TERRI SCHIAVO MARCH 2005 DAILIES Fla's Til of the Hun Sets March Date to Starve Terri

Judge George Greer denied Terri's parents' Motion for a Stay to protect their daughter's life while there are still pending issues in this LIFE AND DEATH MATTER. In addition the Department of Children and Family Services made a surprise visit to the court hearing the other day and asked Judge Greer if they could approach the bench. Judge Greer denied DCF the opportunity to speak. DCF asked for 60 days to conduct a complete investigation of allegations that have surfaced in the form of a Complaint to their agency.

What was set in motion instead? On Friday, February 25th, Judge Greer REFUSED TO issue another Stay because he was "not comfortable" issuing a say to protect a Ward of the State but instead "set a date certain" (on his calendar at least, not on mine) to BEGIN THE BARBARIC, ANTI-AMERICAN, STARVATION-DEHYDRATION SLOW MURDER OF TERRI.

Attorney Gibbs for Terri's parents held a press conference after J. Greer's order that was so tastefully written to indicate that "he was giving the Schindlers until March 18th so they could "prepare for Last Rites." Attorneys Gibbs called this ruling and prior rulings "Hitler-resque". Indeed.

If Judge Greer wasn't LEGALIZING EUTHANASIA in his courtroom, why any need for Last Rites? Greer's urgency to fulfill this killing places urgency on every one of us to lobby Governor Bush, Florida's House and Florida's Senate.

A Judge in America is ordering the manner of someone's death, a disabled woman who is healthy but needs rehabilitation.

Time is short so we don't really have time to get into Greer's mind to see why he is Florida's Til of the Hun.

7. Join the Message Board that freepers started at the Crystal Cathedral/Hour of Power. TELL YOUR CHURCH ABOUT TERRI.

8. Tell your friends that Terri is alert and aware of her surroundings and to visit www.terrisfight.org to see her videos.

9. PETITIONS. We will gather current Petitions here for you. At this time, you can sign a SAVE TERRI PETITION AT www.renewamerica.us. THERE ARE ALSO IMPEACH GREER PETITIONS ABOUT.

Finally, the Pope has no Living Will. He will be SAFE as long as he stays away from George Greer's courtroom. The Pope is in our thoughts and prayers and he knows of Terri. He wants Terri to be freed from oppression and from a painless death by starvation-dehyration.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO EVERY DAY, THE PAY ISN'T VERY GOOD BUT THE FRINGE BENEFITS ARE THE GREATEST. You are Great Americans and liberty is Terri's and freedom from oppression. Freepers, that is the big payoff if we continue our daunting task.

Terri's family is grateful to you and all of your prayers are being heard by the Giver of Life.

This is Terri's Fight and the battle is enjoined. JOIN US TO SAVE TERRI FROM FORCES THAT HAVE BUT ONE GOAL THAT IS AGAINST EVERYTHING AMERICAN.

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I've really tried not to think about this case too much, because it is painful. This set of pictures is compelling, until you notice that they are from 2002. What is her condition today, 3/5/2005? Neil Boortz had quite a rant going for the "other side" on his Friday program. Boortz stated that she was not responsive, that the allegations of abuse by the husband had been investigated and dismissed, that her condition was brought on by an eating disorder, and that her husband was "not "trying to kill her 'for the money' - because the money has been used up." Neil painted Terri's husband a hero for continuing to stick around and fight for Terri's "right to die."

If she is indeed still as responsive as shown in these photos, what prevents her from taking in at least liquid nourishment? I remember Karen Ann Quinlan almost 30 years ago... When they removed Karen Ann's breathing tubes, remarkably she lived on several more years anyway. I worked with mentally retarded adults for 25 years, and her ability to respond to commands to focus would indicate at least a very "profound" functioning level. Perhaps when they remove the feeding tube, they should try getting her to take a bottle. If she choked, it would at least be a quicker death than starving over days/weeks. People typically would die of dehydration in a matter of days. Starvation if someone were still getting liquid could take weeks.

"What is her condition today, 3/5/2005?":

Attorney David Gibbs visited Terri last night (2/24/05) with the dad, Bob Schindler. Cheryl Ford wrote the following:

Terri goes Goo~Goo eyes over Attorney Gibbs

By Cheryl Ford RN
February 25, 2005
Last night at hospice Terri's father, Robert Schindler and Attorney Gibbs visited with Terri. Mr. Schindler was the first to enter Terri's room, approaching Terri on her right. As always, Terri was delighted to see her Dad until Mr. Schindler announced that Mr. Gibbs was with him.
Mr. Gibbs moved closer to Terri's left greeting her with, "Hello Terri."
Terri, hearing Mr. Gibb's deep voice immediately turned to her left to look at him. Terri's Dad stated that once she eyed Mr. Gibbs that was the end of his visit with her because she was no longer interested in anything he had to say to her..."she was goo-goo eyes over Attorney Gibbs."
Mr. Schindler then exclaimed, "Terri, Terri, look at me. I've come here to see you as well and now you cannot take your eyes off of Attorney Gibbs, what am I chopped liver?" Terri responded with laughter to her father's comment but her eyes remained focused on Mr. Gibbs.
Bob said,"Well, Cheryl that's the last time I will be taking Mr. Gibbs along with me since my daughter did not hear anything I had to say once he had her attention."

