Posted on 02/25/2005 6:00:20 PM PST by Cagey
Strength Reaches Into Republican And Independent Circles
Feb 25, 2005 9:15 am US/Central NEW YORK (CBS) A recent Gallup poll indicates that Democratic Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton's strength among women reaches into Republican and Independent circles.
The finding, analysts say, could give her a much better chance of winning a general election should she seek the presidency in 2008.
The poll also shows that the junior New York senator and former first lady, has a more favorable image among women than men, 58 percent women as opposed to 48 percent of men.
Gerald Benjamin, dean of the liberal arts college at SUNY at New Paltz says Clinton has wooed voters by staking out centrist positions on a range of issues including abortion and the war in Iraq.
The Director of the Marist Institute of Polling, Lee Miringoff, said that although the support among women is beneficial, Clinton is far from getting the party's Democratic nomination, should she decide to run.
60K votes change in Ohio - Kerry is president right now.
Well the thing about all of this talk of the election being swung by 60,000 votes in Ohio is that Bush and the GOP could say the same thing about close Blue states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and New Hampshire. I wish someone would point this out when ever the Dem talking heads bring up the Ohio tally. Strangely, the only person I've heard mention it is Chris Matthews.
But I get what you're saying, and I actually agree with you. Bush's victory was historic, but it was too close for comfort. It wasn't so long ago that a liberals like Kerry were being blown out by embarrassing margins, and its sort of frightening that he came so close.
The important thing to determine is why he made it so uncomfortably close. Was it the combination of the troubles in Iraq, plus the leftover and continuing effects of the economic slowdown that Bush inherited upon taking office, and if so, does that mean that w/o those things that Bush would have Mondaled Kerry? Or is it due, at least in part, to the pro-Democrat changing demography of the nation, driven most by mass immigration, and as such the days of Nixonian and Reaganesque blowouts are over?
I think its a combination. I think the demography has become and continues to be more favorable to the Democrats, but I also think that as of now, the nation still naturally favors a conservative over a liberal, and as such I think that had Iraq gone smoother (or not happened at all) and had the manufacturing job losses not been so great in certain states, that Bush would have beaten Kerry easily, by 10 points or so.
I would expect this from wishy-washy independents, but what the hell kind of gulliable Republicans would actually be convinced that Her Thighness is their candidate? This poll has to be baloney.
Looks like that lunk was likely to have a stroke either during or just after that photo shoot.
oh, god...not that!
um...on january 20th 2009, or so, i want to locate a job overseas.
that would be 28 years of 2 families, in a country that rejected european aristocracy.
Well that poll is biased. THIS women is strong!
60 to 40 percent or better is a landslide.
your last paragraph is exactly right - it was close because the country has changed since 1984. and we beat the Dems on two issues - national security and ethical values. now for sure, those are two good issues to have, but our party needs a better economic message. these private SS account could have been a key to that, but somehow the push for it seems to have involved only a one week blitz - and now I don't hear anything about it anymore. its going to take a much bigger use of the bully pulpit then that to change SS.
"I don't trust this, remember how well Kerry was doing? "
Why would you not trust it? Hint: "New York?"......"CBS?"
I think it was because of fear of doing badl with Seniors. I think Bush did quite well with them, and it was no doubt due to the same reason he did well with everyone else -- moral values and national security -- but if he had pushed hard on Soc Sec reform he may have lost support with them.
I did.
I live in NY. I don't know what to say, but people do not have their heads on straight here.
Hillary Clinton, I do not know how anyone could vote for her, but I'm surrounded by the people who did.
Yikes! Well, I guess we get what we pay for. LOL
Boy, she sure is getting a lot of free advertising for a junior senator who has never accomplished anything good in her whole life.
I'm not the spelling police, but I always want to spell correctly. We are human and make mistakes. Not putting anyone down here, but I've been there.
CBS2 really shouldn't talk about what Hillary looks like these days. Last few pictures of her in the news show a puffy face with baggy eyes. Looks like she has been over medicating. Also, the hair usually looks like a recently abandoned bird nest. The MSM is way too stupid to shut up about what Hillary looks like.
"Last few pictures of her in the news show a puffy face with baggy eyes."
She might have gotten some bad news about Bill. Like he's still functional below the waist so she still has to keep tabs on him.
RE: Your #5! Who in the hell is that???!!!
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