Posted on 02/25/2005 8:37:51 AM PST by amdgmary
CLEARWATER (FBW)-Michael Schiavo simply wont give up on trying to remove his 41-year-old disabled wifes feeding tube, his attorney said after a court hearing extending a stay in the case until 5 p.m. EST today.
George Felos, the right-to-die attorney representing Schiavo told Florida Baptist Witness his client deeply loves Terri and cares about her despite cohabitating openly with his fiancée, Jodi Centonze, since 1995. The couple now have two children together.
He simply is not gong to walk away from that promise he made to [Terri] when she said, Honey, dont keep me alive like that, said Felos, describing statements made to a guardianship judge after winning a $1.3 million malpractice settlement for his wifes care.
That promise however, is not on the same level with the promise he made when he and Terri exchanged wedding vows in 1986according to Felos who said it is subjective opinion and cruel hearted to think Schiavo walked away from his wedding vows.
I think its hard-hearted to say to somebody whose spouse has Alzheimers, or whose spouse has had some catastrophic accident, that they are consigned to a life of loneliness and then cant form other relationships. Thats a moral judgment and you know, I think people have different views on it.
Calling a romantic affair that results in two children while one is married to another person, forming other relationships is like calling premeditated murder morally problematic, Mitchell said, in response to Felos remarks.
The vow to love another person in the covenant of marriage neither includes violating the covenant through adultery nor withdrawing the the basic necessities of life--like food and water--when maintaining them might allow the spouse to recover, Mitchell continued. In this case, I have to trust the integrity and purity of Terri's parents' inclinations above Mr. Shiavo's.
Documents show Michael and Terris marriage to have been unique in that as a practicing Catholic she received a special dispensation to marry Michael, who is not Catholic, in a marriage mass where they exchanged vows.
In 1990, exactly 15-years-ago, Terri became brain damaged when her heart stopped beating in the family home an her brain was deprived of oxygen. For nearly a decade her familyincluding parents and brother, Bobby, and sister Suzannehas been at odds with Michael over whether Terri can improve. According to her parents and others close to the case, she has been kept mostly isolatedand all attempts to rehabilitate were ordered stopped by Michael.
Terris adherence to her faith remains a matter before the courts. Last year, an attorney for her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, asked Judge George W. Greer to reconsider his February 2000 order authorizing the removal of her feeding tube in light of a statement made by the Pope against removing food and hydration in cases similar to Terris.
And though Terri attended girls-only private Catholic schools through high school, as well as regularly attending mass with her parents before her collapse, the court has so far failed to indicate they will recognize what could potentially be moral decisions consistent with the views of her faith, rather than those of her husband.
Tom Brodersen, husband of Pat Anderson, a former attorney for the Schindler family, told Florida Baptist Witness he believes the result of Michaels pursuit of Terris death and his encasement of her in a hospice where people are sent to die, has left her lonely and without stimulation.
She married the man for love and she lay there all alone while Michael took his love down the street and lavished it on another woman, Brodersen said. Somebody younger who wasnt disabled.
Brodersen, who has degrees in speech pathology and law, was on the short visitors list for a period of time after his wife took the case in 2001. After introducing himself to Terri by leading a trio with her parents, singing, Those were the Days, Brodersen said the normally shy Terri appeared to accept him as one of the family and did not ignore him as she does people she is not familiar with.
I was struck by how lonely Terri is, Brodersen said. She is shockingly lonesome.
Brodersen said he was not allowed to continue to visit with Terri after a mix-up in visitation occurred over two years ago, but recalls putting to use his knowledge of speech training and broadcasting during his visitseven getting her to clearly articulate a pattern of yes and no type communication.
I had started out kind of trying to replicate some of the things done before, Brodersen recounted, like trying to get Terri, who is said to be functionally blind, to move her eyes in different ways. That didnt seem to be one of Terris strengths, however.
But she had really good vocal control, Brodersen said.
It didnt take him long to help Terri develop a moan that would be long and drawn out and a moan that would start and stop. One long moan for yes and two for no he said.
