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Posted on 02/28/2005 7:08:08 AM PST by floriduh voter
Terri's Freepers,
Judge George Greer denied Terri's parents' Motion for a Stay to protect their daughter's life while there are still pending issues in this LIFE AND DEATH MATTER. In addition the Department of Children and Family Services made a surprise visit to the court hearing the other day and asked Judge Greer if they could approach the bench. Judge Greer denied DCF the opportunity to speak. DCF asked for 60 days to conduct a complete investigation of allegations that have surfaced in the form of a Complaint to their agency.
What was set in motion instead? On Friday, February 25th, Judge Greer REFUSED TO issue another Stay because he was "not comfortable" issuing a say to protect a Ward of the State but instead "set a date certain" (on his calendar at least, not on mine) to BEGIN THE BARBARIC, ANTI-AMERICAN, STARVATION-DEHYDRATION SLOW MURDER OF TERRI.
Attorney Gibbs for Terri's parents held a press conference after J. Greer's order that was so tastefully written to indicate that "he was giving the Schindlers until March 18th so they could "prepare for Last Rites." Attorneys Gibbs called this ruling and prior rulings "Hitler-resque". Indeed.
If Judge Greer wasn't LEGALIZING EUTHANASIA in his courtroom, why any need for Last Rites? Greer's urgency to fulfill this killing places urgency on every one of us to lobby Governor Bush, Florida's House and Florida's Senate.
A Judge in America is ordering the manner of someone's death, a disabled woman who is healthy but needs rehabilitation.
Time is short so we don't really have time to get into Greer's mind to see why he is Florida's Til of the Hun.
What can we do?
1. LOBBY TO SAVE TERRI
2. HELP BUMP THIS THREAD.
3. POST ARTICLES YOU SEE ABOUT TERRI.
4. VISIT PINELLAS COUNTY FLORIDA AND VIGIL WITH US AT HOSPICE WOODSIDE.
5. VISIT TALLAHASSEE AND LOBBY IN THE HALLS OF THE LEGISLATURE.
6. HOLD A DEMONSTRATION AT THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION.
7. Join the Message Board that freepers started at the Crystal Cathedral/Hour of Power. TELL YOUR CHURCH ABOUT TERRI.
8. Tell your friends that Terri is alert and aware of her surroundings and to visit www.terrisfight.org to see her videos.
9. PETITIONS. We will gather current Petitions here for you. At this time, you can sign a SAVE TERRI PETITION AT www.renewamerica.us. THERE ARE ALSO IMPEACH GREER PETITIONS ABOUT.
Finally, the Pope has no Living Will. He will be SAFE as long as he stays away from George Greer's courtroom. The Pope is in our thoughts and prayers and he knows of Terri. He wants Terri to be freed from oppression and from a painless death by starvation-dehyration.
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO EVERY DAY, THE PAY ISN'T VERY GOOD BUT THE FRINGE BENEFITS ARE THE GREATEST. You are Great Americans and liberty is Terri's and freedom from oppression. Freepers, that is the big payoff if we continue our daunting task.
Terri's family is grateful to you and all of your prayers are being heard by the Giver of Life.
This is Terri's Fight and the battle is enjoined. JOIN US TO SAVE TERRI FROM FORCES THAT HAVE BUT ONE GOAL THAT IS AGAINST EVERYTHING AMERICAN.
GUIDELINES: If you want to start frivolous discussions, please start your own thread in chat.
If you like something from www.theempirejournal.com, please do not post the entire article at Free Republic. Unless I hear otherwise, I believe that we are allowed to post the title and link. TEJ is a great team member of Terri's network. Thanks, TEJ for making a difference and for getting the truth out there.
IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR CONTACT INFO, IT IS ON THE WAY. Thanks, floriduh voter
It just ended Pegita.......and for the life of me I couldn't follow where it lead. I think they passed the bill out of committee and will send it to the floor tomorrow.
Is this the FULL House and did they pass the bill for Terri??
BUMP!
Great post about Hawking!
I actually ran into him in Oxford once upon a time.
We were walking away from a bookstore, and we saw approaching us a man in a wheelchair with his nurse.
It was an amazing moment when we saw who it was, we looked in his eyes with awe, as he looked into ours. Just the look that passed between him and us was remarkable.
Really unforgettable to see him.