Bob Schindler confirmed to me, and then retold this account at the Schindlers 2/28/05 Jacksonville, FL press conference.

With all the media present, no one called him a liar or expressed disbelief.

Where the road ends
Academy Award-winning films and the much discussed Schiavo case bring the heavy and emotional topics of treating terminally ill, whether to stay on life support and euthanasia to the forefront

By Magin McKenna
mmckenna@thenewsstar.com

When Elisabeth Grant-Gibson recalls her late mother's refusal to allow a surgeon to amputate a gangrene-infected foot, she scales a thorny resolution that affects countless relatives of the terminally ill.

"It's a path to death," said Grant-Gibson, of Monroe. "And you know you are embarking on it."

The moment Grant-Gibson's mother declined treatment, she accepted her life's end.

While many families prickle with pain and frustration when a loved one refuses treatment for a terminal illness, "Million Dollar Baby" contemplates a rarer end-of-life issue: euthanasia.

The film, in its first weekend in Monroe, asks profound questions about a person's right to choose death.

Who may end a life? And when is it morally justified to do so?

As it considers Oregon's Death with Dignity Act later this fall, the U.S. Supreme Court will ponder those same questions on the issue of physician-assisted suicide. The court earlier this year refused to hear arguments on a Florida law to keep a brain damaged woman, Terri Schiavo, on life support.

But there are extreme moral differences between a dying person refusing treatment for a terminal illness, euthanasia and physician-assisted suicide, Grant-Gibson said.

Still there is an achingly similar end, she added: "All roads lead to death.

"What is very different is when the person is conscious, aware and making the decision, it's much easier on the family," she said. "When the person is unconscious, it's constant second guessing."

In its treatment of euthanasia, the Academy Award-winning "Million Dollar Baby" has drawn the ire of Catholic groups, and some criticism from the Center for Bioethics and Human Dignity in Chicago, Ill., which posted an unfavorable review on its Web site.

Without giving the film's ending away, a hospitalized character asks to be euthanized. But the same character accepts treatment that prolongs life — which would not necessarily happen in reality.

"The patient has the ability to refuse treatment," said the Rev. Charles Barley, chaplain at Glenwood Regional Medical Center in West Monroe and co-chair of the hospital's ethics committee.

"That's the patient's right," he said.

The Bible, too, asks questions about morally permissible killings, the most notorious being Abraham's near-sacrifice of his only son, Isaac.

While the binding of Isaac is not literally the same as euthanasia, the themes are resurfacing in popular television, film and culture, said Bob Thompson, director of the Center for the Study of Popular Television at Syracuse University.

"The 21century is going to be so much about biotechnological questions that back right smack up against moral and ethical issues," Thompson said. "When 'Million Dollar Baby,' with a theme of euthanasia, ends up in best picture, it's evidence that these films have the ability to emerge in the most mainstream of places."

Last week "The Sea Inside," a film that examines a quadriplegic's right to die, won best foreign film at the Academy Awards. Add that to "Million Dollar Baby," heated debates in Florida and Oregon and recent legislation in Europe that legalizes euthanasia in certain circumstances. The result brings a new dilemma to medicine, said Dr. Samuel Hensley a fellow at the Center for Bioethics and Human Dignity.

When doctors can't save dying people, should patients have the option of asking doctors to help them die?

"Doctors should never be put in the position of deciding between life and death," said Hensley, a physician at Mississippi Baptist Hospital in Jackson, Miss. "The benefit is that we can look at what's happening in the Netherlands and Belgium, where euthanasia is legal, and turn to people regardless of their religious persuasion and say, 'Is this the kind of country you want to live in?'"

But Hensley said it is common for doctors to remove patients from life support when a patient has requested it. In those situations, doctors are not deciding death, he said.

"That's removing extraneous life support that the patient doesn't want and leaving it in God's hands," Hensley said.

Families can avoid emotional trauma by encouraging patients to write specific living wills that detail end-of-life desires, he suggested.

Also common is for doctors to withhold food and hydration from a dying patient, said Dr. Charles Mason, medical director for Hospice Care of Louisiana. In those cases, water and food are hurting the body, he said.

Many times doctors administrate narcotics, such as morphine, to alleviate extreme pain in the terminally ill, Mason said.

"We don't do anything with the intention of purposely causing death," he said. "When I give medicines like morphine, I give them for the purpose of treating a symptom that's causing distress."

Withholding intravenous fluids from terminally ill patients can hasten death, but Mason said it does not ultimately cause death.

"Cause of death to me is still terminal illness," he said. "These are people that, no matter what, are going to die."

Recently the issue of withholding food and hydration raised concerns for the Roman Catholic Church. Pope John Paul II stated a church position in May 2004 that called intravenous nourishment morally obligatory as a natural means of preserving life.

The Catholic Church allows for a dying patient to be removed from life support when life is sustained artificially, said the Rev. Mike Haney of St. Paschal Catholic Church in West Monroe.

Such cases, he said, allow room for divine intervention.

"A person could start breathing when a ventilator is removed," Haney said. "We don't know when termination of life is going to come, and that determination should come from God."

Originally published March 5, 2005

http://www.thenewsstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050305/LIFESTYLE/503050301/1024

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