I started out trying to have her hold a moan like she would hold it when singing, Brodersen recalled. You have a beautiful voice, I told her, to encourage rather than discourage. With a little prompting she would hold the note.
Brodersen said he was impressed, though admitted the court had dismissed earlier videos and reports of Terris articulation as pure reflex.
Some doctors have said Terri is in a Persistent Vegetative State and has no awareness of her surroundings. Brodersen disagreed. He said Terri learned quickly and responded to two questions he posed to her on the last day he visited. He asked Terri if she was ten feet tall and if the color of her skin was purple. For the first answer, he said she moaned twice.
I was delighted because obviously she understood the instructions and did her best to follow them and had the cognition to form a correct response to that question, sai Brodersen. So it was a context appropriate answer.
In a somewhat repetitive sense, Brodersen said he again explained the process to her, with both her mother and father in the room.
I asked Terri are you purple and she furrowed her brow like she was concentrating really hard and spontaneously she whispered the word, no.
Later that same day, Brodersen said Terri again said no when she was asked if she was thirsty and he came to the conclusion that working on a system of repetitive moans was probably unnecessary and so he begin to work on a helping her to say yeah for yes since she had already said no.
Other instances where Terri appeared to recognize music and even be inspired by a Gregorian chant convinced Brodersen that Terri could not be considered unfeeling or simply put, a vegetable, he said.
I guarantee you unless she was drugged or under the weather, if her dad called me and held the phone to her ear, Terri would give that telephone her fullest attention and laugh, Brodersen said. Terri Schiavo is a friend of mine and it really is that simple.
A decision is expected from Judge George W. Greer today on an emergency stay that will prevent Michael Schiavo from removing his wifes feeding tube while motions and appeals in the case continue.
Supporters plan vigils at the Woodside Hospice in Pinellas Park and a protest is planned outside the office of attorney George Felos, in Dunedin.
Focus on the Family founder and chairman Dr. James C. Dobson issued the following statement Wednesday after Florida Circuit Judge George Greer issued a stay preventing the removal of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube for two more days:
The same judge who may eventually sign Terri Schiavo's death warrant today issued a temporary reprieve allowing her feeding tube to stay in place for at least two more days. This decision is not overly comforting, however, as Florida Circuit Judge George Greer has consistently proven himself to be no friend of Terri Schiavo, her family or of human life when you consider his history of rulings in this case. Thankfully, he has today seen fit to give her more time to live and her parents more time to defend her right to life.
The courts, including Judge Greer's, have no moral authority to cause a vulnerable, disabled person like Mrs. Schiavo to die due to dehydration - which will be the result if her feeding tube is removed. Today a crisis has been averted, but only for 48 hours. Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is to be applauded for his promise to defend Mrs. Schiavos life. We pray that he, and those who stand with him, will be successful.
It has also been reported that in recent statements on Vatican Radio, Cardinal Renato Martino, president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, said: "If Mr. Schiavo succeeds legally in causing the death of his wife, this not only would be tragic in itself, but would be a grave step toward the legal approval of euthanasia in the United States. No one can be the arbiter of life except God Himself.
Dominique, a native of Poland, sits in protest outside of Woodside Hospice in Pinellas Park Feb. 23 in support of Terri Schiavo. Disabled from birth, the woman lives nearby the hospice and said she feels compelled to sit and red scripture in silent protest up to six hours a day. This should not happen, she said, gesturing to the nicely landscaped facility where Terri has lived for several years. Euthanasia is so bad.
Outside of the Woodside Hospice on Wednesday, Dominique, who declined to give her last name, said indeed America is in danger of becoming like her native Poland, where she said euthanasia has gained a strong following.
Declaring that euthanasia is bad, the disabled woman balanced a sign on her electric wheelchair while reading her Bible.
Its terrible. This should not happen, she said in accented English. [Terris] a human being and shes created by God and only God can take her when it is right.