Is it over? They are not talking about Terri.
I got word from another thread that there was a committe discussing the bill. Sure enough Sennsenberger(sp?) Weldon and a committee were discussing it. Then they voted and she said that the " ys" have it. That was that...!!! I am searching around again for that thread.
it is over now. I am looking for what happened and the decision they came to. I think that they are sending it onto the floor tomorrow, at least that is what I THOUGHT they said.
There was some debate, pro and con. Then a voice vote, and the bill was passed.
http://www.cspan.org/watch/
Experiencing problems with streaming video? >>
I thought it was already in the committee yesterday. I'm so confused.
I'm sure.
will they re-air it later tonight?
Thank you mickie.
"Took just 28 minutes to do the actual e-mailing to all 19!!
I'd like to ask Pegita to compose a nice neat prayer that they will support the Starvation and Dehydration of Persons with Disabilities Act. Then with her consent I'll send it to all 19 right away!"
WTG and great idea!
In Schiavo Case, Notoriety Finds Unlikely Judge
By ABBY GOODNOUGH
Published: March 17, 2005 NEW YORK TIMES
IAMI, March 16 - For most of his career, Judge George W. Greer presided over mundane local disputes that drew little notice outside Pinellas County or even his courtroom. People who know him say he considers himself a "compassionate conservative," a man whose religious faith is as dear to him as his reputation as a legal scholar.
For the past seven years, though, Judge Greer, of Circuit Court, has been at the center of one of the nation's most contentious civil cases, the battle over whether to withdraw the feeding tube of a critically brain-damaged woman, Terri Schiavo. The case has made him a target of religious conservatives and others who object to ending any life prematurely. He resigned from his Southern Baptist church and lately travels under heavy police protection, not even going to lunch unaccompanied.
Over the years, the case has traveled all the way to the United States Supreme Court. Yet it always returns to Judge Greer, 63, who most recently ordered that Mrs. Schiavo's feeding tube be removed on Friday. His finding that Mrs. Schiavo would rather die than be kept alive artificially, based on testimony from her husband, Michael, has prompted protests around the world.
Opponents have sent hundreds of letters and e-mail messages to the judge, picketed his courthouse in Clearwater, and, in a few cases, friends said, threatened his life. He stopped attending his longtime church, Calvary Baptist in Clearwater, in 2003 after it sent a publication to the congregation sharply criticizing him.
Now, as protesters descend on Pinellas County, where Mrs. Schiavo is in a suburban hospice, and Tallahassee, where they are lobbying Gov. Jeb Bush and the Legislature, Judge Greer's friends say he remains resolute. Yet they also say stress is afflicting the judge and his family, especially after the recent killings of a state judge in Atlanta and a federal judge's husband and mother in Chicago.
Judge Greer, a former Pinellas County commissioner who was elected to the Sixth Circuit Court in 1992, declined to be interviewed, and neither the court nor the county sheriff's office would discuss his security arrangements. But several of his friends said that in recent weeks, at least two sheriff's deputies have escorted him almost everywhere.
"It's killing me to watch him struggle with this," said Mary Repper, a retired political consultant who worked on several of Judge Greer's campaigns. "Armed guards with him all the time. People threatening to kill him and claiming it has something to do with the right to life - explain that, will you? I know he's concerned about his family and his wife, because it has gotten so ugly."
Judge Greer was born in Brooklyn but grew up in Dunedin, a small Pinellas County town on the Gulf of Mexico. He stayed in Florida for college and law school, and returned to the Tampa area to practice law. He divorced and remarried, and has two adult sons and a Yorkshire terrier that friends said he dotes on. He won a seat on the Pinellas County Commission in 1984 and spent the next eight years learning how to weather political maelstroms.
"He always voted the way he sincerely believed to be right," Ms. Repper said, "regardless of how many people were standing in front of him screaming and carrying on."
Judge Greer, whose eyesight is so poor that he does not drive, has a soft voice and a patient manner in the courtroom. In his order that Mrs. Schiavo's feeding tube be removed, he politely cited the "excellent argument" of both sides' lawyers, even as he wrote, "The court is no longer comfortable granting stays simply upon the filings of new motions and petitions since there will always be 'new' issues that can be pled."
The case, Schindler v. Schiavo, landed on his desk in 1998. Michael Schiavo wanted to remove the feeding tube, eight years after his wife suffered extensive brain damage when her heart briefly stopped, possibly due to a potassium deficiency.
