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Posted on 02/28/2005 7:08:08 AM PST by floriduh voter
Terri's Freepers,
Judge George Greer denied Terri's parents' Motion for a Stay to protect their daughter's life while there are still pending issues in this LIFE AND DEATH MATTER. In addition the Department of Children and Family Services made a surprise visit to the court hearing the other day and asked Judge Greer if they could approach the bench. Judge Greer denied DCF the opportunity to speak. DCF asked for 60 days to conduct a complete investigation of allegations that have surfaced in the form of a Complaint to their agency.
What was set in motion instead? On Friday, February 25th, Judge Greer REFUSED TO issue another Stay because he was "not comfortable" issuing a say to protect a Ward of the State but instead "set a date certain" (on his calendar at least, not on mine) to BEGIN THE BARBARIC, ANTI-AMERICAN, STARVATION-DEHYDRATION SLOW MURDER OF TERRI.
Attorney Gibbs for Terri's parents held a press conference after J. Greer's order that was so tastefully written to indicate that "he was giving the Schindlers until March 18th so they could "prepare for Last Rites." Attorneys Gibbs called this ruling and prior rulings "Hitler-resque". Indeed.
If Judge Greer wasn't LEGALIZING EUTHANASIA in his courtroom, why any need for Last Rites? Greer's urgency to fulfill this killing places urgency on every one of us to lobby Governor Bush, Florida's House and Florida's Senate.
A Judge in America is ordering the manner of someone's death, a disabled woman who is healthy but needs rehabilitation.
Time is short so we don't really have time to get into Greer's mind to see why he is Florida's Til of the Hun.
What can we do?
1. LOBBY TO SAVE TERRI
2. HELP BUMP THIS THREAD.
3. POST ARTICLES YOU SEE ABOUT TERRI.
4. VISIT PINELLAS COUNTY FLORIDA AND VIGIL WITH US AT HOSPICE WOODSIDE.
5. VISIT TALLAHASSEE AND LOBBY IN THE HALLS OF THE LEGISLATURE.
6. HOLD A DEMONSTRATION AT THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION.
7. Join the Message Board that freepers started at the Crystal Cathedral/Hour of Power. TELL YOUR CHURCH ABOUT TERRI.
8. Tell your friends that Terri is alert and aware of her surroundings and to visit www.terrisfight.org to see her videos.
9. PETITIONS. We will gather current Petitions here for you. At this time, you can sign a SAVE TERRI PETITION AT www.renewamerica.us. THERE ARE ALSO IMPEACH GREER PETITIONS ABOUT.
Finally, the Pope has no Living Will. He will be SAFE as long as he stays away from George Greer's courtroom. The Pope is in our thoughts and prayers and he knows of Terri. He wants Terri to be freed from oppression and from a painless death by starvation-dehyration.
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO EVERY DAY, THE PAY ISN'T VERY GOOD BUT THE FRINGE BENEFITS ARE THE GREATEST. You are Great Americans and liberty is Terri's and freedom from oppression. Freepers, that is the big payoff if we continue our daunting task.
Terri's family is grateful to you and all of your prayers are being heard by the Giver of Life.
This is Terri's Fight and the battle is enjoined. JOIN US TO SAVE TERRI FROM FORCES THAT HAVE BUT ONE GOAL THAT IS AGAINST EVERYTHING AMERICAN.
GUIDELINES: If you want to start frivolous discussions, please start your own thread in chat.
If you like something from www.theempirejournal.com, please do not post the entire article at Free Republic. Unless I hear otherwise, I believe that we are allowed to post the title and link. TEJ is a great team member of Terri's network. Thanks, TEJ for making a difference and for getting the truth out there.
IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR CONTACT INFO, IT IS ON THE WAY. Thanks, floriduh voter
Jeb Bush said the other day "217,000 live births in Florida and 90,000 abortions in Fla." Florida has been part of a culture of death for awhile. Those are shocking statistics.
someone looking for Cheryl Ford was a troll.
Anyone know the results of today's hearing, or is it still ongoing?
pc93
I must say when they mentioned the 34 page detailed report and the fact that the Schindlers did not know who filed the report, YOu were the first person that came to my mind. Even if the hotline complaint they selected to act on is not yours, I'm sure that you have influenced their decision to act based on other complaints you filed.
