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Samurai Sword Used In Long Island Murder
1010 WINS - NEW YORK ^ | Feb 28, 2005 6:46 am US/Eastern | 1010wins

Posted on 02/28/2005 6:58:07 AM PST by Calpernia

A retired city police officer was found dead in his Long Island home on Sunday, apparently slashed to death by a samurai sword, authorities said.

The former policeman, Scott Nager, 51, was found dead by his wife, Laura at about 1 p.m., said Officer Al Prim, a spokesman for the Suffolk County police.

Nager served on the city police force for 15 years, working as a patrolman in the 34th precinct, which includes Washington Heights and Inwood. He retired in July, 1996 because of a service-related injury, The New York Times reported.

Suffolk county police said Laura Nager's son, Zachary Gibian, 18, was arrested in connection with the death. He was charged with second degree murder and set to be arraigned on Monday in First District Court in Central Islip.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 34thprecinct; bang; centralislip; leo; longisland; murdered; patricide; policeofficer; samuraisword; scottnager; washingtonheights; zacherygibian
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To: marmar

The Highlander??????????


21 posted on 02/28/2005 8:29:17 AM PST by marmar (Even though I may look different then you...my blood runs red, white and blue.....)
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To: Calpernia
What?  Was this written by a 5th grader?  

If the victim were killed with a broadsword would the author have said "killed with a knight's sword"?

Is it so hard to say "killed with a katana (a sword used by the samurai)"?

22 posted on 02/28/2005 8:33:19 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: rjsimmons

"Oh the senselessness of it all. When will Congress ban all of these assault swords? They need to close the loophole at sword shows. Who really needs a sword anyway? Of course, the Congress should still allow swords for hunting..."

We need to get these swords "fingerprinted" to aid in criminal investigations(not aware that a few passes with the Arkansas stone will change the fingerprint...).

All your swords are belong to us.


23 posted on 02/28/2005 8:34:43 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian ( Political correctness is incorrect. ><BCC>)
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To: BullDog108
Got a pic of the Kill Bill Samurai chick? Ulma?
24 posted on 02/28/2005 8:36:43 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun
;^)

Since this is a family site.....

25 posted on 02/28/2005 8:42:10 AM PST by BullDog108 (Conservatives believe in God. Liberals think they are God.)
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To: TexasCajun

26 posted on 02/28/2005 8:43:50 AM PST by BullDog108 (Conservatives believe in God. Liberals think they are God.)
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To: ctdonath2

I wouldn't say that any swords under $1000 are not worth looking at. If all you demand is authentic feel and balance, and decent steel and craftsmanship, and you don't care about its 'pedigree', I've seen many nice swords under $1000, some even made in China. I've got my eye on one for under $200 that has a real hamon and feels like the real thing. Plus that way I won't have to kill myself in shame when I inevitably chip or break the edge while out swinging it around in the yard :)


27 posted on 02/28/2005 8:52:21 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money

"From the dawn of time we came..."



http://soundamerica.com/sounds/movies/D-i/Highlander/


28 posted on 02/28/2005 8:55:55 AM PST by American Vet Repairman (War revolves around the butt-either kick it , kiss it, or haul it.)
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To: Calpernia
Photo of the suspect (figure on left):

29 posted on 02/28/2005 8:56:45 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: Sender

I'm suspicious.

A real katana is made of hammered folded steel, tempered through a differential hardening process which causes the distinctive curve, and is sharpened by polishing; the handle usually features real ray skin and is wrapped with silk cord. You don't get all that for under $1000.

This in contrast with cheap mass-produced "samurai swords", which are usually 440C stainless steel, cut to shape, and machine-sharpened; the handle usually features plastic wrapped in nylon. That's your usual $50-300 blade.

Ultimately depends on what you're using it for. Having fun swinging it around? get what you like. Practicing Iaido, Tameshegiri, etc.? you'll need proper balance and a real edge.


30 posted on 02/28/2005 9:08:44 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: Calpernia; Unknown Freeper
George Pataki and Charles Schumer should be on top of this one with legislation to impose an immediate nationwide ban. Nine out of ten terrorist prefer samurai swords to slash the tires of airliners during takeoff.

(Sarcasm off)

31 posted on 02/28/2005 9:16:55 AM PST by Onyxx (Semper Fi....Do or Die)
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To: shubi
Get a gun and steal an original Samurai sword from someone that doesn't have a gun.

But if I did that, I wouldn't be worthy to hold the sword.

32 posted on 02/28/2005 9:22:30 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Pylot

"And after he got the sword out, he said to me "hey, hold this piece of rice paper 'bout this far apart". -Lester 'one-arm' Finchley


33 posted on 02/28/2005 9:29:59 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Sender

No kidding! I was a wee nervous and did say a quick prayer for my fingers. I am sure that sword would have lopped em off as easily as it sliced through that paper!

The real old one did have the scabbard made of sting ray skin too. It is black with white dots all over it. Very beautiful.


34 posted on 02/28/2005 9:34:59 AM PST by Pylot
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To: ctdonath2

I'm talking about decent medium-carbon steel, not folded but the same all the way through. Probably forged out of old Chinese railroad tracks. It does get the real heat treat that causes the curve and the plain straight hamon. It's no stainless steel wall hanger. The tsuka is nylon, both epoxied and pinned to the tang, so it is a safe tight bond and water will never affect it, unlike the real thing. Fittings and wrapping are OK and the saya is lacquered wood. You can never take the sword apart and change anything on it though. I think all that is well worth $200.


35 posted on 02/28/2005 9:35:18 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Calpernia

A properly manufactured and maintained Samurai sword is essentially a 3-foot long razor blade. The crime scene must have been a mess.


36 posted on 02/28/2005 10:05:26 AM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: Sender
I am thinking about a modern-made example though that is made almost the same way.

..goto hppt://www.bugei.com, a fine sword retailer.

37 posted on 02/28/2005 10:50:20 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: ctdonath2

Thanks, don't know about, http://www.swordforum.com


38 posted on 02/28/2005 10:52:04 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: skinkinthegrass; ctdonath2
Bugei gets a pretty steep price for their fine swords, IMHO. But they look really nice.

Do an eBay search for 'Chen Katana' and check out the Hanwei Forge offerings for us cheap poor people. I don't have a job right now...I am ronin :) This one is what I'm thinking of for a yard sword. 6th generation practical katana. You know, to do the hedges.

39 posted on 02/28/2005 10:56:30 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Calpernia
after 39 posts, all I can say is DAMN.

An ex leo, who prolly had a firearm, is killed by a guy with a blade.

Just goes to show, that banning the weapon, or having the weapon, doesnt mean squat, as long as there are nutjobs that want to kill you, and have the patience to set up a plan...

40 posted on 02/28/2005 11:35:22 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Patience is a virtue, but it aint one of mine !!!)
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