But Mrs. Schiavo's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler, immediately challenged him. They say that Mrs. Schiavo, 41, is conscious and responds to them, and that she could improve with therapy. After a trial in 2000, Judge Greer found there was clear and convincing evidence that Mrs. Schiavo would never recover and would not want to be kept alive.
But the battle has not ceased, and the case has often dominated Judge Greer's calendar. He ordered Mrs. Schiavo's feeding tube removed twice in the past, only to see it replaced within days. The last time, in October 2003, the Legislature enacted a law that authorized Governor Bush to order the tube reinserted. Judge Greer declared the law unconstitutional, and although higher courts backed him, appeals delayed any action for 17 months.
Now Mr. Bush and the Legislature are rushing to agree on a bill that would outlaw the withholding of food and water from certain people in a persistent vegetative state, including Mrs. Schiavo.
Edward Armstrong, a Clearwater lawyer who describes Judge Greer as a mentor, said the judge was probably frustrated by the intervention of Florida's executive and legislative branches, even though he shared many of their values.
"I would speculate that from time to time he is disappointed in certain events," Mr. Armstrong said, "but he is able to shrug his shoulders and move on."
Harder to bear, other friends said, have been the hate mail and fliers like the one that people who contributed to his 2004 re-election campaign received this week, saying, "Please help stop a judicial murderer!" A petition to impeach Judge Greer, circulated online by religious groups, has nearly 7,000 signatures.
Cheryl Ford, a nurse who heads the National Fight for Terri Action Volunteer Group in Tampa, dismissed the possibility of violence against the judge, saying: "I haven't heard one person say they wanted to do anything violent. The people here are not people who would commit violence. The only ones committing violence are Judge Greer and Michael Schiavo, who are murdering Terri by removing her feeding tube."
Judge Greer could have avoided the Schiavo case by retiring early, friends said, but instead he ran in 2004 for another six-year term, facing an opponent for the first time in his judicial career but easily winning. Lawyers for the Schindlers have asked him to recuse himself on several occasions.
"A lesser person would have stepped back from this a long time ago and kicked it to another judge," Mr. Armstrong said. "I know it's hard on him, but he will not shirk his responsibility."
I will. An OB/Gyn named Seymour Weiner. He's now retired. It was that or be sued.
Check your FM, Sun ... sent to curiousmind by mistake ...
AWWW!! Poor Judge Greer. People are being mean to him. He's a jerk..
I was almost in bed when I thought to check FR one more time. And saw that the Terri bill was being debated by the House.
I missed Sheila Jackson Lee....thank Heaven. It was over so quick. Just a voice vote. But before that one Rep was so mad. He was screaming that the bill wasn't on the docket. It was brought up to the floor without any notice. In the middle of the night.....Blah, blah, blah!
Anyway it passed. (I'm not even sure what was in the Bill)
Please spread this as far and wide as possible (ping your lists, post to your State locales [don't know how, ask someone], send to people both on and off freep, post a new thread, post to existing threads, etc. Thanks:
From: Eleanor
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 10:00 AM
To: Subject: Terri: Let's ask the Sheriff to do his duty!
Hi -
Just listening to Officer Jack McLamb's show here and he had some very timely advice for pressuring local officials to intervene and save Terri. KEEP READING....PLEASE
The key point that authorizes and REQUIRES local officials to stop Terri's March 18 execution is that regardless of what judge greer says, Terri is NOT VEGETATIVE. That makes killing her a felony.
Here is a fax I sent to Sheriff James Coats and I URGE EVERYONE TO SEND A SIMILAR ONE, or call and convey the same information by telephone. Sheriff Coats' contact info, furnished by officer McLamb, is:
Voice: 1-727-582-6204;
Fax: 1-727-582-6459
Non-Emergency: 727-582-6200;
Crimes Against Persons 727-582-6385
Homicide: 727-582-6385
Criminal Enterprise: 727-582-6126
Internal Affairs: 727-582-6223
Crime Stoppers TipLine: 800-873-8477 Get Comp# and follow up Victim Advocate: 727-582-6259
TIME is of the ESSENCE!