You put words into action, Terri is lucky that you re on her side.
Pepper -
I've wondered why Terri's family doesn't sue for slander the media, Felos, HINO, and everyone else putting out false information ON PURPOSE. No matter how many times they are corrected, the media **intentionally** reports information that is just untrue. The whole point of slander is to intentionally harm someone and the media has done a great job of doing just that.
I posted this, this morning, but I thought I would repost this to on to this thread so you can see it if you haven't already since I dont' believe anyone got pinged for it
The e-mail to this guy is attached and since he so freely sent this out to followers I'm guessing he knew he was going to ahve lots of heat and e-mail back over it. I say Freep the guy! I got into it a bit with him this morning, but had to stop cause I got busy with my kids!
Here is the e-mail-
If this devotional is a blessing to you, maybe you have a friend or family
member that would like to start receiving this daily word. You can forward
this to them, and they can use the following link to subscribe.
www.liveprayer.com/signup.htm
DAILY DEVOTIONAL FRIDAY MARCH 4, 2005
(2 Corinthians 6:2)
*** Be part of "The 300" For details, go to: www.liveprayer.com/the300.htm
The REAL story of Terri Schiavo. This is a Devotional that I should have
written many months ago, I apologize. In a way, it has become a personal
test of my own commitment to the work God has called me to do and my
faithfulness to that work. I am well aware that I could easily write a
Devotional on this issue that 99% of those who read it would agree with and
stand and applaud every word. I am also well aware that if I write what the
Holy Spirit has led me to, many may be upset, primarily due to the
incredible amount of misinformation that has circulated in regard to this
tragic and emotionally charged situation. However, if I do not share with
you today what God has called me to write, then I have no business doing
what I do each day. So I will do my best to help you understand the true
facts of this tragedy, as well as the REAL story of Terri Schiavo.
While most of you have only been aware of this tragedy in the past year
since the national press picked up on it, the Terri Schiavo saga is over 15
years old. As someone who has followed it since day one due to the fact it
has unfolded in the same community Liveprayer is located, I want to give you
a timeline of what has happened in this case since the beginning. This will
be information that 99% of those who are reading this have never heard
before since you have been getting most of your information from the
multitude of organizations that found this to be a great "issue" to take on
once it became a national story, disseminating lots of false information as
facts, and of course, using it as a vehicle to raise money for their
organization.
The timeline of this story is far too extensive to put in this Devotional,
so here is a link that will take you from the birth of Terri right up to the
present day:
( http://www.miami.edu/ethics2/schiavo/timeline.htm ). Several things
need to be noted. First, the feeding tube that Terri currently has is
something she has had since the day of her tragic heart attack over 15 years
ago. Second, during the first 3 years after her heart attack, she was seen
by all of the best specialists in the world who did all they could to help
her. Sadly, not one was able to do anything for Terri and her physical
condition has never changed. Her husband and parents were actually working
together for the first three years following her heart attack. Their split
came from what else, the control of the money awarded from the malpractice
lawsuits that were filed on Terri's behalf.
Over the last 12 years that her husband and parents have been fighting over
her custody, every county, state, and federal court have all come to the
same two conclusions. First, that it was Terri's wish to never be kept
alive through artificial means, and second, that she is in a persistent
vegetative state (PVS). It has been the word of her husband Michael and
several of her friends that have led every court to rule Terri would have
never wanted to be kept alive the way she has been these past 15 years.
During these many years of litigation, Terri has been evaluated by numerous
independent, court-appointed doctors. Every single doctor, appointed by
every single court, has come to the same conclusion. It is the same
conclusion all of the specialists who treated her during those first 3 years
came to, that Terri is in a persistent vegetative state (PVS) and because of
the damage done to her brain after her heart attack, there was no hope of
that ever changing.
