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China: Execution of Tibetan Prisoners (photos, warning: gruesome)
Kyunghyang Daily ^ | 01/27/05 | N/A

Posted on 02/25/2005 4:20:40 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Edited on 02/25/2005 6:22:12 AM PST by Lead Moderator. [history]



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: banglist; china; execution; freshorgans4sale; humanright; oppression; redchina; tibet; walmartsupplier
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To: Dr. Marten
Unless your translating that into the old Wade-Giles form of pinyin, you missed those first two characters. It should be Lu Jin Feng as the girls name.

I think it was the Cantonese slipping in on me, rather than using Mandarin!

Also, I got the "Lung" from the "Lung" of "Keelung" City, (pronounced 'chilung',) north of Taipei on Taiwan.

At any rate, would a "Tibetan" have such an ethnic Han (appearing) name? I wonder. Thanks for clearing up the family name for me; I appreciate all of us adding information and trying to determine what the hell happened there on that day and who those executed were and for what reason they were shot down.

321 posted on 03/08/2005 7:54:37 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; All

The question I have is if these people were just criminals why have half the chinese army there for 4-5 people? Where there thousands of dissendents killed that day perhaps??

If these were just criminals than why do you see no police??????????


322 posted on 03/08/2005 4:05:25 PM PST by superiorslots
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To: superiorslots

It might have been a show of strength, to give political education to the troops, to not side with local sensititivies. Further, the police may have turned the condemned over to the Chinese PLA. PLA is known to execute. What can/should be determined is if there are any police uniforms in that photograph. The executed look like they were pulled right off the street, considering the clothes they are wearing, etc. Very odd. This could all be cleared up if we could find out WHERE and WHEN and by WHOM and OF WHOM these photos were taken. The Korean website does not give any details unfortunately.


323 posted on 03/08/2005 4:44:45 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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To: Dr. Marten
Can you get the reading of that first Chinese character on the big PLA truck, read left to right?<> It is the "person" radical ('ren') and combined with, on the right side 'fire', but I cannot find that Chinese character anywhere.

Of course the second character or "group" (dan). Any help would be appreciated.

324 posted on 03/08/2005 4:54:46 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I googled her name on htt://www.google.com.cn ,but nothing came up and I didn't expect it would.

As for the writing on the truck, it just says that they are a gang of criminals.

It wouldn't be too uncomon for a Tibetan girl to have a Chinese name, depending on where she lived. Chinese have a habit of giving everyone and everything a Chinese name according to the phonetic pronunciation. However, the girl in the photo does not even remotely look Tibetan.


325 posted on 03/08/2005 9:53:28 PM PST by Dr. Marten (gei wo ziyou, haishi gei wo si wan!)
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To: BJungNan

Have you seen this?


326 posted on 03/11/2005 12:50:43 PM PST by PeterFinn ("Tolerance" means WE have to tolerate THEM. They can hate us all they want.)
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To: PeterFinn

Yes, I've seen it several times. Thanks for the heads up though.

FReep Regards,
BJN


327 posted on 03/11/2005 12:57:10 PM PST by BJungNan (Have a look at GoGov.com)
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To: sukhoi-30mki; Cronos

Here is why I'd rather see Nepal with India than those dirty, evil bastards from China.


328 posted on 03/11/2005 12:59:13 PM PST by PeterFinn ("Tolerance" means WE have to tolerate THEM. They can hate us all they want.)
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To: captnorb

WALMART KILLED THESE WOMEN by supporting this vicious regime!

I personally boycott WalMart and I encourage anyone else who doesn't support murder to boycott WalMart and stop buying Chinese crap.

Remember that Taiwan is NOT the same as Communist China.


329 posted on 03/11/2005 1:05:36 PM PST by PeterFinn ("Tolerance" means WE have to tolerate THEM. They can hate us all they want.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

If these bastards invade Taiwan we should nuke their asses off. Period.


330 posted on 03/11/2005 1:27:00 PM PST by fish hawk
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To: TigerLikesRooster

More brave IslamoCommie terrorists doing their dirty deeds to women no less...the Redcomms will get what they deserve someday. I hope sooner rather than later...


331 posted on 03/11/2005 1:30:04 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: ApesForEvolution

BOOKMARK BTTT


332 posted on 03/11/2005 1:32:06 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I have taken some chinese course before, and thanks to this albeit limited but very useful knowledge, my input on this topic may be of some use to you guys/gals.

