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1 posted on 02/26/2005 6:55:40 AM PST by Pokey78
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The main rap I've heard on Cheney is that he lacks the charisma to get elected.

Are you kidding me? The main rap on Cheney is that he has a marginal circulatory system.

2 posted on 02/26/2005 6:59:28 AM PST by Huck (I only type LOL when I'm really LOL.)
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A Cheney candidacy will give the 'rats the vapors.


3 posted on 02/26/2005 6:59:48 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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They know that gravitas trumps charisma in choosing a president in a foreign policy era.

If true, Kerry who has neither would have collected only about the 30% or so of the Kool-Aid drinking popular vote, not 48%.

4 posted on 02/26/2005 7:00:03 AM PST by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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I love Cheney (him and Rummy are our current times Marshall and Truman IMHO), but I do not believe he has the vigor and the physical stamina to run for President. He has served us with distinction, Fred, let him go fly fishing.


5 posted on 02/26/2005 7:01:00 AM PST by schu
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Dick Cheney has spent nearly 40 years in public service.  Aside from the time he put in at Halliburton, where he made something approaching his worth, he's lived on a relative pittance.  How much do we want this man to sacrifice?
 
Go out and fish those streams Dick, spend some quality time with Lynn, play with the kids and grand kids.  You've had a fine run and we could ask no more from you.

Owl_Eagle

"You know, I'm going to start thanking
the woman who cleans the restroom in
the building I work in.  I'm going to start
thinking of her as a human being"

-Hillary Clinton
(Yes, she really said that
Peggy Noonan
The Case Against Hillary Clinton, pg 55)
 

6 posted on 02/26/2005 7:01:14 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts. "Aww. not even a little?")
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Cheney-Rice ticket in 2008?


7 posted on 02/26/2005 7:01:27 AM PST by Reagan is King (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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I think it would take a threat of monumental significance
for Cheney to be the nominee.

If something goes seriously wrong somewhere in the world
and we're drawn into a bitter conflict,
I could see Cheney as the only real choice...
not for political reasons, but for national survival ones.

11 posted on 02/26/2005 7:06:06 AM PST by Bobber58 (whatever it takes, for as long as it takes)
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I don't know if I could stand another election where Halliburton is mentioned 24/7. Cheney would make a good president, I would love to see the liberals scream! :D


12 posted on 02/26/2005 7:06:09 AM PST by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com JUST UPDATED)
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Fred Barnes is usually WAY too smart to have written this.

Cheney is not a well man.
Cheney will be 68 in 2008.
Cheney is very rich and does not need the money.
Cheney has absolutely NO interest in remaining in DC.
Cheney helped develop the foreign policy, but others were visable in publicly implementing it.
More than anything else, Dick Cheney is tired. Lynn Cheney is tired..... and they are smart enough to get out of DC while they can.

>What about John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, Bill Frist, and other Republicans who are thinking about running?

McCain is our Howard Dean. Frist is a non-starter. Rudy, Romney and Rice are the front runners now against the Dems obvious selection of Hillary with Hispanic Bill Richardson as VP. (Yes, I know, Republicans hate her, but the radical wing of the Dems now in control love her.)
13 posted on 02/26/2005 7:07:54 AM PST by MindBender26 (Having your own XM177 E2 means never having to say you are sorry......)
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fat white men are in low demand for any political office today due to the hollywoodization of politics.

governor wilson of california appointed a fat white man as u.s. senator and he lost the next election to a photogenic female democrat.


14 posted on 02/26/2005 7:08:02 AM PST by ken21 ( warning: a blood bath when rehnquist, et al retire. >hang w dubya.< dems want 2 divide us.)
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I have it on a good souce (DUmmieland) that Chenney is resigning next month and Condi is taking over.


15 posted on 02/26/2005 7:09:29 AM PST by Always Right
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... What about John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, Bill Frist, and other Republicans who are thinking about running?...

Twenty per centers at best. The Hellbeast will devour them.

Cheney, on the other hand , is a real man. He could bring me back to the republican party.

If he chooses not to run, the GOP had better find a strong young horse, perhaps Mike Pence. I'm beginning to hear more of him and have heard nothing yet I couldn't support.


16 posted on 02/26/2005 7:14:27 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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Only two sitting presidents have seen their running-mate vice presidents elected to succeed them - Andrew Jackson and Ronald Reagan. Reckon the election of your sitting VP as a third term for the sitting president, and you can rank those two with FDR who personally won a third term.

So it's somewhat ironic that a sitting VP is generally a shoo-in for his party's presidental nomination - it's not that good a credential for winning election, necessarily.

Every administration puts out pious platitudes about how much its VP does - and everyone understands that that is nonsense; presidents don't even like the idea of VP any more than people like to write their own wills. But with Cheney, no one doubts that it is true.

Our republican tradition is that a person's ability and energy, and not his family, determines what office he will or will not attain. If we were true to that code, we Republicans would nominate a person who

The only trouble is that the person who best fits that picture frame is not only the son of one president but the brother of another.
18 posted on 02/26/2005 7:23:29 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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This is real simple, folks: Great leadership comes from great followership.

Followership is a strange word and I would go into all of the aspects of what good followership is, but I don't need to. Dick Cheney is the example of great followership. And, no, followership doesn't have anything to do with being a "yes man".

The idea of followership really goes right back to Ronald Reagan, who said:

"There’s nothing you can’t achieve as long as you don’t care who gets credit."

Dick Cheney is a living example of that axiom.

21 posted on 02/26/2005 7:26:13 AM PST by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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Not going to happen, IMO...Fred's off the beam on this.


28 posted on 02/26/2005 7:45:27 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless our troops.)
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Cheney has the charisma (not as much as W), definitely the intelligence. It would be an honor to have him run and win, but I wonder about his health. I guess if you keep busy like W, he would be in top shape healthwise. Give that heart some exercise!


32 posted on 02/26/2005 8:12:40 AM PST by FeeinTennessee (This black chick PROUDLY supports President George W. Bush!)
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Seems Fred won't take "no" for an answer. Maybe if Vice President Cheney gives the Leahy treatment to anyone who asks, that'll be strident enough.


36 posted on 02/26/2005 8:21:31 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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If we're putting Cheney up in 2008, then we're desperate. He can't win with his health problems.


37 posted on 02/26/2005 8:22:57 AM PST by Brilliant
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Note that Hillary has to get reelcted to the Senate in 2006. The Republicans need to counter with a "gravitas" candidate whom she can't ignore. Then we need a bloody knock-down, drag-out barroom brawl kind of campaign. Sure, her Thighness will win but she may too damaged to be a viable presidential candidate. Please, please let that happen.


38 posted on 02/26/2005 8:37:37 AM PST by Dilbert56
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Owl Eagle said it best in this thread. Let Dick Cheney go fish those streams and spend time with his family. He's served America with integrity, distinction, honor and class.

If the GOP wants to nominate a winner, they need look no further than the combination of General Tommy Franks and Senator John Cornyn of Texas. The only problem would be deciding who should be President, and who should be VP.

Both men are more than qualified and instill confidence.

That ticket would finish the job of totally destroying the Democratic Party, Senator Fat Ankles notwithstanding.


39 posted on 02/26/2005 8:49:51 AM PST by Mad Mammoth
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