Speaking of the biblical teaching about how the poor, the widows and the downtrodden are to be taken care ofDominique said God will show mercy in the same way mercy is extended to others.
God knows when it is time for Terri to come home.
Calling this a "right to die" case is absurd-it's a "right to kill" case.
Ping. Attorney George Felos defends Michael Schiavo's adulterous relationship with Jodi Centonze.
Of course if he had divorced Terri, he would no longer be able to make decisions for her!
Not to mention the 2 million dollars
Geez, I hope that if something happens to me like this that my DH doesn't try and kill me and doesn't go and get another family, I know I wouldn't. I take my vows seriously!
We all know where he comes from.
Now we have made a lot of "progress" and such husbands are no longer restrained by government force, common decency, morality (can Black Elk use that word in public????). Instead of being husbands in the conventional sense, they husband the medical malpractice millions, find a cause-oriented lawyer to help propagandize and assist in the effort to get court permission for murder and, meanwhile, Terri's husband lives with his live-in lover by whom he has fathered (in the physical sense) two children. The live-in is apparently smart enough not to agree yet to marriage lest she wind up like Terri.
Michael Schiavo and his ilk ought to be socially shunned by any and all sensible women. If any find him irrestible, they should resist marrying him and designate a pro-lifer without financial interest as attorney-in-fact in a "living will" and in a durable medical power-of-attorney.
When can we have our civilization back??????
I think what bothers me is more the fact that he's trying like crazy to make his former wife DEAD.
If he would have just divorced Terry and gotten a fricking life already, none of us would even be talking about this.
Actually, this points to one thing I don't quite understand: The whole reason this is even a legal issue is that, as Terry's husband, he has "guardianship" over her, and this gives him some kind of legal status to speak on her behalf, to say things like "she wants to be dead". Correct?
But so why the heck doesn't the affair and kids with another woman cast his guardianship into question? Why doesn't it disqualify him? Why doesn't it represent a conflict of interest?
For that matter, he's a guardian who is vigorously arguing that he ought to be allowed to dehydrate and starve to death the person in his custody. Why isn't that considered abuse of a form that disqualifies him from being her guardian? If I were to go to court and make arguments that I should be allowed to starve/dehydrate my kid, or you yours, our kids would be taken away and placed in other care.
My solution in this case would be to remove him as her guardian as being a prima facie threat to her safety, and place her in the care of some other willing/able guardian. Her parents, for example.
Simple.
So what am I missing?
Dan
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What are you missing? He wants BOTH the other woman and Terri's money.
MICHAEL SCHIAVO should be categorized as a person of interest in the DCF hush hush investigation. There are other persons of interest of course; judge, lawyers, Hospice, law enforcement. THIS IS A MAJOR DISCRIMINATION CASE. MAJOR. Greer is over if he rules today for the tube to come out. So over in Pinellas County. IMPEACHMENT PETITIONS ARE BEING SIGNED AT A NICE CLIP. The Florida House is charged with impeachment duties. There is PROBABLE CAUSE TO impeach one of the judges in this mangling of a human being's liberties.
Awww, he is turning his attempt to murder his wife and having children while married into a selfless act. How wonderful of him. *rolls eyes*
George Felos, defending the indefensible ...
From my perspective, I don't see law enforcement as someone to run to if I'm in danger. THEY HAVE BEEN INDOCTRINATED to the left wing agenda that Terri's a vegetable and that we are all right wing religious nuts. They LAUGH AT TERRI AT ROTARY LUNCHEONS IN CLEARWATER FLORIDA. That's your police dept. in Clearwater and Pinellas Park, Fl.
The last time we were faced with a court decision, wasn't it overheard that courthouse staff were taking bets on whether or not Terri's tube would be removed?
Personal friends with Felos? or? Not sure if I understand your response.
Hasn't there ever been a guardian or representative appointed for Terry by the courts? Maybe I missed it. But in many other contexts the courts appoint someone specifically to protect the interests of someone like her. Among other things, this has become a tug of war between the parents and the husband. Without knowing many details, I have a very low opinion of him.
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