I am very aware of the video many have seen where she "appears" to be
cognitive. Those doctors I have spoken to have told me that she has
involuntary muscle reactions that give the appearance she is cognitive, but
that is impossible since there is no brain activity. Many people were
given false hope regarding Terri's condition due to the woman in Kansas that
recently came out of a coma after 20 years. There is no similarity between
this woman and Terri since Terri is NOT in a coma. The woman in Kansas was
brain damaged, Terri is brain dead.
Over the years, her husband Michael has become a lightning rod figure. Years
ago he made the ungodly choice to start living with a woman even though he
was still legally married to Terri, and they have had 2 children together.
Whatever settlement money that existed has been long gone, so Michael gains
nothing from Terri's death. Because of his immoral choices, he has been an
easy target, but one day it is God who will judge him for his actions
regarding Terri's wishes and care.
*I would suggest that if you are really interested in all of the facts and
details of the Terri Schiavo case, you go through the 15 years of archives
at the St. Petersburg Times as well as pull up the court documents from all
of the litigation that has taken place. Especially informative are the
court transcripts of the malpractice suits back in the early '90s. The
monetary awards were actually greatly reduced from the original amounts due
to the fact they found Terri was largely responsible for the condition she
was in due to her eating disorder.
The REAL story of Terri Schiavo is about 3 issues: eating disorders, Living
Wills, and playing "salvation roulette." One of the biggest problems we
have in our nation today, especially among young women, is eating disorders.
Sadly, we deal with it daily here at Liveprayer and I have done entire
Devotionals on this bondage so many young women, and some young men, are in
today. Terri had an eating disorder. Having been overweight throughout her
teen years, Terri became a slave to "binging and purging." This is where
you eat a large meal, and then go to the bathroom and force yourself to
vomit the food up. DOING THIS CAN KILL YOU!
The famous singer of so many great songs during the '70s, Karen Carpenter,
died from this. What happens to those who binge and purge is that it throws
off the electrolytes in your body which can cause your heart to stop
beating. You have a heart attack, not caused by clogged arteries which cuts
off the blood flowing to your heart, but from what amounts to an electric
shock. This is what happened to Terri on the night of February 25th, 1990
as she had a heart attack after vomiting, and literally layed dead for over
5 minutes on her bathroom floor. Most doctors say that after 3 minutes of
no oxygen, your brain dies. This is what happened to Terri, and I pray
today that every young woman reading this who is in bondage to an eating
disorder will wake up and realize that what you are dong can KILL YOU! The
time to fight this battle and get victory over it is NOW!
The second issue is having a Living Will. Even though every court has ruled
that Terri did not wish to be keep alive artificially, and yes, a feeding
tube is artificial, this is a great lesson on why everyone should have a
Living Will. It is a legal document that covers tragedies like Terri's, and
clearly spells out your wishes. I would encourage you to contact your
lawyer and draw one up. This way, YOUR TRUE WISHES are clearly spelled out,
and you do not have to put your family through the gut wrenching choices of
what to do if something like this ever happens to you.
The last issue I want to talk about is what I call "salvation roulette." I
wish I had $1 for every person I talk to that tells me they will think about
getting saved, they aren't ready but will think about it. I also get tons
of people that tell me they know Jesus is the only way, and before they die
they will get saved. Please, listen to me right now. The Bible says that
TODAY is the day of salvation. The Bible teaches us that tomorrow is
promised to NOBODY! When you know Jesus is the only answer, and you put it
off, you are playing the most dangerous game of all, "salvation roulette."
You are hoping that you will have another chance to ask Christ into your
heart, when in fact you may not. You have no idea if God allows you to wake
up in the morning, what that day will hold. I deal daily with too many
people who felt fine when they woke up, but before the day was over they
were dead from a heart attack or some other illness. Accidents happen every
day. The reality is, you may have an accident and never have the ability to
make that choice to accept Jesus. If you know Jesus is the answer, and you
are putting off asking Him into your heart and life, you are playing games
with your eternal soul.