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March 12, 2005
ATTN: SHERIFF JAMES COATS
RE: Court order to kill Terri Schiavo by denial of water (food irrelevant)
Sheriff Coats:
This is to remind you that you are the senior law enforcement officer in your jurisdiction. The office of Sheriff was established that way so as to act on behalf of the PEOPLE, as opposed to government.
In the matter of the court ordered execution of Terri Schiavo on Friday, March 18, 2005, you have the solemn duty to be certain that is a LEGAL order.
In Terri's case, under Florida statutes, witholding water (and food) from a conscious, non-vegetative disabled person is a FELONY. Here are the words of Governor Jeb Bush from his amicus brief on behalf of Terri in October, 2003:
"The Governor submits this memorandum to ensure that the Court consider the critical distinction between removing artificial life support and the deliberate killing of a human being by starvation and dehydration.
"These are two different actions. The first is performed according to state law and is allowed under Florida's constitutional right to privacy.
"The second is prohibited by the right to life enshrined in the Florida and federal Constitutions. . ."
"As Terri's death may be proximately caused not by the removal of life-prolonging procedures, but the denial of oral sustenance, forbidding the provision of oral sustenance would create an unnecessary conflict with Florida statutory law..."
". . . natural oral feeding is not a life-prolonging procedure under Florida law.
"An incapacitated person retains certain enumerated rights under Section 744.3215, Florida Statutes (2003).
"That section clearly and separately delineates which rights are retained by the ward [Terri] (Section 744.3215(1));
"which rights may be removed by the court (Section 744.3215(4));
"which rights may be delegated to the guardian (Section 744.3215(3)); and "which rights the guardian may not exercise without first obtaining specific authority from the court (Section 744.325(4))."
That text and more from the amicus brief may be quickly viewed at this web site:
http://www.sweetliberty.org/bulletins/terri/jeb.htm
Since Terri is NOT in a "permanent vegetative state", CLEARLY the law is about to be broken regardless of what a judge or appeals board says. They cannot nullify the law.
Sheriff Coats, THE WHOLE WORLD is watching, and the whole
world has seen the video clips of a very responsive Terri Schiavo. If Judge Greer's court order makes it impossible for you to view those clips locally, you can see them here:
http://www.raven1.net/terrivids.htm
It is obvious that you and the Florida Department of Children and Families have more than enough justification to act to put Terri under their custody while the many allegations of wrongdoing by Terri's husband Michael Schiavo are investigated. DCF has asked for a very reasonable period of 60 days to delay Terri's execution, and Judge Greer turned them down.
YOU **CAN** INTERVENE, and in fact, being a Sheriff, you are REQUIRED to intervene.
Don't allow your jurisdiction to be known best for torturing the disabled to death, Sheriff Coats. Think about how this will play out in your conscience for the rest of your life. You are in the unique position of exercising your duty and becoming a hero, or turning away and becoming a part murderer.
Eleanor White
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Take actions for Terri and make phone calls, faxes, and send e-mails. Time is running out (March 18, 1PM):
http://tekgnosis.typepad.com
Also:
FL Senators that might go either way!
Nancy Argenziano (R)
argenziano.nancy.web@flsenate.gov
(850) 487-5017
Rm 311
"Mike" Michael S. Bennett (R)
bennett.mike.web@flsenate.gov
(850) 487-5078
Rm 216 (senate office building)
She might be willing? Maybe
Larcenia J. Bullard (D)
bullard.larcenia.web@flsenate.gov
(850) 487-5127
Rm 218
Lisa Carlton (R)
carlton.lisa.web@flsenate.gov
(850) 4875081
Rm 412
Alex Diaz de la Portilla
portilla.alex.web@flsenate.gov
(850) 487-5109
Rm 314
Paula Dockery
dockery.paula.web@flsenate.gov
(850) 487-5040
Rm 326
Friend of Jim King probably will go the same way
Dennis L. Jones
jones.dennis.web@flsenate.gov
(850) 487-5065
Rm 222
"King" James E. King
king.james.web@flsenate.gov
(850) 487-5368
Rm 416
Evelyn J. Lynn
lynn.evelyn.web@flsenate.gov
(850) 487-5033
Rm 324
Burt L. Saunders
saunders.burt.web@flsenate.gov
(850) 487-5124
Rm 418
Alex J. Villalobos
villalobos.alex.web@flsenate.gov
(850) 487-5130
Rm 330
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