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TERRI SCHIAVO MARCH 2005 DAILIES Fla's Til of the Hun Sets March Date to Starve Terri
Terri's Fight, The Empire Journal, World Net Daily, Life News ^ | February 28, 2005 | floriduh voter

Posted on 02/28/2005 7:08:08 AM PST by floriduh voter

Terri's Freepers,

Judge George Greer denied Terri's parents' Motion for a Stay to protect their daughter's life while there are still pending issues in this LIFE AND DEATH MATTER. In addition the Department of Children and Family Services made a surprise visit to the court hearing the other day and asked Judge Greer if they could approach the bench. Judge Greer denied DCF the opportunity to speak. DCF asked for 60 days to conduct a complete investigation of allegations that have surfaced in the form of a Complaint to their agency.

What was set in motion instead? On Friday, February 25th, Judge Greer REFUSED TO issue another Stay because he was "not comfortable" issuing a say to protect a Ward of the State but instead "set a date certain" (on his calendar at least, not on mine) to BEGIN THE BARBARIC, ANTI-AMERICAN, STARVATION-DEHYDRATION SLOW MURDER OF TERRI.

Attorney Gibbs for Terri's parents held a press conference after J. Greer's order that was so tastefully written to indicate that "he was giving the Schindlers until March 18th so they could "prepare for Last Rites." Attorneys Gibbs called this ruling and prior rulings "Hitler-resque". Indeed.

If Judge Greer wasn't LEGALIZING EUTHANASIA in his courtroom, why any need for Last Rites? Greer's urgency to fulfill this killing places urgency on every one of us to lobby Governor Bush, Florida's House and Florida's Senate.

A Judge in America is ordering the manner of someone's death, a disabled woman who is healthy but needs rehabilitation.

Time is short so we don't really have time to get into Greer's mind to see why he is Florida's Til of the Hun.

What can we do?

1. LOBBY TO SAVE TERRI

2. HELP BUMP THIS THREAD.

3. POST ARTICLES YOU SEE ABOUT TERRI.

4. VISIT PINELLAS COUNTY FLORIDA AND VIGIL WITH US AT HOSPICE WOODSIDE.

5. VISIT TALLAHASSEE AND LOBBY IN THE HALLS OF THE LEGISLATURE.

6. HOLD A DEMONSTRATION AT THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION.

7. Join the Message Board that freepers started at the Crystal Cathedral/Hour of Power. TELL YOUR CHURCH ABOUT TERRI.

8. Tell your friends that Terri is alert and aware of her surroundings and to visit www.terrisfight.org to see her videos.

9. PETITIONS. We will gather current Petitions here for you. At this time, you can sign a SAVE TERRI PETITION AT www.renewamerica.us. THERE ARE ALSO IMPEACH GREER PETITIONS ABOUT.

Finally, the Pope has no Living Will. He will be SAFE as long as he stays away from George Greer's courtroom. The Pope is in our thoughts and prayers and he knows of Terri. He wants Terri to be freed from oppression and from a painless death by starvation-dehyration.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO EVERY DAY, THE PAY ISN'T VERY GOOD BUT THE FRINGE BENEFITS ARE THE GREATEST. You are Great Americans and liberty is Terri's and freedom from oppression. Freepers, that is the big payoff if we continue our daunting task.

Terri's family is grateful to you and all of your prayers are being heard by the Giver of Life.

This is Terri's Fight and the battle is enjoined. JOIN US TO SAVE TERRI FROM FORCES THAT HAVE BUT ONE GOAL THAT IS AGAINST EVERYTHING AMERICAN.

GUIDELINES: If you want to start frivolous discussions, please start your own thread in chat.

If you like something from www.theempirejournal.com, please do not post the entire article at Free Republic. Unless I hear otherwise, I believe that we are allowed to post the title and link. TEJ is a great team member of Terri's network. Thanks, TEJ for making a difference and for getting the truth out there.

IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR CONTACT INFO, IT IS ON THE WAY. Thanks, floriduh voter


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To: DJ MacWoW

Good one. I will probably put that in a phone call.

Jeb can do much more. He is in THE ultimate position to
do something.

If he doesn't step in and force his hand into this, he can kiss off a Presidential election. This is not blackmail either.

I just will have lost respect for him. The heck with passing bill/laws, etc.

THIS CASE IS RIDDLED WITH CONFLICTS AND VIOLATIONS OF PLENTY OF LAW ALREADY ON THE BOOKS!!!!!!