First of all, these young females are highly unlikely to be of Tibetan descents. Their facial structures are very typical of northern China origin. Lu Jin Feng is definitely a Han chinese name, Tibetans have markedly different names to Han people. The location of execution doesn't resemble the Tibet Plateau either, it can be any part of northern China.

The words around the girl's neck say, as many people have already translated them: intentional murder(premeditated murder). The banner on the truck says: crime syndicate.

There is no sign what-so-ever the execution is politically motivated. It's beyond me why people can claim this girl in photo is a dissident, let alone a Tibetan dissident. Even the exiled Tibetans have never claimed her as one of their own(post these pics on any oversea tibetan websites and ask them about the girl).

As far as my knowledge goes, China almost never execute its political dissidents now(Please take notice of the emphasis on "now"). Yes, they will be roughed up by authority from time to time. But execution? Almost non-existent(I could be wrong though).

Plus, I've done some rearches on these pics, here are some extra photos I've found from mainland chinese websites:

From what I can read, chinese have expressed their horrors at the gore and graphic nature of these pics, but at the same time, they are generally cool with the girl's execution.

My two cents: these young women/girls are more likely than not just common criminals. For all the outrages, condemnations and disgusts for the CCCP, the accusation is likely to be unfounded.

333 posted on 03/12/2005 1:59:24 PM PST by Pussy_Cat
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To: TigerLikesRooster

So typical of the Chinese men to murder the women first.


334 posted on 03/13/2005 4:55:12 PM PST by muawiyah (gonna' be like with the anthrax thing ~ find a guy, harass him, let the terrorists escape)
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To: Pussy_Cat
"the CCCP"

Sovietski, New_Cat? Nyet.

Looks remarkably like the PLC to me...

335 posted on 03/13/2005 5:33:52 PM PST by StAnDeliver
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To: StAnDeliver

Are you posting in french or some other languages? I have no idea what you are talking about.


336 posted on 03/13/2005 7:52:38 PM PST by Pussy_Cat
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To: TigerLikesRooster

BTTT


337 posted on 03/14/2005 4:39:28 PM PST by PeterFinn ("Tolerance" means WE have to tolerate THEM. They can hate us all they want.)
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To: All


THIS PHOTO IS NOT exeuction of Tibetans.

The words on her shirt says: "INTENTIONAL MURDER", the same as a capital murder charge in the US.

Also, her NAME is a CHINESE name, a Han Chinese name, not a Tibetan name.

Looks like you guys are falling into a fake propaganda photo. It's a photo of execution of murderers.


338 posted on 03/25/2005 8:12:06 AM PST by pganini
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BTW, in China, the uniforms of cops and PLA look almost the same. I can't tell the difference. They are most likely police officers.

Dissidents in China, those that protest peacefully, are usually LOCKED up (and whether they languish and die in prison is a different topic) and not executed.

BTW, if these were execution of Tibetans on non-violent protests, we would have seen them broadcasted in the US again and again.

China would execute criminals for:

Bribery/Corruption
Drug Trafficking
Murder
Rape (not recently but at least in the past they have)
Child molestation (a guy that molested 100+ school age girls, he was a teacher and was executed)

Now, whether all th epeople executed are really guilty is another matter -- sentences are carried out in the AFTERNOON that the appeal is rejected by the highest court. There is no languishing 15 years in prison like Scott Peterson is likely to do in California, it's immediate.


339 posted on 03/25/2005 8:20:27 AM PST by pganini
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BTW, in China, the uniforms of cops and PLA look almost the same. I can't tell the difference. They are most likely police officers.

Dissidents in China, those that protest peacefully, are usually LOCKED up (and whether they languish and die in prison is a different topic) and not executed.

BTW, if these were execution of Tibetans on non-violent protests, we would have seen them broadcasted in the US again and again.

China would execute criminals for:

Bribery/Corruption
Drug Trafficking
Murder
Rape (not recently but at least in the past they have)
Child molestation (a guy that molested 100+ school age girls, he was a teacher and was executed)

Now, whether all th epeople executed are really guilty is another matter -- sentences are carried out in the AFTERNOON that the appeal is rejected by the highest court. There is no languishing 15 years in prison like Scott Peterson is likely to do in California, it's immediate.


340 posted on 03/25/2005 8:20:59 AM PST by pganini
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