I love you and care about you so much. I pray that what I have shared with
you has helped to educate you on the real facts of the sad story of Terri
Schiavo. I will continue to do what I have done for 15 years now, and that
is to pray for God to either miraculously heal Terri or allow her to die in
peace. Pray for Terri, for her parents and family, as well as Michael. I
have no direct knowledge if any of them have a personal relationship with
Jesus Christ. Being part of a church does not make you saved, only
accepting Christ into your heart and life by faith saves you. Sadly, it is
too late for Terri to make that choice and we must pray she did at some
point before her heat attack 15 years ago. But I pray that all of the rest
involved in this sad story who may not know Christ, will open their hearts
to His love and come to know Jesus as their Savior.
I will also pray for you. For those who are in bondage to an eating
disorder, I pray that you will look to Christ for your hope and strength and
allow Him to deliver you from this bondage. As I shared with you yesterday,
there is victory in Jesus! Also, please pray about putting together a
Living Will. That way, in case you are ever incapacitated, your wishes will
be carried out. Lastly, for those who have been putting off getting saved,
don't wait another moment. NOW is the time, since you may not have another
chance. Please take a moment, ask God to open your heart, and read the
words at this link: http://www.liveprayer.com/bdy_salvatn.html
In His love and service,
Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller
I can help you in any way you can contact me through my personal email at
bkeller@liveprayer.com
I like Fox, but Greta is a lawyer. She has been reporting on this case for at least a few years. Why is she asking Terri's Mom and Dad *how do you feel about your son-in-law*. It's obvious how they feel about the man who is trying to KILL their Daughter.. good grief Greta.
Greta knows this is wrong, but she does nothing but play games. I have no respect for her. She should have focused on the legal things with the Gibbs, but no.
Good point Darks!!
LOL I figured you had a creepy little booger on your machine. They will mess it so trying to use it feels like running in knee deep mud! Glad it's taken care of!!
I'm just sitting down here for a bit hoping to catch up o n this afternoon's hearing.
hehehe - EXCELLENT point!
Yes, Pepper777, been there, done that!! I have been many times awake , pacing the floor at night, like so many FReepers who care for Terri. When you stop to think this is AMERICA, and this type of attrocity can go on, it really makes you wonder where we will go from here if this is allowed to be carried through to her murder.
1-877-762-8762
Operator needs their name or their state. Easy as pie. AND PLEASE CALL DAVE WELDON and thank him for what he's going to in the House of Representatives on TUESDAY. Maybe he will be on c-span again. C-Span 1 is the House?
Doesn't matter. Jodi would have to prove that it was her money that bought it, and I guarantee she can't
Audits of Bank records, etc will show the paper trail.
It isn't difficult, especially since HINO will most likely have to account for every dime as her "guardian" under the exploitation issue that will cover theft of his "wards" property.
He was not co-habitating with Terri, so he should have spent her money on her care.
Thanks
I just read this neato stuff in the "2228" bill.
It has a neato line in there that would allow for pacemakers to be viewed the same way as ventilator tubes.
It says this:
S 2228 Page 16 and 17, posted 8/28/2000
14 (9) "Life-prolonging procedure" means any medical
15 procedure, treatment, or intervention, including artificially
16 provided sustenance and hydration, which sustains, restores,
17 or supplants a spontaneous vital function.
...........................................
That means a pacemaker can be viewed the same way as Terri's feeding tube and ventilators.
Won't start out that way, but abortion started out as being about incest, rape, and women's health emergencies.
This is insane.
All of it.
There is a Cheryl Ford - Clinical Lab Supervisor (SU license) registered in Florida and another Cheryl Ford licensed in Florida as an LPN but not an RN.
Don't cry. I have cried too, and the tears that pour out for Terri are heard by God.
I know it.
(passing you a huge box of "virtual-Kleenex")
The Trolls should be sent to ---->
Post #1240 It should shut them up.
Since Michael and his live in ALWAYS DODGE their depositions, we may never learn how they can live in one of the finest neighborhoods in Clearwater. But, forget the depositions. A forensic accountant hired by DCF can find out without having to go through J. Greer. I don't see how Greer can't be an accomplice or an accessory. He HANDED THEM TERRI'S MONEY.
What is "Til of the Hun"?
the very college where hino went to nursing school allegedly yanks out her teeth without anesthesia. Maybe he loaned Terri to the school of nursing to practice on Terri. I hope DCF finds out. I hope the nursing director at St. Pete College gets a visit by DCF.
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