1,461 posted on 03/03/2005 4:16:06 PM PST by atruelady
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To: TAdams8591

Yes, Kate is really a great person for coming out
in support of Terri.

Every interview I have seen her on since 2003 gives her personal story, what she overcame, and also talks about Terri and how horrible it is for HINO to get away with what he has been getting away with.


1,462 posted on 03/03/2005 4:17:45 PM PST by atruelady
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'Clear and Convincing Evidence' of Schiavo's Wishes Challenged
By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
March 03, 2005

http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewCulture.asp?Page=\Culture\archive\200503\CUL20050303b.html

(CNSNews.com) - The lawyer for the parents of Terri Schindler Schiavo has asked the judge in her case to overturn his legal finding from five years ago, the one in which the judge stated that there was "clear and convincing evidence" that Terri would not have wanted to be kept alive by artificial life support.

Attorney David Gibbs III said Wednesday that an incorrect assumption made by Pinellas-Pasco County Circuit Judge George Greer led the court to disregard relevant, accurate testimony in the case and provided Terri's husband with a critical advantage in trying to have his wife's hydration and feeding tube removed.

"If Judge Greer's 2000 order authorizing Michael Schiavo to end his wife's life were a criminal death sentence, Terri would be entitled to a new trial on the basis of reversible error," Gibbs said.

The alleged error centers on the testimony of Diane Meyer, one of Terri's life-long friends. She told Greer that Terri had expressed her disagreement with the decision of Karen Ann Quinlan's parents to remove their comatose daughter from life support in a highly publicized "right-to-die" case in the 1970s and 1980s.

"There was an incident when I told a poor joke about Karen Ann Quinlan. I remember distinctly because Terri never lost her temper with me. This time she did," Meyer testified in 2002." She told me that she did not approve of what was going on or what happened in the Karen Ann Quinlan case."

Meyer told the court that the conversation had taken place, "in the summer of 1982."

Greer ruled that, because Meyer spoke of the conversation in the present tense, she must have been mistaken about the date. He deduced that the comments must have been made in the mid-1970s, when Terri would have been only 11 or 12 years old.

"The first quote involved a bad joke and used the verb 'is.' The second quote involved the response from Terri Schiavo, which used the word 'are,'" Greer wrote in his decision. "The court is mystified as to how these present tense verbs would have been used some six years after the death of Karen Ann Quinlan."

As a result, Greer ruled that the statement that she "would not want to be kept alive artificially" - which Terri allegedly made in the presence of her husband, brother-in-law and brother-in-law's wife - was Terri's only adultcomment on the matter.

But Gibbs' motion argued that it was Greer, not Meyer, who was in error.

"The court discredited Ms. Meyer's testimony because of its own mistaken conclusion that Karen Ann Quinlan was dead in 1982. In reality, Ms. Quinlan was very much alive in 1982," Gibbs wrote. "Ms. Quinlan did not die until 1985, some nine years after her court case ended and her respirator was removed."

Greer's refusal to consider Meyer's testimony as equal to that of Terri's husband and in-laws constitutes a reversible error, Gibbs claimed.

"When the adult statement of Mrs. Schiavo to her friend Ms. Meyer is given the credibility it deserves, there is no longer clear and convincing evidence that Mrs. Schiavo had, knowingly and with understanding, waived her right to life," Gibbs contended. "It is therefore no longer equitable that the February 11, 2000 and February 25, 2005, orders to end Mrs. Schiavo's life should have further application."

As a result, Gibbs asked Greer to vacate the orders finding that Terri Schindler Schiavo would not have wanted to be provided with nutrition and hydration through a feeding tube and to recall his most recent order granting Michael Schiavo the power to remove her feeding tube on March 18.

Michael Schiavo's attorney, a prominent "right-to-die" advocate and author, told the St. Petersburg Times that Greer's error was "insignificant.

"I think what the judge meant to say was that her life support was removed in the mid-1970s," George Felos told Times Staff Writer Chris Tisch. "This is so insignificant that the parents chose not to raise the issue in the appellate court."

Gibbs said in a statement that the matter had not been raised earlier, not because it was irrelevant, but because the error was only discovered within the past few days.

"A Florida attorney pointed out the mistake to me last week," Gibbs said. "As an officer of the court, I feel obliged to provide this information to Judge Greer in the form of a motion asking him to declare that, in fact, a mistake in dates had erroneously influenced his decision in 2000."

