Posted on 02/27/2005 7:13:06 AM PST by TheBlackFeather
He's unable to travel because he refuses to present a government-approved ID
SAN FRANCISCO -- John Gilmore's splendid isolation began July 4, 2002, when, with defiance aforethought, he strolled to the Southwest Airlines counter at Oakland Airport and presented his ticket.
(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghpostgazette.com ...
Bwahahahahaha! That's excellent. Excellent! They also thought that it was so basic that everyone give half their income to the superior beings known as "mathematicians" that they didn't think to put it in there.
Make your checks out to AmishDude.
Amazing how far we have fallen. Enjoy your chains.
Have you considered suicide?
May I suggest it?
The use of "elegance" here hinges on the previous analysis of his type, and it is in a mathematical sense where the knots are all tied and no loose ends remain to be seen.
"Like him, I'd like to know what law demands that we show our ID at the airport."
More than you want to know.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/49/subtitles/vii/parts/a/subparts/iii/chapters/449/subchapters/i/sections/section%5F44909.html
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/49/subtitles/vii/parts/a/subparts/iii/chapters/449/subchapters/i/sections/section%5F44902.html
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/get-cfr.cgi?TITLE=14&PART=108&SECTION=13&YEAR=2001&TYPE=TEXT
All aspects of security listed.
http://www.access.gpo.gov/uscode/title49/subtitlevii_parta_subpartiii_chapter449_subchapteri_.html
http://www.firstgov.gov/fgsearch/index.jsp?offset=10&page=0&dep=t&nr=10&de=detailed&mw0=passenger%20screening&mt0=all&ms0=should&in0=domain&dom0=gpoaccess.gov,%20gpo.gov&db=www&rn=1&parsed=true&sid=161795222
http://www.airsafe.com/analyze/usinfo.htm
Although you mock, this was a very real debate between the groups of founders that favored a bill of rights and those that opposed it.
Those that opposed a bill of rights did so on the grounds that they thought an enumeration of rights would serve to basically eliminate any rights that weren't listed. The 9th and 10th Amendments were a compromise.
Looking back, though, it appears that those opposed were correct, although query as to whether the lack of a bill of rights wouldn't just have allowed the government to trample all over those eight things listed, anyhow.
If there is a fire in the theater, should he not yell "FIRE"?
FROM THE ARTICLE - This is what we are talking about...
Ann Davis, a spokeswoman for TSA, tacitly acknowledged the strange rabbit hole into which Gilmore has fallen. The Department of Justice, in its first response to Gilmore's suit two years ago, declined to acknowledge whether such an instruction existed. Later, it admitted its existence. Then the government asked a judge to hold a hearing in secret and preclude Gilmore's lawyers from seeing the regulation they sought to challenge, the contents of which seem to be pretty widely known.
If there were no classified laws like you claim then why would the government ask for a secret hearing?
I was born at home as well and I have my original birth certificate; my dad went to the county courthouse and certified a healthy birth of a bright but obstreperous baby boy.
Please re-read the story. There is no claim by the airline that it is enforcing its own policies. The airline clearly stated it was acting in accordance with law, then couldn't produce the law because it is a secret law that the government won't show you.
Once again, this is not a story about an airline claiming it is acting within its "rights." It is a story about an airline not having discretion but rather acting on government orders.
I'm sure it does
So Rosa Parks had no legs on which to stand?
"At the very least, conservative Americans should demand that all laws that apply to us (be they legislation, or bureaucratic regulations, or judicial decisions) be on file and easily available."
They are.
The US Code, CFR etc are all electronically available for searching.
They said much the same about Thomas Paine and Benjamin Franklin.
Another poster who blithely ignores the 9th and 10th amendments, I see.
On miltary duty you are not a citizen, you are government property.
DMVs can give out non-drivers license ID's for people who need them but can't drive.
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