate. Ahh, and not only being an attorney, but yelling and screaming and INSISTING... insisting that they do that.

O'Reilly: Alright but, umm so your husband, an attorney, Steven, insisted and you, what did you do? get a court order counselor, to get the tube back into your wife's system?

husband: I threatened to sue the whole world, and I told them their best course was to ahh, try to save her, and maybe they wouldn't get sued. So they FINALLY decided that was the way to-

O'Reilly: Ok, so they finally listened to you after eight days, they put the tube back, and how long then did it take for you to come out of the vegetative state?

Adamson: Well it was a matter of time, and of course when you're in that position, I had no conception of time at all. I wasn't able to start eating food again. I had to start on pureed food, and still had the tube turned ON, because of my weight loss.

husband: There was a good week to two weeks where she was aware, she WAS communicating, and I couldn't get ANYONE to believe me. Just like the [Terri's]family...

O'Reilly: How did you know? ... How did you know?

husband: Because I would... I'd ask her to blink once if she could understand me, and she would.

O'Reilly: Whoa, well thats pretty OBVIOUS, a doctor comes in and you do the demonstration?...

husband: The doctors... well, she would be so WEAK, after blinking once or twice, she couldn't do it again for an hour or more.

O'Reilly: I see...

husband: These people are SO weak...

Adamson: You know Bill, I had to BLINK every ahh, thats how I COMMUNICATED... was blinking.

O'Reilly: But how long did it TAKE you, once they re-inserted the ahh, feeding tube into you, Kate, were you able to convince the doctors you were aware?

Adamson: Well, I couldn't convince the doctors myself, I couldn't speak. I had NO ability... so Stephen had to be my advocate.

O'Reilly: Ok, but how long did it TAKE? Mr. Klugman, how long did it take?

husband: Two to three weeks.

O'Reilly: Ok, So two to three weeks, she came BACK on the feeding, and then she came OUT of the vegetative state?

husband: She was never IN a vegetative state. That was just their...

O'Reilly: Ok, Ok, Ok, but she came.. when did she get COGNIZANT that everybody knew she was funct...

husband: She was... she was probably ALWAYS cognizant. She was in fact OPERATED on at one point, and they treated her as though she was a vegetable, and didn't give her enough anesthetic, and she FELT the entire operation.

O'Reilly: Allright, I'm going to try one MORE time... When did you come OUT of it so that you could SPEAK and all of that? How long was it?

Adamson: Well it wasn't until I was in ACUTE REHAB for the three MONTHS, and during that whole process-

O'Reilly: [interrupting] THREE MONTHS, allright then.

Adamson: In fact, I was on a week to week basis with... in terms of how I was recovering, whether the insurance company would still keep me in there.

O'Reilly: Well, its an AMAZING, AMAZING story, and ahh, nobody can say whether the Schiavo case would BE like- that way... But to hear this, makes everybody think. Thank you, both of you, for coming on the Factor.
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Statement made by Florida's Judge Greer after Terri's brother and sister tried to have her fed orally in previous starvation attempt:

"I don't want anyone trying to feed that girl.
The law of the case is that she is going to die."
Judge Greer re:Terri Schiavo. Pray4Terri.


7,820 posted on 03/16/2005 11:03:36 PM PST by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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