Karen Ann Quinlan was brain-dead and in a coma when her parents and siblings unanimously decided to remove her from a respirator. The hospital caring for Quinlan refused, but her family petitioned the court for permission and eventually triumphed in 1976 at the state court level. She lived nine years receiving no "artificial" life support, but receiving nutrition and hydration through a feeding tube.

According to a dozen medical professionals who have examined Terri Schindler Schiavo or her medical records, she is neither comatose nor brain-dead. While the court has declared her to be in a "persistent vegetative state," video taken by her family shows her tracking a helium-filled balloon as it floats across the room, smiling and laughing in response to being tickled and trying to respond verbally to prompts from her mother.

Robert and Mary Schindler have more than a dozen other motions pending in an attempt to block the removal of their daughter's feeding tube. Greer refused last week to hear any new motions not directly related to Terri's death process or after-death administrative matters. The Schindlers have appealed the rejected motions to Florida's Second District Court of Appeals.

Terri Schindler Schiavo suffered a brain injury due to oxygen depravation in 1990. Her husband, Michael Schiavo, was awarded nearly $2 million in judgments and settlements in response to a medical malpractice lawsuit claiming that the oxygen depravation was caused by a potassium imbalance created by an undiagnosed eating disorder.

The Schindler family and doctors who have examined the records believe that a 1991 bone scan report indicates that Terri was the victim of an assault and on-going physical abuse. Felos has denied that his client ever abused or assaulted Terri.

If Terri's feeding tube is removed March 18 as ordered by Greer, doctors expect her to die of dehydration within a week to ten days. She could theoretically live as long as two weeks before dying of starvation.

E-mail a comment or news tip to Jeff Johnson.

Send a Letter to the Editor about this article.


1,463 posted on 03/03/2005 4:18:03 PM PST by Chocolate Rose (FOR HONEST NEWS REPORTING GET THE SCOOP HERE : www.theEmpireJournal.com/)
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To: TAdams8591

It was a very good program. Everything was said and fairly well explained. The most critical: all the things Michael Schaivo has done or failed to do for Terri were told.


1,464 posted on 03/03/2005 4:19:17 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo; floriduh voter
In case you didn't get my other message... Do scandisk and disk defragment...these have to be done on a regular basis to keep pc running smoothly!

Download spybot

Download Ad-Aware

Spyware will mess up a pc too, run these regularly to keep pc clean.

1,465 posted on 03/03/2005 4:22:55 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{---><Petition to Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: nicmarlo

3-March-2005 -- Catholic News Agency

DISABILITY-RIGHTS ACTIVIST, ONCE CONSIDERED 'A VEGETABLE', JOINS FIGHT FOR TERRI SCHIAVO
LOS ANGELES, USA, March 3 (CNA) - A disability-rights activist, who was once dependent on a feeding tube and considered "a vegetable" by medical professionals, has joined the fight to save Terri Schindler Schiavo and hopes to visit the 41-year-old disabled Florida woman by mid-month.

Kate Adamson suffered an acatastrophic brainstem stroke in Los Angeles in June 1995 at the age of 33, which left her in what is now being called "a locked-in state" for five months. She was totally paralyzed and unable to communicate, but she could see, hear and feel and she was fully conscious, like Terri.

While doctors said Adamson could not be saved, her husband insisted that she receive rehabilitation therapy and treatment, unlike Terri's husband, Michael Schiavo, who has denied his wife treatment for more than a decade.

Now, at 43, the mother of two is fully functional, except for some paralysis on the left side of her body. She tours the country to tell her story and speak about the sanctity of life. Adamson believes the campaign to defend Terri's life has a large impact on all of society.

"This is not just going to affect Terri, but a lot of Terris," she told CNA. "This (the outcome in Terri's case) will affect a lot people's lives."

The New Zealand native believes Terri's condition is being widely misrepresented. In an effort to clarify Terri's condition and urge others to join the fight to save Terri, Adamson has made several television and radio appearances, often with Terri's father, Bob Schindler.

"I have a unique understanding of what Terri is feeling. I could feel everything that the doctors did to me, and I could do nothing. I was at the complete mercy of others, and they couldn't hear me," said Adamson.

Kate also has a unique insight into what it is like to be starved. While in her locked-in state, she experienced digestive problems, which led doctors to stop her feeding tube for eight days. She remembers the pain of being withheld nourishment.

