Our oceans are warming due to seismic activity, but the land masses are cooling and have been for years. It's the classic set up for an ice age.
Bump for later.
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Solar Activity and Terrestrial Climate
(28 July 04) updated (30 July 04)
On July 6, 2004, a BBC article, headlined Sunspots reaching 1000-year high, caught the attention of a number of readers. Related articles soon appeared in other publications, for example: Suspot activity hits 1000-year high at Swissinfo.org, The truth about global warming - it's the Sun that's to blame at the London Telegraph, and Hotter-burning sun warming the planet at the Washington Times.
It seems that at a conference of astronomers in Hamburg, Germany, Sami Solanki and colleagues presented a discussion of possible correlations between solar variability and terrestrial climate. The recent articles provide some clues to the content of the presentation, but a slightly closer look may be of interest.
Interestingly enough, the principal paper on which the presentation was based was published last year, and briefly discussed here by John Daly at Evidence for an Unusually Active Sun. An abstract of the paper is available at Millennium-Scale Sunspot Number Reconstruction: Evidence for an Unusually Active Sun since the 1940s. The paper is available in PDF form at I.G. Usoskin, S. Solanki, M. Schuessler, K. Mursula, K. Alanko, A millennium scale sunspot number reconstruction: Evidence for an unusually active sun since the 1940's, Phys. Rev. Lett., 91(21), 211101, 2003. (Hereinafter, Usoskin et al. 2003)
Of several closely related papers I will mention I.G.Usoskin, K. Mursula, S. Solanki, M. Schuessler, and K. Alanko, Reconstruction of solar activity for the last millennium using 10Be data, Astron. Astrophys., 413, 745-751, 2004.. (Hereinafter, Usoskin et al. 2004)
Using records of 10Be (Beryllium 10) concentration in polar ice, and some physical models for processes connecting 10Be concentration with sunspot numbers, the authors attempt to reconstruct average sunspot numbers for the period from the year 850 to the present. Their reconstruction indicates that the period of high solar activity during the last 60 years is unique throughout the past 1150 years.
The 10Be records they use include annual data from Greenland for the years 1424 to 1985, and eight year sampled data from Antarctica for the years 850 to 1900. They supplement those data with some 14C (Carbon 14) data, apparently for most of the period of the study, and with group sunspot numbers (GSN) from 1610 on. While their methodology has its problems, they claim it results in a better correlation of 11 year smoothed "reconstructed" sunspot numbers with historical GSN than a statistical regression would do, and they summarize their results in a graph that includes indicators of MM: Medieval maximum, Om: Oort Minimum, Wm: Wolf minimum, Sm: Spörer minimum, Mm: Maunder minimum, and Dm: Dalton minimum. It also includes estimated corrections of their calculated sunspot numbers in the solid red and green lines.
In order for the sun to force the climate to the little ice age observed during the Maunder Minimum, the change in the solar constant had to be about twice what has been observed during modern, zero-sunspot periods.1. Modern zero-sunspot periods have been very brief. The most recent calendar month with a zero WSN was June 1913; the most recent calendar year with a zero WSN was 1810. A zero sunspot day, or week, may not tell us much about what the so-called solar constant would do during a zero sunspot year, or a zero sunspot decade.
In the 2002 Harold Jeffreys Lecture to the Royal Astronomical Society in London, Solanki said: After 1980, however, the Earth's temperature exhibits a remarkably steep rise, while the sun's irradiance displays at the most a weak secular trend. Hence the sun cannot be the dominant source of this latest temperature increase, with man-made greenhouse gases being the likely dominant alternative.1. That statement suggests that Solanki had not yet read Usoskin et al. 2003, which he co-authored. :-) Again, solar irradiance is not the only solar variable.
Yet more junk science to waste FR bandwidth...
Weather discussion and all manner of technical stuff with the latest Global Warming argument.
I'm confused. Are they saying that has risen above 32degrees in the poles? Cause I don't think there is a 'little ice' and 'lotsa ice' temperatures. It's either freezing or it's not.
Ice Is Melting Everywhere
Evidence to the contrary comes from :
Temperature in Antarctica By Jack .J Daly
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Temperature in Antarctica By Jack .J Daly
Vostok Going Nowhere (9th Jan 04) Vostok is a scientific base in Antarctica that holds the world record of the coldest place on the face of the Earth. Vostok is positioned in the highest point in Antarctica, it sits on 4km if ice and a large lake is concealed beneath it. Environmentalists say: by the year 2050 the ice in Antarctic will begin to melt and sea-levels will rise and by that they imply that some seaports would submerge in a extra meter of sea-level rise, the Netherlands's and London will go too. And you can call Venice, Atlantis from now on. According to this chart the Annual Temperature is Between - 60° and - 50° ("Oh Global Warming", again). Even Summers are between - 40° and - 30° (Scorching Hot). Winters can reach up to - 70° (A Heat Wave). The temperature is getting nowhere and that means there isn't Global Warming hear.
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These changes are raising sea level faster than earlier projected by scientists,
Photo of Sea Level Change:
he 1841 sea level benchmark (centre) on the `Isle of the Dead', Tasmania. According to Antarctic explorer, Capt. Sir James Clark Ross, it marked mean sea level in 1841. Photo taken at low tide 20 Jan 2004. Mark is 50 cm across; tidal range is less than a metre.
AND WE SEE NO CHANGE
What a bunch of morons.
The weather of the world is probably on a 10 thousand year cycle. To think humans are THAT influential seems rediculous.
Is it getting hot in here?
I am here in South East Michigan & we still have 6 inches of white crap still here on the ground!
Global warming, what global warming, I don't see any syinking global warming!
How come when the ice melts in my drink the water level goes down? Shouldn't sea levels be actually dropping as the ice melts?
This is truly alarming! As the result of global warming, soon everything east of Last Chance, Colo. will be under water!
Greenland Ice Cap Is Melting, Raising Sea Level
Source: The Associated Press
Published: Jul 20, 2000 - 04:05 PM Author: By Paul Recer
Posted on 07/20/2000 14:37:50 PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3977712e1941.htm
The sky is falling too!