Adamson is in the midst of making travel plans to visit Terri in Florida, March 12-13, a few days before Terri's feeding tube is to be removed by court order. Her publicist, Wanda Sanchez, told CNA that a request has been made to Terri's husband's lawyers to visit Terri, but Adamson has not yet received a response.

While Adamson is unsure whether she will be permitted to visit Terri, she hopes to meet Florida legislators and to share her story.

"God has brought me back for a purpose," said the Christian woman. "For me not to speak would be a betrayal of that gift."

"I pray that God will soften hearts to see the woman (Terri) lying there and see someone who deserves a chance at life, even if she doesn't respond the way we want her to respond," Adamson told CNA. "I'm praying the judge's heart will be softened."

"God is in the business of miracles. Everything hinges on him right now," she said.

Adamson's efforts to date have resulted in thousands of responses from people who agree that Terri deserves a chance to live, reported Sanchez. These people have been encouraged to contact legislators through phone calls or letter writing and make their voices heard, said Sanchez.

Adamson has documented her story in the book she authored, called Kate's Journey.



http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=54320


1,466 posted on 03/03/2005 4:23:19 PM PST by Chocolate Rose (FOR HONEST NEWS REPORTING GET THE SCOOP HERE : www.theEmpireJournal.com/)
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To: nicmarlo; TAdams8591; ruoflaw; tutstar; phenn
good letter; but wanna bet you'll get another idential auto response reply? : )

Probably but I feel better! LOL!!!

1,467 posted on 03/03/2005 4:23:23 PM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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To: atruelady

I'm sorry, I didn't mean it to be "terse"
I put quotation marks around "coincidence" to indicate that I didn't think it to be a coincidence. I took it to be Divine Intervention, it really gave me goosebumps how it so fit the current situation.

I'm sorry on my part for the misunderstaning.


1,468 posted on 03/03/2005 4:23:34 PM PST by ExPatInFrance ((JUDGE GEORGE GREER'S CREDO: LAST RITES INSTEAD OF CIVIL RIGHTS. Greed & Greer KILL!))
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To: DJ MacWoW

good for you! I am going to do the same, yeah, I might get a autoresponse but Governor Bush signed that first law that made it possible for a Judge to issue her execution. I can't believe he doesn't have enough power to order a full investigation into everyone that failed to help Terri Schiavo when they were supposed to protect her.


1,469 posted on 03/03/2005 4:24:28 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: atruelady
Good one. I will probably put that in a phone call.

Which billious angry part? ;)

I think Jeb would make a lousy, wishy-washy Presidential candidate.

1,470 posted on 03/03/2005 4:25:10 PM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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To: ruoflaw

Not to butt in here, but if people want to write to the Gov, a nice side-note might be his ability to invoke 415.1051 through adult protective services and get this girl into protective custody pending the DCF's investigation.


1,471 posted on 03/03/2005 4:29:18 PM PST by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: tutstar; floriduh voter

you're right, tutstar....I wasn't thinking about spyware/adware. I use both those programs you mentioned, regularly. Spyware is very bad, really can ruin all functioning on your computer and it recreates more spyware programs....mine was infected once with it.


1,472 posted on 03/03/2005 4:31:43 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: txrangerette

your 1450 is a great post!


1,473 posted on 03/03/2005 4:34:41 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: Chocolate Rose
thanks for posting that, CR. On Gallagher's program, she did talk about this, as well:

"This is not just going to affect Terri, but a lot of Terris, ... This (the outcome in Terri's case) will affect a lot people's lives."

1,474 posted on 03/03/2005 4:34:51 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo; All

post by amdgmary
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1355344/posts?page=42#42


1,475 posted on 03/03/2005 4:36:35 PM PST by Chocolate Rose (FOR HONEST NEWS REPORTING GET THE SCOOP HERE : www.theEmpireJournal.com/)
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To: phenn

Ok, thanks for the great idea!


1,476 posted on 03/03/2005 4:38:37 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: pc93
I will dig it up and post my account. Needless to say I'm very pissed off at this new e-mail coming from Lauren O'Connor because of what it says.

I can see why! Did you post that account?My prayer is that Jeb will do what is RIGHT before God!!

1,477 posted on 03/03/2005 4:39:27 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

read Post 1471


1,478 posted on 03/03/2005 4:40:01 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: phenn

did you email him and ask....I will do it but you carry more weight than I do because you live there


1,479 posted on 03/03/2005 4:41:41 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: ruoflaw

Oh, yes. Many have. But, they need to keep it up methinks.


1,480 posted on 03/03/2005 4:43:03 PM PST by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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